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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show 200: Pediatric Perspectives: Focusing on Chronic Disease with Liz Mumper, M.D.

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    What's driving the dramatic rise in chronic childhood illness — and what can parents do about it?

    Dr. Paul Thomas and Liz Mumper, M.D. in conversation on Pediatric Perspectives, Show 200 of With the Wind with Dr. Paul, discussing chronic childhood illness, environmental toxins, and informed decision-making for families.

    In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined by Liz Mumper, M.D. — a pediatrician with 45 years of clinical experience, founder of the Rimland Center for Integrative Medicine, and a leading trainer of clinicians who work with children with special needs through MAPS Medical Academy and Pediatric Special Needs. Dr. Mumper is also the author of Kids and COVID: Costly Mistakes That Must Never Happen Again. She is one of the physicians I most respect in this field, and this conversation is one I've wanted to have for a long time.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • How the landscape of pediatrics has shifted over four decades — from acute, treatable illness to pervasive chronic disease
    • The dramatic rise in autism, type 1 and type 2 diabetes, obesity, eczema, asthma, and autoimmune conditions — and the contributing factors both physicians have observed in practice
    • What parents planning to have children can do to prepare — including nutrition, toxin reduction, and key supplementation benchmarks
    • Clinical concerns about vaccine administration during pregnancy and infancy, including the aluminum load when multiple vaccines are given simultaneously
    • What Dr. Mumper observed in the unvaccinated siblings of children with vaccine-related health changes in her practice
    • Practical steps for reducing environmental toxin exposure in the home, and why acetaminophen deserves more caution than it typically receives
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show 199: Pediatric Perspectives: Risking Everything with Suzanne Humphries, M.D.

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    ​What does it cost a physician to tell the truth — and what does the evidence actually show about vaccine safety, immune health, and children who have never been vaccinated?

    Dr. Paul Thomas and Suzanne Humphries, M.D. in conversation on Pediatric Perspectives, Show 199 of With the Wind with Dr. Paul, discussing vaccine safety, unvaccinated children's health, and immune function.
    In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined by Suzanne Humphries, M.D. — board-certified internist and nephrologist, and co-author of Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History. Dr. Humphries has spent years studying vaccine history, immunology, and the clinical record, and like me, she's made professional choices that have come at a cost. This is one of the most substantive conversations I've had on this show.
    In this episode, we cover:
    • What Dr. Humphries witnessed firsthand on the Vaxxed bus tour — and why it changed her perspective on childhood vaccine injury
    • Why she has largely stopped trying to reach skeptical colleagues, and what she believes actually works instead
    • What the health of unvaccinated children actually looks like — and why "normal" is the right word
    • The vaccine schedule examined one by one: which she considers biologically indefensible, which present genuine complexity, and why
    • What foundational health actually requires, from a nephrologist's perspective

    ​What She Saw — and Couldn't Unsee

    Dr. Humphries joined the Vaxxed bus tour at the end of 2016. She had no involvement in the film or the founding of the initiative — that grew out of Polly's personal story. What she encountered on the bus were families showing videos of healthy, engaged children, and then the shots, and then a child who was no longer there in the same way. Marriages that didn't survive. Grandparents following grown boys they had minimum control over. She eventually had to step outside and stand with the families waiting in line rather than stay inside for the interviews.
    I have sat across from enough of those families in my own practice — three to five new ones a week for years — to understand exactly what she means. You cannot unsee what you see.

    ​​On the Vaccine Schedule

    Dr. Humphries worked through the schedule directly, and I want to represent what she said accurately:
    She calls for ending all pregnancy vaccines outright, hepatitis B at birth, flu shots, and Covid shots — none of which, she argues, produce meaningful herd or personal immunity. She describes the mumps vaccine as one that should never have been created, noting that Merck has faced serious accusations of falsifying its efficacy studies. The tetanus vaccine, she says, should be elective and age-appropriate — not given to newborns or infants. Gardasil/HPV vaccines she wants stopped immediately, citing a significant injury profile she has observed. On pertussis, she explains the IgG4 mechanism: repeated vaccination produces immune tolerance, which is why we see so much pertussis circulating in older vaccinated children and adults. Measles she acknowledges as the most complicated case — vaccination has disrupted the natural maternal immunity that previously protected infants through the placenta and breast milk, and the generation with genuine immune memory is aging out. She views that as a problem created by the program, not a justification for continuing it.
    "The non-vaccinated children and infants have an absolute edge on their health… because they're normal. That's what it's supposed to look like." — Suzanne Humphries, M.D.

    Where Health Actually Comes From

    ​I also asked about something I've observed over the course of my career: the apparent rise in childhood cancer. Dr. Humphries was careful not to overstate what the data shows — she acknowledged she can't offer precise statistics — but drew on something she witnessed directly: when she was leaving Bangor, Maine, a large, well-funded children's cancer institute had just opened that wasn't there at the start of her career. Her concern is that vaccine ingredients including animal DNA, viruses, and retroviruses — many not fully characterized — may interact with immune function in ways that demand better research. The vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies, she believes, would bring these patterns into clearer focus.
    ​Drawing on her nephrology background, Dr. Humphries is direct about where foundational health actually comes from: good nutrition, adequate hydration, sunlight, and minimal pharmaceutical intervention. Hydration in particular — most people are chronically dehydrated, and the mineral and electrical balance the immune system depends on requires it. These are not radical ideas. They are basics that a medical culture organized around intervention has largely displaced.
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul – Show 198: Pediatric Perspectives: Vaccine Zealotry: Don’t Fear Disease with Suzanne Humphries, M.D.

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    ​A physician’s firsthand account of hospital vaccine protocols, medical ethics, and the importance of informed inquiry in pediatric and inpatient care.

    Dr. Paul Thomas and Suzanne Humphries, M.D. in conversation during With the Wind with Dr. Paul, discussing pediatric health, vaccine policy, and medical ethics.
    ​In this episode of With the Wind with Dr. Paul, Paul Thomas, M.D. is joined by Suzanne Humphries, M.D. for a detailed discussion on institutional medicine, vaccine policy, and how standardized protocols can override individualized clinical judgment.
    ​Dr. Humphries, a former hospital-based internist and nephrologist, explains how her questions about vaccination practices emerged not from ideology, but from years of direct clinical experience. As she recounts, her concerns developed gradually as she observed how policy-driven systems increasingly replaced physician discretion in inpatient care.
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show 197: Pediatric Perspectives: Parent's Questions & Pediatrician's Answers with DeeDee Hoover

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    Understanding Why Viral Illness Lasts Longer and When Antibiotics Are Actually Needed

    Dr. Paul Thomas and DeeDee Hoover in conversation discussing pediatric health questions during a recorded episode of With the Wind with Dr. Paul, addressing why viral infections persist and when antibiotics are necessary for children.
    Parents across the Kids First 4Ever community have been asking the same questions this winter: Why do colds and flus seem to last for weeks? Can my child catch another infection while recovering from one? And when my pediatrician offers antibiotics, is that really necessary?
    ​In this episode of With the Wind with Dr. Paul, DeeDee Hoover (J.A.M. — Just a Mom) steps into the host role to ask Dr. Paul the most frequently submitted parent questions from across multiple Kids First 4Ever platforms. The result is a practical, education-focused conversation that addresses the real concerns families are navigating right now—grounded in clinical experience and real-world observation.
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul – Show 196: Pediatric Perspectives: Costly Mistakes: Kids and COVID with Liz Mumper, M.D.

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    What the Pandemic Revealed About Pediatric Risk, Informed Consent, and Decision-Making for Children

    Dr. Paul Thomas with guest Liz Mumper, M.D., featured in With the Wind with Dr. Paul Show 196: Pediatric Perspectives--Costly Mistakes: Kids and COVID.
    When COVID-19 emerged, families were inundated with information that often failed to clearly distinguish between adult and pediatric risk. In this episode of With the Wind, Paul Thomas, M.D., examines how children were affected by COVID-19 and how medical decision-making for minors unfolded during the pandemic.
    The discussion centers on a core principle of pediatrics: children are not small adults. Pediatric care requires age-specific risk assessment, careful interpretation of data, and a clear understanding of how medical decisions may affect developing bodies over time.
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul – Show 195: Pediatric Perspectives: The Religion of Vaccines with Aaron Siri, Esq.

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    A Legal and Scientific Examination of Belief, Data, and Accountability

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    ​In this compelling episode of With the Wind, Dr. Paul is joined by attorney Aaron Siri, Esq. for a deep exploration of vaccine safety, scientific transparency, and legal accountability. Drawing from sworn testimony, FDA documents, and decades of regulatory history, this conversation challenges long-held assumptions about how vaccines are tested, regulated, and defended in public discourse.
    ​Aaron Siri brings a rare legal lens to pediatric healthcare—one grounded not in theory, but in court records, depositions, and federal filings. As a civil rights and vaccine litigation attorney, Siri has spent years examining what the data actually show versus what the public is told.