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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show #204: Pediatric Perspectives: How GMOs Impact Health with Michelle Perro, M.D.

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    What parents need to know about genetically modified foods, hidden labeling, and the practical steps every family can take to protect their health.

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    In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined by Michelle Perro, M.D. — integrative pediatrician, environmental medicine specialist, and CEO and founder of GMO Science — for a detailed look at how genetically modified organisms have reshaped the American food supply and what families can do to protect themselves. Dr. Perro began researching the intersection of GMOs, pesticides, and children's health in the early 2000s, and this conversation reflects more than two decades of that clinical work.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • The history of GMO science and the suppression of early research showing harm to animal health
    • How genetic modification differs from traditional hybridization — and which crops are most affected
    • Why most Americans still don't know what's in their food, and what the 2016 Dark Act did to labeling
    • Apeel produce coatings, microbiome disruption, and the looming threats of geoengineering and mRNA vaccines in plants
    • How to shop organic, filter water, and support the body's natural detox processes
    • Dr. Perro's message of hope: grounding in nature as medicine for the whole family
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show 203 — Pediatric Perspectives: Children's Health Updates with Peter McCullough, M.D.

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    What does one of the world's most published cardiologists say when he turns his full attention to the childhood vaccine schedule — and what's actually driving the national conversation right now?

    Dr. Paul Thomas and Peter McCullough, M.D. on Pediatric Perspectives, Show 203 of With the Wind, discussing children's health updates and vaccine schedule concerns on CHD TV.

    Dr. Paul Thomas sits down with Peter McCullough, M.D. — internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist, and author of the new book Vaccines, Mythology, Ideology and Reality — for one of the most substantive children's health conversations this show has hosted. Dr. McCullough has published over a thousand peer-reviewed articles, established the first life-saving treatment protocol for SARS-CoV-2, and has spent years leading the McCullough Foundation's systematic review of the vaccination literature. This is that conversation.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • Dr. McCullough's personal vaccination history — including receiving 69 vaccines over his lifetime — and how it shaped his evolving thinking on the schedule
    • The biological mechanisms of concern: how cytokines triggered by combination vaccination cross into the developing brain, and what the research shows about aluminum adjuvants
    • Autism spectrum disorder at 1 in 31 children: the causality criteria, the Hannah Poling case, and what hundreds of studies now suggest about risk
    • Vaccination during pregnancy, premature delivery, and apnea in hospitalized newborns — including a recent JAMA randomized trial
    • The latest ACIP changes under the new committee and what they actually mean for parents
    • Why a recent JAMA report found only 40% of parents plan to follow the routine schedule — and what Dr. McCullough says about that shift
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show 202: Pediatric Perspectives: Weight Loss Drugs for Kids with Michelle Perro, M.D.

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    What every parent should understand before considering GLP-1 weight loss drugs for their child — and what the evidence points to instead.

    Dr. Paul Thomas and Michelle Perro, M.D. on Pediatric Perspectives Show 202, weight loss drugs for children.

    In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined by integrative pediatrician Michelle Perro, M.D. — a clinician with 43 years of experience, an environmental medicine specialist, and the CEO and founder of GMO Science. Dr. Perro has spent decades studying how food, pesticides, and environmental toxicants affect children's health, and in this conversation she brings that perspective directly to bear on one of the most pressing issues in pediatrics today: childhood obesity and the growing push to treat it with GLP-1 agonist drugs.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • The scale of childhood obesity in the U.S. — and why Dr. Perro believes ultra-processed foods, GMOs, and pesticides are the primary drivers, not simply lifestyle choices
    • What GLP-1 hormones are and how GLP-1 agonist drugs work — and why they look promising on paper but raise serious questions when used in children who are still growing
    • The specific concerns Dr. Perro has identified: no long-term pediatric data, significant muscle loss, full weight rebound upon stopping, and side effects including gastroparesis, pancreatitis, and a black box warning for depression and suicidal ideation
    • Why every class of pesticide she has reviewed functions as an endocrine disruptor — and what that has to do with the obesity epidemic
    • Practical steps families can take right now, including how to shop, how to cook, and how to support children's microbiomes in ways that sustain healthy weight naturally
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show 201: Pediatric Perspectives: Dangerous Realities of Modern Medicine with Suzanne Humphries, M.D.

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    What does it actually take to manage childhood infections, support a chronically ill child, and build lasting health — without defaulting to pharmaceutical intervention?

    Dr. Paul Thomas and Suzanne Humphries, M.D. discuss foundational health, vitamin C for measles and whooping cough, dietary approaches for autism, and why lasting change starts in the kitchen — not the clinic.

    In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined again by Suzanne Humphries, M.D. — board-certified internist and nephrologist, co-author of Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History, and one of the most thorough medical researchers I know. Following her widely viewed appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience, Dr. Humphries has spent months responding to detailed public critiques of that interview — and in this conversation, we focus on what she has always emphasized most: how to actually support health, especially in children.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • How Dr. Humphries's background in nephrology shaped her understanding of how drugs and environmental inputs affect the body
    • The "blueprint for health" — her foundational framework built on nutrition, hydration, sunlight, and community rather than pharmaceutical management
    • What she has seen work for children with chronic conditions, including autism, enlarged tonsils, and recurrent illness — and why dietary compliance has to be complete and sustained
    • How she managed measles cases during a 2019 outbreak using intravenous and oral vitamin C, including a severely ill 11-year-old
    • Her publicly available whooping cough vitamin C protocol and how it has been used by families around the world
    • Where she places her hope for meaningful change in children's health — and why it isn't in government
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show 200: Pediatric Perspectives: Focusing on Chronic Disease with Liz Mumper, M.D.

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    What's driving the dramatic rise in chronic childhood illness — and what can parents do about it?

    Dr. Paul Thomas and Liz Mumper, M.D. in conversation on Pediatric Perspectives, Show 200 of With the Wind with Dr. Paul, discussing chronic childhood illness, environmental toxins, and informed decision-making for families.

    In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined by Liz Mumper, M.D. — a pediatrician with 45 years of clinical experience, founder of the Rimland Center for Integrative Medicine, and a leading trainer of clinicians who work with children with special needs through MAPS Medical Academy and Pediatric Special Needs. Dr. Mumper is also the author of Kids and COVID: Costly Mistakes That Must Never Happen Again. She is one of the physicians I most respect in this field, and this conversation is one I've wanted to have for a long time.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • How the landscape of pediatrics has shifted over four decades — from acute, treatable illness to pervasive chronic disease
    • The dramatic rise in autism, type 1 and type 2 diabetes, obesity, eczema, asthma, and autoimmune conditions — and the contributing factors both physicians have observed in practice
    • What parents planning to have children can do to prepare — including nutrition, toxin reduction, and key supplementation benchmarks
    • Clinical concerns about vaccine administration during pregnancy and infancy, including the aluminum load when multiple vaccines are given simultaneously
    • What Dr. Mumper observed in the unvaccinated siblings of children with vaccine-related health changes in her practice
    • Practical steps for reducing environmental toxin exposure in the home, and why acetaminophen deserves more caution than it typically receives
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show 199: Pediatric Perspectives: Risking Everything with Suzanne Humphries, M.D.

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    ​What does it cost a physician to tell the truth — and what does the evidence actually show about vaccine safety, immune health, and children who have never been vaccinated?

    Dr. Paul Thomas and Suzanne Humphries, M.D. in conversation on Pediatric Perspectives, Show 199 of With the Wind with Dr. Paul, discussing vaccine safety, unvaccinated children's health, and immune function.
    In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined by Suzanne Humphries, M.D. — board-certified internist and nephrologist, and co-author of Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History. Dr. Humphries has spent years studying vaccine history, immunology, and the clinical record, and like me, she's made professional choices that have come at a cost. This is one of the most substantive conversations I've had on this show.
    In this episode, we cover:
    • What Dr. Humphries witnessed firsthand on the Vaxxed bus tour — and why it changed her perspective on childhood vaccine injury
    • Why she has largely stopped trying to reach skeptical colleagues, and what she believes actually works instead
    • What the health of unvaccinated children actually looks like — and why "normal" is the right word
    • The vaccine schedule examined one by one: which she considers biologically indefensible, which present genuine complexity, and why
    • What foundational health actually requires, from a nephrologist's perspective

    ​What She Saw — and Couldn't Unsee

    Dr. Humphries joined the Vaxxed bus tour at the end of 2016. She had no involvement in the film or the founding of the initiative — that grew out of Polly's personal story. What she encountered on the bus were families showing videos of healthy, engaged children, and then the shots, and then a child who was no longer there in the same way. Marriages that didn't survive. Grandparents following grown boys they had minimum control over. She eventually had to step outside and stand with the families waiting in line rather than stay inside for the interviews.
    I have sat across from enough of those families in my own practice — three to five new ones a week for years — to understand exactly what she means. You cannot unsee what you see.

    ​​On the Vaccine Schedule

    Dr. Humphries worked through the schedule directly, and I want to represent what she said accurately:
    She calls for ending all pregnancy vaccines outright, hepatitis B at birth, flu shots, and Covid shots — none of which, she argues, produce meaningful herd or personal immunity. She describes the mumps vaccine as one that should never have been created, noting that Merck has faced serious accusations of falsifying its efficacy studies. The tetanus vaccine, she says, should be elective and age-appropriate — not given to newborns or infants. Gardasil/HPV vaccines she wants stopped immediately, citing a significant injury profile she has observed. On pertussis, she explains the IgG4 mechanism: repeated vaccination produces immune tolerance, which is why we see so much pertussis circulating in older vaccinated children and adults. Measles she acknowledges as the most complicated case — vaccination has disrupted the natural maternal immunity that previously protected infants through the placenta and breast milk, and the generation with genuine immune memory is aging out. She views that as a problem created by the program, not a justification for continuing it.
    "The non-vaccinated children and infants have an absolute edge on their health… because they're normal. That's what it's supposed to look like." — Suzanne Humphries, M.D.

    Where Health Actually Comes From

    ​I also asked about something I've observed over the course of my career: the apparent rise in childhood cancer. Dr. Humphries was careful not to overstate what the data shows — she acknowledged she can't offer precise statistics — but drew on something she witnessed directly: when she was leaving Bangor, Maine, a large, well-funded children's cancer institute had just opened that wasn't there at the start of her career. Her concern is that vaccine ingredients including animal DNA, viruses, and retroviruses — many not fully characterized — may interact with immune function in ways that demand better research. The vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies, she believes, would bring these patterns into clearer focus.
    ​Drawing on her nephrology background, Dr. Humphries is direct about where foundational health actually comes from: good nutrition, adequate hydration, sunlight, and minimal pharmaceutical intervention. Hydration in particular — most people are chronically dehydrated, and the mineral and electrical balance the immune system depends on requires it. These are not radical ideas. They are basics that a medical culture organized around intervention has largely displaced.
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