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​Dr. Paul  0:00  
knocked ball Welcome to with the wind science revealed. My guest today is Mickey Willis. He's a human rights activist, investigative filmmaker, and He is respected globally for exposing the corruption at the highest levels. His powerful movies plan demic have been more censored than anything else in history. He's got a call for unity, you're going to see this, we're going to discuss his powerful story of what got him to do what he's doing, and how we, as a people can unite. Enjoy the show.

Dr. Paul, coming to you from the heart. Today, we want to talk about unity, you're going to see a brief seven minute video that Mickey Willis put together that just touched my heart, I had to share it with you. We're living in a world where there's conflict. And we're pitted against one another on just about anything you can think of. I grew up in Africa during the Civil Rights Movement. And there was all this conflict and the way the system would keep us divided, was what really allowed those in power to stay in power. And our movement for freedom today in this country is challenged by that same issue, the propaganda and the division and the infighting that happens. It's so destructive. So those in power those that want to control and dominate the world. Their real fear is that we will come together. And when humanity comes together, it's over, folks, you can't stop us. We just need to claim our freedom, join hands, and be that powerful force for good in the world.

Mikki Willis  1:50  
I've been a human rights activist for almost 20 years. As a documentary filmmaker, I've been on the front lines of many of our nation's biggest scandals and protests. From that perspective, I've been an eyewitness to the rise and fall of numerous people powered movements. Nearly every organized resistance I've been a part of has ended just inches from victory for the same critical mistake in fighting. When members of the same group turn against each other. It often begins with whispers about the most prominent spokespeople of a cause these rumors typically sound like I hear John is controlled opposition or some people are saying Jane is compromised. While the use of infiltrators and agitators is a very real thing. I've yet to experience one scenario where such a label was accurately applied. And suspiciously, these labels are always branded on the people who are making the most progress. But the degradation of the reputation goes their contribution to your life. Prior to social media, people actually sat down to dialogue through their differences. Today, without solid evidence or sufficient inquiry, we go directly to our keyboards to vent our suspicions. Even after the rumor is proven false or simply fades away. Some level of doubt and division always remains. This is all by design. Part of what allowed so many people to walk away from Assange with some of the meat to allegations that had surfaced and that were ultimately discredited, stuck in people's minds. The voice is a propaganda are masterful at this game, they knowingly run a false story, then retracted knowing the lie will reach millions are very few will see the correction. Amy Coney Barrett's religious faith has been called into question again. She belongs to the people of praise a group, which the Southern Poverty Law Center has labeled them a hate group. When I say that people of praise had been deemed a hate group. I just got them mixed up with another group, I conflated them. Okay, it happens you know, it's easy to do.

In the words of former CIA director William Casey will know their disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false. The planting of divisive rumors is one of the most common tactics used in psychological warfare as the lies balloon like worker bees, well intended citizens pollinate the masses with poisonous disinformation. What the gossiping bees fail to realize is that they themselves are doing the work of controlled opposition. They are literally unwittingly working on behalf of the very forces they believe they are resisting. Again, all of this is by design. While we've all been distracted by the latest trends and tragedies, everything that has influence on our behavior has been infiltrated by an agenda to control our thoughts. Whether their goal is to make us purchase a product, vote for a political party or submit to experimental inoculations. There are forces at work who understand the functionalities of your mind far better than you do. Their goal is total control. But because they are the few and we are the many, they can only achieve total control to the age old tactic of divide and conquer. You're either with them or with us. Never before have we been so divided divided politics, religion, nation, state, race, class, gender and now, vaccine status. To better understand how we got here, consider these three quotes from The Art of War by Sun Tzu. The Supreme Art of War is to subdue the enemy without fighting. Victorious Warriors win first and then go to war. The secret lies and confusing the enemy so that he cannot fathom our real intent. Those sons who lived over 2500 years ago, his work remains at the heart of our CIA, as well as the Chinese Communist Party's strategy today. It's no coincidence that around the same era as Sun Tzu, The words united we stand, divided we fall, we're first recorded. It is unity that will save our communities.

Unknown Speaker  5:45  
As you see in the audience, Muslims, Christians, the Jewish community, Democrats, Republicans, white, black, everyone, all in between. This is the example of what you get when you choose to attack all members of the human family.

Mikki Willis  5:58  
Our greatest power is our numbers. Hence, the relentless effort to shatter us into broken fragments. As their agendas are being exposed, the dividers will stop at nothing to cover their crimes against humanity. They have bonkers. All we have is each other. The good news is, that's all we need.

Though we are intrinsically interconnected, our minds are being wired to obsess on our differences. Contrary to social indoctrination, we do not have to be ideologically aligned to stand together. We don't even have to like each other. There is only one thing that we must agree on. The freedom is our birthright. Now's the time to let go of whatever it is you're holding on to that keeps you divided from your friends, family and fellow humans. Rise Above all the micro dramas and distractions to see that a much bigger story is unfolding. Swallow your pride, humble yourself. Let it go. I'm not suggesting that we look the other way when someone is clearly thwarting our forward momentum. There are people who deserve to be called out by name, especially those who are undermining our trust in each other. But even then, we should remember that there is a human life being affected by our words. We've been so conditioned to believe we are powerless, that we become careless with our power. Like toddlers with loaded guns. How many times do we need to shoot our own foot we realized the power is in our hands. The only thing that can stop us at this point is us. We've all been lied to scammed fooled, tricked, conned and coerced? Yes, it sucks. But here we are wiser and stronger than we were just three years ago. This is the moment for us to activate our innate ability to create solutions that can only happen for the awareness of symbiosis defined as a mutually beneficial relationship between different groups. All of life depends on relationships. Every living thing is in communication. From the Stars, to the planets, the Earth, the plants, the elements, the insects, the animals, the humans and every cell within us. Real change out there begins with real change inside. The question is, How bad does it have to get before we're willing to change?

Dr. Paul  8:38  
Welcome Mickey Willis, it's nice to have you on. Oh, I was about to say against the wind we just shifted our name to with the wind science revealed. It's great to have you back on the show. Thank you for and it's great to see you. You know, while I was busy being a pediatrician, for the last 35 years, you've been very active human rights. for over 20 years, a best selling author and investigative filmmaker. You're exposing corruption at the highest levels. Your movie pandemic is the most censored documentary in history I was reading. It's like, wow, that means you've done something right.

Mikki Willis  9:14  
Thank you so much. Yeah, yeah.

Dr. Paul  9:16  
So you know, I watched your video a call for unity. And that just wow, that touched my heart. Powerful, powerful message. So But before we dive into that, I want our viewers and I need to be reminded. Tell us about your childhood. And what was it in your background that prepared you for this role that you have in society and in our world?

Mikki Willis  9:36  
Well raised by a single mom had four kids on our own, raised on welfare pretty poor. And then in my early 20s, I watched my brother struggle with AIDS for about eight years before he finally was killed by Anthony Fauci, AZT and 34 days later, my mom died of bad cancer treatments. Wow. So that was really the The my first week awakening, you know, there's been several on the path. But that was my first big awakening for me to it really inspired me to start questioning life and looking deeper at what really mattered. And and so I would say that was that was the real catalyst. You know, I had another experience I was at the World Trade Center and 2001 when it was attacked, and that was really a snap to grid for me. And that's what had me leave Hollywood. But it was really the medical stuff with my loved ones that I think it was the stuff that was a catalyst for the work I'm doing now.

Dr. Paul  10:34  
Wow. So you said leave Hollywood, you are in mainstream media Hollywood doing what?

Mikki Willis  10:40  
Oh, yeah. Living living the dream or the nightmare I should say. You know, it's, it's, it's quite a thing, Hollywood, there's so many people are attracted to it. And it's the goal for so many people. And it was for me at 19 years old, I packed up a U haul truck and moved on my own and lived in a little hotel for a little while that next to the Magic Castle in Hollywood. It was actually a magic hotel. And it was anything but magic. And, and then did my did my best to struggle through the maze of Hollywood and model for a short period. And that was the first time I ever got to travel. And so I got to go overseas and see the rest of the world which was also a wake up for me to see how the rest of the world lived, which was an eye opener. And, and then I started acting and I I fell in love with behind the scenes really fast. I lasted I had a little reoccurring part on Days of Our Lives and had a few bit roles here and there. And but I was you know, I was the actor. That was Washington what the camera crew was doing, you know, that's what I wanted to do. And so as soon as I could I actually built a theater and started teaching acting, and, and which, which really led to writing and directing for theater and, and that's when that's where I cut my teeth. And then and then I started directing in the heyday of infomercials, I started directing infomercials. And it's really funny because my kids and I just finished watching an incredible series called 1883, which is a Western, and it is the most powerful television that I've ever seen in my life. I think 10 episodes, but the executive producer of that I recognize the name and I realized, oh, that's the guy that gave him my start, same guy who produced that series. So he was he was doing infomercials at the time. He's moved on to bigger, better things, too.

Dr. Paul  12:39  
So when you broke out on your own, what was your first project?

Mikki Willis  12:45  
First project was a little movie called shoeshine boys, which we later renamed to prank. And it was a little micro budget, dark comedy. And, and it was it was actually the thing that led me to New York 911 2001 We I was there a meeting with distributors to line up a distribution deal. And that's why I was in New York. And I ended up staying there and doing search and rescue and body recovery and all that and, and so that little film in its own way, you know, when I look back at it now I still have it in film format. And there's pieces of it online. But it wasn't the message I wanted to say and it had so many is a great little film. But it had so many things that happen it stopped it you know is about two kids that pulled a prank on America. And right after we finished the film, Columbine happened, and no one would touch it. And it was and then we had the sag strike and all these different things. It just kept momentum and then it would kill it momentum. And then I'm here I'm in New York and just got it did on 982 1001. Kind of a legend in the business said I'm taking this film under my wings, and we're gonna do something with this. And two days later, three days later. 911

Dr. Paul  13:59  
Wow. And then when it came to your activism that started sounds like around 911 era. How did that evolve?

Mikki Willis  14:10  
Well, that was that was kind of a gradual process for me. You know, I avoided politics my whole life. But after the 911 experience, I put everything I had in storage and went to live on a friend's vineyard in the Napa Valley. And I was hired to write and direct the sequel to EZ rider the classic, iconic movie. I wrote the screenplay, and then as it started to get real and Jay Leno announced it and then it was announced the Cannes Film Festival. All the people that were involved in it changed and I saw that that that kind of cannibalism of Hollywood where they all the sharks came out and I found myself in this position that I said I would never be in again. And I walked away from it. I walked away from a $400,000 paycheck, which was I never made anything close to that as an artist at that point in my life, but I just couldn't play the game. And so for me, it was temptation. It was a real, you know, Soul check at what did I really experienced something that changed me, or was it a temporary situation and I'm gonna go right back to my old habits and goals. And but this was the experience for me that was the first time I walked away, I've walked away from millions at this point, but I just I walked away from it. And, and then I started something called the elevat Film Festival, I met the love of my life, which we've been together for 20 years now, won and, and created the elevat Film Festival, because it was really a, it was a global challenge for other filmmakers to create meaningful work, because I know that's why 95% of us get into the business to move people to do something positive. And then the machinery just kind of makes you a slave to selling products and ideologies that are not your own, or that you wouldn't even use yourself and and so we started the Elevate Film Festival. And, and so many people shut up. And this thing blew up overnight and became the largest single screen event in the world. And what that means single screen event what that means is, there's a lot of film festivals that might have, they might be showing films and 20 theaters at once. And they have you know, 300 people per theater or whatever. But we had 6000 per arena watching one screen together. So it's a very unifying and incredible experience and really put us on the map. But after that experience, and realizing that I kind of had another awakening at one point, took a trip and did some time really sacred ceremonies with some indigenous elders in Peru and ended up on top of a mountain and and I got the really clear guidance that we're here to do something bigger, even our next show was at the Hollywood Bowl for 17,000. That it's only 17,000 and that it wouldn't move the needle and that it was almost like a premonition of what was coming that something was coming so much bigger that we needed to prepare for and, and kind of get out of the box of thinking that Hollywood Bowl is big. And understand that this thing called the internet was created so that we could reach the entire human population, or at least those who have internet and and so I dropped the festival at its peak, and and then decided that we're going to dedicate the rest of our our career to making films that make a difference.

Dr. Paul  17:33  
Wow. And does that bring us up to pandemic?

Mikki Willis  17:38  
Well, not quite yet. We, the first my first parlay into politics was like I said, I'd avoided it my whole life. I kind of bought into the old adage of never discuss politics. And so I never did I just, you know, I was happy to stay away from it. And then this character named Bernie Sanders comes along. And you know, as I mentioned, being a kid raised on welfare with a single mom, his rhetoric really moved me. And the idea of helping women and helping minorities and people that were struggling. And at that time, you know, because I wasn't fully aware, I wasn't as a scholar of capitalism or anything like that. I really thought that, you know, all the greedy people are the problem in the world. All the rich people are the problem the world when it really is the greedy people, I should say, yeah. And so I ended up filming an event for Bernie, and then a couple of celebrities that were with him. Shailene Woodley and Rosario Dawson, actually, Rosario was following me online. I didn't even know it. And I was doing a lot of Father Son videos, and, and she was following me online. And she said, why don't you come on the tour with us. And so I ended up filming Bernie's 2016 tour. And that's when I had my political awakening. While I was on tour and asking very straightforward, very clear questions. I was receiving the opposite and answers, nothing clear. Nothing straightforward, and nothing that made sense. And I started to realize that kind of, you know, the street kid in me came out and I realized there's there's a rat here, I'm smelling it, and something's wrong. And the more I got into it, the more I realized that I had been bamboozled by a rhetoric. And so I left the tour and announced online that I was you know, no longer supporting Bernie and that was the first time I saw the shallowness, the fragility of the left and how quick they called me a traitor and I got death threats, and it was just crazy. It was like, for simply stating the fact that I'm making another choice in my life right now. And it was shocking to me, because I didn't know that that's what the party was about. Then I started doing deep homework and really studying politics and the history of and and the history of the parties and policies. And and I just did decided that, from this point on, I'm not going to go into identify with any party, but I'm going to tell the truth wherever that truth lies. And we did the first real kind of crossing the line of the point of no return was when the narrative came out about the Covington students, the Nick Sandman case where, for those who might remember a few years ago, there was a bunch of 15 year old kids from Covington, Kentucky, students, Catholic kids that were at the Right to Life march. And, and it just so happens that the first indigenous peoples March was scheduled right around the corner from that event suspiciously, and that they ended up rallying the boys kind of into their area where they set them up for a massive media smear, saying that the boys surrounded the Native American elders with their red Magga hats on and started chanting build the wall. And I actually started to make a video to expose the kids because I was working at the time with a lot of Native American communities, and particularly Lakota. And they were involved in this and and, and I bought it hook, line and sinker. But I it took me a half a day to figure out that it was an entire setup, and it was a lie. And so in the middle of that I asked my crew, I said, Well, we've all looked at all the footage now we have a two hour live stream. The boys never said Build a wall. They were as polite as can be. We have all their cell phone footage. They're not even, I couldn't find them using the word Damn. They were just saying, Can we be friends? Can we shake hands? They were very cordial. But yet these adults were just doing everything they can to bait these kids and make them look bad. And, and I got my crew together. And I said, Well, we all see the truth now. And this is a truth because these boys appear to represent Donald Trump because they're wearing these red hats. Which the truth of the matter was, I talked with a chaperone that day one of the parents and she said, the kids were getting lost. And she goes just like they do at Disneyland. They saw, you know, you saw a vendor, and there were $5 Red Hats, and they all bought hats, just so they wouldn't lose each other. They don't know what those mean. And what that that's politics, nothing to do with politics. Yeah. But yet these kids are being smeared as mascots for Donald Trump. And I said, if we tell the truth on this one, in this climate, we're never coming back. And so my brave crew said, we're here to tell the truth. So let's just do it. And so we told the truth, and again, another round of smears and death threats and just craziness and, and that was really the, the thing that pushed me over the line to to even go deeper, which is I would say, now we're up to speed on on what gave me the courage to create pandemic. Wow, that's,

Dr. Paul  22:44  
we do share something I was a missionary kid. And I wouldn't say poor, but But yeah, we weren't wealthy, that's for sure. And, you know, missionaries, and in my family, it was always, you know, I had that same feeling that you had, which was that, you know, it's the rich that are the problem and felt like the Democrats were, you know, taking care of the poor and all of that kind of stuff. And what a wake up call we've had right

Mikki Willis  23:08  
huge wake up call and it's you know, I even had my buddy Delbeke train his wife over a week ago, because we were all lefties, I would even say I was a far left, you know, it was a that was as close as you can get to Antifa without without, you know, wearing a stupid face coverings. And but I had Dell and his wife Leo with it the other night too, because we were talking about the future of how it really changes and how do we make change real change and, and, and I was showing them some of my research about the Democratic Party and it shocked them you know, because they knew enough to know that it's the party's behind COVID And it's the it's behind censorship and the lock downs I knew that but they didn't I said you know that it was you know, Republican Party. This is not an endorsement for the Republican Party but it was part of me just ironing out how big of a lie has been told that was founded by 150 Black men and it was the Democratic Party actually was the party of the kk k and and fought against civil rights and and Democrat killed Lincoln over him freeing the slaves you know, it's it's like when you get down to all of that and you realize that the roots of that party because it was really like how did somebody you know, was saying how do we reform the party and I just said it's just if you know the history you wouldn't even ask that question because you can't reform it's like saying I'm gonna go reform the keh keh keh keh keh keh was set up to be what it is. And so it's it was shocking to me, especially being born or raised in California, where everything was pro Democrat and anti Republican. And so it's it's a real wake up call that I hope other people have completely because it until we understand the The the really the inner workings and the roots of that party will continue to be bamboozled and divided by the media that they control 95% off.

Dr. Paul  25:11  
Yeah, this would be a good moment to pivot a little bit, maybe we'll bypass pandemic for the moment and I want to get into your call for unity video. Because Wow. Talking about just politics, Republicans Democrats in that call for unity, you point out that, you know, well, you you share with with our audience, what inspired you for this particular call for unity?

Mikki Willis  25:40  
Well, you know, the video is really about infighting. And so, as a 20 plus year activist, I, it took me a while to learn this, of course, because it's done so covert covertly. But people a lot will pick up military lingo, you know, they'll start saying things like someone's controlled opposition, or they're compromised, or what have you, and, and good people on the same team will start to battle and start to smear each other, and sue each other and slander each other and all this stuff that happens. And I've watched this happen over and over with really important people powered movements. And it's, and what I say in the video is, it's it's suspiciously, it's always the people who are making the most progress, that then get smeared. If you look at I mean, just look at all the people that Julian Assange is of the world of the people that are, you know, they're called the worst things you could possibly be called. They're, you know, many times they're accused of, you know, rape or something like that. totally unfounded. They find one woman like Kavanaugh, right, someone to bring a bunch of unfounded accusations against someone even you know, but but yet no, no one remembers the moment no one remembers where the house is, the friends don't even remember, it's completely fabricated. But that the stigma of the story reduces that person's power to actually make change. And that's what it's about. So when people talk SIOP and a psyop, is a psychological operation, it's a military term. Because the wars these days, because any kind of a, a military strike these days with any other superpower would pretty much mean total annihilation for all of us. We, you know, we're at that point. So, the years ago, I think a lot of the superpowers realized, well, we messed with the US and they had the most powerful military will probably get destroyed. And so let's do it psychologically. And, and I point out in the video that the Art of War by Sun Tzu is a very important book to read. And there's some quotes that I add in that video there, because it's all about defeating the enemy without fighting, it's all about defeating the enemy from within. And so one of the things that I think a lot of Americans are waking up to right now is that the enemies have breached our gates, they're inside, and they're foreign, and they're domestic. And so we are in World War, World war three, and we have been for a number of decades, it just looks very differently than we're used to. And, you know, they've infiltrated our schools or school boards, or as you know, medicine and academia and everything has been infiltrated with destructive ideologies that lead our next workforce, our our, and our military, someone just showed me today an animated military, promotional video, that's just absolutely ridiculous and have a side by side comparing it to what Russia has video, which was really about testosterone field, you know, which some people might have a judgment against that. And then ours was just, I have two moms, and, and we're, you know, and so I found a great way to love the world as joining the military. And it's really just like, unbelievable propaganda for small children. But it's not even really about the military. It's about the ideology of, of further pressing this agenda to confuse our next generations about gender. I am a, you know, liberal, but not in the Democratic sense. I'm liberal in the way that I, I, when I say I stand for freedom, I stand for freedom, and you have the right to do whatever you want to do with your body in your space. So long as it doesn't affect anyone else that doesn't want to experience that and in a negative way, such as bringing those ideologies to someone else's child. And so I have a major problem, which is why my wife and I started a new educational program and the kids were thriving because we just said, There's no way we're going to subject our kids to the ideologies that are being pressed in this in this corrupt educational system. And so getting back onto the Unity video, it was really, I've been mediating so many of the infighting that's been happening with a lot of the top doctors, you're probably the only one that I haven't hadn't had a conversation with about it. But I've spent hours and weeks on the phones, with most of them, just letting them know from my perspective, like Don't take the bait. You can disagree with someone, you can even hate someone go for it, that's fine. That's your, again, freedom. That's that's your choice. But all of this online smearing this going out and public, to to smear someone, if it as I say in the video, there are some people that need to be called out by name. But the majority of the time, they don't the majority of the time, they're just people being egotistical people and are they're saying something and people don't agree that you know, someone's calling it a vaccine, and it's it's not a vaccine, they shouldn't say that. And they, whatever it is, you know, our we need all the bodies, we need the we need the numbers we need. Everyone we can get to at least say we're standing here in this fight together. The moment we turn our attention towards each other, we're wasting so much time. And the enemy there are enemies out there enemies against humanity, enemies against nature and enemies against life. They're laughing at us. Because this is the whole game is division. And I'll say as somebody that was raised adjacent to the, you know, gay and lesbian community because my brother was gay. It was when I was a child. And I was first learned that you my brother's gay, oh, it was kind of I grew up he was 14 years older than me. So from the moment I grew up, I, it was normalized to me. And I don't mean in a negative way, because the community actually treated me wonderfully. A bunch of very wonderful people that my brother bought around, brought around a never, never a problem. That's, you know, but it was easy for me to conceive as a young man. I remember the moment when I went from the gay community to the gay and bisexual is like, well, I can understand next, my brother had a wife, and then he had a boyfriend and Okay, so they went both ways. And then it was gay, bisexual, lesbian, and I thought, Well, what a weird word what the women don't want to be called gay. I don't I remember as a young man going, that's strange to me. But now look what it is LGBTQ i A plus whatever. I'm not endorsing anything. Here, I want the viewers and listeners to know that it's just an example and metaphor to show that that's that's how they want all those groups in fighting. That's why the divide them up. That's why they have feminism when that first started, I think most of us could agree on very simple, women should be voting, and they should have the right to equal rights that men have and all of that, that it was second wave, third wave, fourth wave. And now all those groups are in fighting. And now all the, you know, all the you know, gay people that are saying are fighting against the, you know, transgender women in sports. And so they're all infighting. And so we take our eye off the ball, because now we're all battling each other. And that's the only way, the only way that we can lose this. So I made the video, hopefully, and I'm so glad that it's getting so much traction out there. To just really wake people up to understand that that's, that's truly the game. And as I say in the video, that we're actually doing the work of controlled opposition, when we gossip and smear each other. We need to stand with each other. And like, as I said, even if we don't like each other.

Dr. Paul  33:32  
Yeah, no, absolutely. Sounds like we get pitted against one another with all these little battles. Not that they're irrelevant. But in the big scheme of things, they are irrelevant. What we have one common threat, do we not? And that's the threat against our freedom and bodily integrity. You know, and and if we can't unite around that, we've got the next Holocaust is upon us.

Mikki Willis  33:56  
Well, you know, I was part of producing the defeat the mandates event that took place in DC and Los Angeles. And so we had 10s of 1000s of people show up to this. And there was a moment when he's become a good friend of mine now. Riza Islam came up to me, he had a mask on, he pulled it down, he goes, pandemic, and I said, Yeah, and he goes, Ah, nice work, man. And he walked away and, and, you know, his Nation of Islam, he's, he's taller than I am. He's six, five. And, you know, he was so cordial, and so much gratitude in his eyes for the work that I had done. I stood there and I looked around. And I realized I said, I we have black lives matter here. We have Nation of Islam. We have Hasidic Jews. We have top doctors. We have mothers, we have fathers, we have Christians, we have Muslims. We are all united for our freedom. But around that same time, I realized this optic is going to be bring a whole slew of diversionary tactics that we have to be careful, because now they see us together in that way. They're going to do everything they can to break us apart. And that's that they're doing a really good job of that right now. But I trust that we're going to wizened up and, and recognize the game very soon.

Dr. Paul  35:22  
Yeah, it feels like the propaganda just intensifies. I mean, if you watch anything on mainstream that has to do with COVID, or vaccines, it's just every single word out of their mouths is lies. Yes, yeah. And when you hear that on every single outlet of news, even large social media platforms, my own mother goes, Well, Paul, how could you be right? And everybody else is wrong. Say, mom, I've been living this battle, this whole issue for my entire career, or at least the last 20 years.

Mikki Willis  35:53  
Yeah, that's the illusion of truth, what I call it because that's the that was the hardest thing for people to get when pandemic came out is they would say that all the time, it's just what your work feels valid. Like it resonates with me as truth, but I just can't get with the idea that there's this giant conspiracy going on and all these people are behind it. And I said, well, the vast majority are not behind it. They're just going along with it. And it's the same way that Hitler it's mass formation it's psychosis it's it's it's it's hypnosis. way when Hitler you know, all the dictators and, and totalitarian leaders, they hypnotize the people into doing their dirty work, the same thing for Big Pharma has done, you know, big pharma doesn't fight their battles. They're not they have no, you know, they're immune from having to fight anything. And so who fights for Big Pharma? The people who say something negative about a drug, you say, Ritalin is bad for kids, don't put your kids on Ritalin, oh, you get attacked crazy. You know, and, and, and these are the same parents that will be crying and five years when when their son or daughter is in rehab, or have overdosed and died. You know, and so you can't say anything about these horrific drugs that have been that are killing humanity in record numbers, because Big Pharma has done such a great job at pretending to be the Savior. And that's one of the biggest problems, Paul is that we, we, I think we're so programmed into being followers and waiting for someone to save us, you know, all the hero movies and all that someone's going to come save us that we're always looking for someone to be the knight in shining armor. And this is the moment I've been studying mythology and storytelling for over 30 years. And, and if you look at the work of, let's say, Joseph Campbell, and the hero's journey, and all of that, and all the iconic movies that are worth remembering. There's a common theme. And then it's it's a reluctant hero. It's a hero that goes out in search of the hero. And then they're told the forces within you are the one. That's the common story. That's the hero's journey. And so I think that because we've lost trust, and that's actually a good thing right now. We've lost trust and authority, that we're going to be left with only one source to trust and that's awesome. God. Yeah,

Dr. Paul  38:40  
it feels like people have lost the ability to do critical thinking. And I mean, certainly in medical school, it's very militaristic in the sense of it's top down education. When you're, you graduate from medical school, you become an intern, right? So you pretty much obey what your senior resident tells you who obeys what the attending tells them. And we all listen to the CDC and you know those oh my gosh, those amazing people Yeah, it's it's quite just top down and then you park your ability to think critically it's absolutely hugely concerning. Yeah,

Mikki Willis  39:19  
that's all by design really, you know, the every every device that we're addicted to and and just the our surroundings enhance our this this kind of default system we have for to become dependent to be taken care of. Yeah, and and it kind of flies in the face of what should be the goal and that sovereignty you know, my wife said today and we're I'm hyper aware of it you might my boys were in Texas, and it's as close as it can get to snowing right now. It's everything's frozen and I have an eight year old and 11 year old and two extraordinary young men and their adventures. And so I don't even know what the temperature is right now. But it's cold. And they decided they wanted to go to the park. And so we live half a mile from the park. And so of course, I go, Okay, fine, have a good time. And so, you know, my, my wife, she says, They have Apple watches. So she says, just let me know when you made it there. And, and then they let her know that they made it. And then a little while she was caught, a lot of time has passed, it might be getting him to call, I should go pick them up. You know? And I said, No, let's please, please don't, please don't, because they made a choice to go out into uncomfortable environment. And I don't want them to feel that they can make radical choices and just be bailed out. I want them to deal with the consequences of their choice. And that might be uncomfortable, and they might be really cold. But let them experience that. Because that's an incredible lesson for us and know that what that our life is comprised of moment to moment choices. And so many of our youth have been coddled to the point of not, that's why they have safe spaces now, right? Someone says something that you deem to be violent speech. And then you need a safe space. So you can avoid being challenged by someone's voice, which is a word is just a breath and a vibration, that sound. So we're literally becoming so fragile that we can't deal with, with speech. Not us, but so many of us. And it's a very dangerous thing. And that's all part of the SIOP. Because when you have a generations of people that are too fragile to hear, speech, they don't agree with how they're going to protect the country. Yeah, how are they going to become an entrepreneur, which requires a lot of stamina, dealing with defeat, and failure, and drama and legalities. And they're not, they're not going to do anything. And that's the goal. It's like, they just let the you know, just take the stipends or socialist stipends from the state, which comes with total control. Yeah.

Dr. Paul  42:25  
So are you allowed to talk about your next movie yet?

Mikki Willis  42:29  
Oh, yeah, I have, I have three movies, there'll be four movies, actually, but three of them I can talk about.

Dr. Paul  42:35  
Fantastic. So the next one coming, I believe, is pandemic three, right.

Mikki Willis  42:41  
Pandemic three, the Great Awakening, I wish it were, I wish it was the next one. It's, it's the last in line of the three, I have a couple others that will be out before then we have a movie called bad medicine about people being killed by remdesivir. And ventilators in the hospital, we have a movie called Follow the silenced, which has been a year and a half or so in the making. And that is about the people that were severely injured, and what they're doing to heal and, and really the truth behind the people that were vaccine injured. And then we have planned to move through the Great Awakening, which is the big picture, it's less about COVID, and more about what COVID was used for. And, and the people behind it. And, and also the the mask formation aspect of what keeps us out of our ability to critically think and how to wake up from that, how to wake up our loved ones from that, and how to how to create, create our way out of this mess.

Dr. Paul  43:40  
Wonderful. I mean, that's, I can't wait for that movie, because that is part. The biggest conundrum and challenge is so many of my loved ones being as I came from that liberal environment, right, I live in Oregon, and we're almost everybody's democratic here. And I don't have a party. I'm I'm just like you, we're gonna follow the truth. And we're going to stand for the truth. And that's that, but you have your loved ones who you see them kind of headed towards the cliff, right? And you want you want to save them? And how how do we do that? When they're, I can't wait to see to see her movie.

Mikki Willis  44:19  
Yeah, thank you. We were putting a lot of effort into it. It's, it's I unfortunately, fortunately, and unfortunately, I have to take a break for about a month from it. Because I have a movie that I'm going to film for Prager University starts it starts on the 13th. And so we'll knock that one out. And probably three weeks or so it'll be a quick one. But you know, when I sat down to say what the reason the pandemic one really hit that Zeitgeist was the timely subject. And the whole world was asking questions of what's really going on, they could feel that something was up. And so when I sat down to say what is the next thing that we can say that will be as important as the first one or more. It was really about solutions. It's it's, it's we have been systemically divided from our nature. And this has happened, I've never been more aware of it than I am today. Even some of my favorite films that perpetuate the narrative that humans are a parasite on the planet, a failed experiment. This is all when we lower our esteem of what it is to be human. It's actually the most disrespectful thing we can do. That we can believe against the gift that is life and against the creation of life, is to somehow assume that, and I get it because I used to have a saying, when I was much younger, I say I were just moss on a rock. And we're trying to make meaning out of the tourists Masana rock, just growing wild. And here we are trying to make it mean something. I don't believe that anymore. I believe that we are brilliant, and resilient. The human body is one of the most extraordinary instruments ever, that we're capable of so much more than I think we've ever been allowed to explore. And that the gift of this horrific situation of the past two and a half plus years, is that I think it's forcing us to confront that truth.

Dr. Paul  46:36  
Amen. Absolutely. So I don't know if you can share this. But what's the best way for people to break this spell when you're under that spell? Because you you can't see or critically think because you're already under that spell?

Mikki Willis  46:55  
Yeah. Well, well first, stop paying attention. And when I say paying attention, I mean that in a very literal sense, our attention. I mean, mentioned, I've been studying the work of Joseph Campbell's hero's journey for years. And within the hero's journey, mythologies, they'll always talk about the Holy Grail or the boon, it's this treasure, the Jewel of the Nile, it's the treasure that a lot of the heroes are going after. And that might be love that might be survival. And a lot of times it's a lot of money or it's some some ancient treasure or whatever it might be. And and I asked myself years ago, so what what is the holy grail? Like, what is it really because I, all these movies are metaphors for the Holy Grail, but what is it and a few years ago, I it just came to me I said, it's, it's this thing we call our attention. Our attention is the rudder of our ship it the wheel that controls the rudder of our ship. And our attention has been hijacked. I know this from producing commercials and being in boardrooms with high level ad executives that the entire objective is to capture your attention. That's why you see so many commercials with you know, scantily clad women has nothing to do with the hamburger or the car, they're selling or whatever. But it gets your attention. So you look, because women look and men look and then it's like, by the way, we're selling this and it has nothing to do with the product or the ingredients in the product or how its how its formulated, that didn't really care about that anymore. It's just good branding and and capture your attention. And then you become a lifelong customer, you buy their product and most of the products are made with ingredients that are addictive. So once you start you'll be a customer for life. And so for us to an answer to your question, it is to become the masters of our attention again, we get to place our attention wherever we choose it to be. And because it's been hijacked right now, many people the will of their attention is in someone else's hands. And so they hear a phrase, they see a billboard there, whatever, and they just go like a robot and they move there and they and they react and they get on the front lines and they start chanting slogans that they don't even know what they mean because they their attention has been hijacked and so to reclaim that to become you know, the that is our dominion is is I get to choose it's helped me understanding this when I did help me through the My 911 experience and all of that because there was a moment when I had seen a lot of stuff while we were collecting body parts and and I had a we were told 40 Some hours and everyone needed to go take all the rescue workers go take a nap, because otherwise we'd be dangerous to ourselves and everyone else around and so I tried to and I had this little this little lucid dream him were a voice said to me, this could be your Vietnam. And I set up and I had to think about that, what what does that mean? And I realized that as a young man, being born in the late 60s, that my impression of Vietnam vets was the guys that I saw on the corners that needed a lot of help. And, you know, begging for food and help, because of what they saw messed them up somehow that they couldn't participate in society in a healthy way. And so I thought, Wow, this could be my Vietnam cheese. Have I seen too much already? Do I get to choose? Or is it just, is it just automatic. And I remembered that my attention is my holy grail I get to choose. And so I shifted from a place of fear to a place of gratitude, I had a great cry. And I realized how lucky I was to be standing on the rubble of this experience, that, that most of the world was wishing they could be there to help. And somehow, I ended up there and this moment that I could did, I could be part of this horrific, historic experience in my nation. And so it shifted, that became the catalyst for good stuff. I didn't have the health issues that a lot of people I was with had. I didn't have no no, no PTSD, except for very mild anytime I hear. You know, Earthmovers of the beat beat backing up. Right away. I always flashback but it's not a negative flashback. It's just a memory. So it's a very valuable thing for us to protect the same way that we protect our infants protect your attention. Where do you place it? When they say paying attention? You are paying with your attention? So what are you paying? What are you funding? Propaganda? Watch, be very careful at what you pay attention to. I taught my boys this. And now sometimes I'll say, Can I watch some dad, they'll turn it on, I'll walk out of the room, I come back and TV's off and I go, what happened? You don't like it, they go, No, it's propaganda. Good for them. You know, and, and so it's like, to be able to say is attractive as this is as alluring as this might be, I'm bored, I need entertainment. Protect your attention and and place it where it needs to be, you know, learn, study, grow. And, and, and also stay out of the negativity. You know, that's another thing fear it, there's, there's there's chemical as there's things that occur in the world of dopamine and serotonin, and that we have to understand what we experience triggers these hormones, and thus creates, we create our reality from the experience, of, of, of, of what gets released in our body. And so the more we experience, doom and gloom and fear, the more we're triggering this addiction to doom and gloom and fear. And, and if we understand that the human body is like a radio of your car, is a receiver and a broadcaster, it receives through that little antenna, and then it and then broadcast the music for you. We are receivers and broadcasters. And so if we're, we spend our time absorbing and consuming negativity, that's the station that we're tuned to. That's the music that we're broadcasting in the world. So on one hand, we're here trying to do something good in the world and do something positive. But as I say, you know, the majority of our of our thoughts are unconscious, unconsciously 90% of our world has been created negatively. And so the more that we become aware of the realities of the negativity, I don't mean bypass it by not looking at it, but be be aware. And then transform it transmute it. You know, it's like alchemy transmute that into just like I did on the, at the World Trade Center. I said, this could destroy me, and this could be my Vietnam, or it could be something wonderful. I get to choose what that is. And so for me to my, my personal work has been shortening that space between the, the negative experience and the alchemy, because I know that a lot of the negative experiences I've had in my life, I look back two years, 10 years later, and I went wow, that breakup was the best thing that ever happened to me at the time. It was disastrous, but what a gift. So now my life is about something happens and it occurs to me as as I resist it in the moment. And then I just go I'm an I look back on this as a gift. So I might as well do it now save me save myself some time, and then doesn't stick to us. And it doesn't change our music. So we can broadcast what we came here to sing.

Dr. Paul  55:11  
Wow, you can tell a lot about a person by where they put their attention or where they spend their money and their time. That's a huge, powerful reminder to all of us. As we wrap up, I'm just curious how you study this, and in your filmmaking, at this point, what are the greatest threats that you see coming? And how do we prepare?

Mikki Willis  55:36  
Well, China's a really big threat. And so China is dead set on becoming the next superpower. And they they own majority of our debt. They're producing 90 plus percent of all the precious materials that we need for things like microchips, computer chips, everything that, you know, has to do with our cell phones and technologies. They've had spies in our universities for decades, stealing all of our secrets. And when I, when I say that, I want to be super clear that it's not the wonderful, brilliant Chinese people, it's the Communist Party. And what people don't know is that we are in a cultural revolution here. So if you study Mao, and what happened in China with Mao's Cultural Revolution, to get people to, to adhere to what where China is right now, which is in a state of total communism. I mean, they don't hide it. They call it the CCP, it's the Chinese Communist Party. And people are prisoners, you hear a lot of propaganda people saying, Oh, you guys are all wrong. No, it's these people cannot speak out of line. They just had a protest. And one thing that a lot of people don't know here in America is the vast majority of those protesters have disappeared. And that's China China if you have religious beliefs that they don't agree with which is they're atheists so that means any religious belief it's not uncommon that they will kidnap you take your Oregon's sell them and bury you. This is a reality that's occurring today that a lot of people don't want to look at. And so so that's China. And and they are, they are a big threat to what we're doing here. That's the CCP and is very big threat. They're having some troubles economically, which it could could slow this process and could be our saving grace. But we also don't want China to fail because they have such a stranglehold on us and the rest of the world that if they fail, we all fail. So we don't want destruction for China. But we certainly I would love to have them kind of give up their their strike against our life and our future here. So there's that. And, and the Cultural Revolution, the Mao's Cultural Revolution basically did away with everything worth living and dying for. So they created a genderless society, they shaved that woman's women's heads, they put everyone in the same uniform, they wanted a sexuality. They really messed up though, because with their one child policy and all of that, that they're facing, collapse, their population is so old, because they don't have new people being born, that they they have ghost cities, entire cities that are unpopulated, so this is part of why they're in an economic down word spiral right now. And so that's very, that's, but that's what the has been implemented here. So this kind of a Marxist, this, these woke agendas that seemed benevolent, and, and moral and, and just about freedom, just about inclusivity. Just about it's all of this is the Cultural Revolution, this is how they do it. They they push against any kind of religion, because religion gives people strength, they don't, they will, they will die for their faith. They push against the family big time, because there's very few things that men would fight over more than protecting their family. So they break down the family, they want to make the kids part of governed by the government. And they've made great progress in this nation already, as we've all been seen and learning. And so all of that depends on political policies, if that continues or not. We have a very corrupt voting system. And so we have to fix that. Because politicians are selected, they're not elected. And so we have to make sure that that's fixed, so that we can actually start welcoming in the people that we understand Understand this. And because any further momentum that this gains moves us further away from the sovereignty and survival, quite quite honestly. So We have to be aware of that. But to be aware that, you know, I've been an environmental activist for 25 years or so. And I will tell you that the vast majority, majority of the climate narrative is absolute BS. We are 100% doing harm to our environment. There is something called manmade climate change to a certain degree, but not to a disastrous degree, we are affecting the climate. Our real issue is pollution. We're polluting our soil, our water, our air, everything you can imagine, they don't want to call it pollution though, because there's solution to every every style of pollution, there's a solution, we have the money for it, we can clean up our oceans, we can clean up our soil, we can start stop spraying harmful chemicals on our crops, we can we can do this stuff tomorrow. So they don't want to call it that they want to name it some invisible boogeyman that only politicians have access to helping. And so for people to be really aware that your emotions are being toyed with I call it weaponized morality. And so when you hear particularly the, the Democratic politicians talk about anything that sounds good, it's probably not, it's probably just a way to capture the rest of your liberties. And they'll never fix the problem. So let's wizened up to that and understand that that is the game a lot of them don't know, that's the game they're playing, you know, the AOC is or the world or whatever, they're just puppets. They've been so indoctrinated that they believe it. So it's not like they're, they're, you know, intentionally lying to the people. They're just incredibly misinformed. And so climate change is going to be COVID was a dress rehearsal for climate change. Climate change is where they're going to issue carbon credits, they're going to start telling people what kind of cars to drive they've already started, you know, hinting out, you know, getting rid of gas stoves, and it's total control, it's what kind of stove you can have, what kind of car you can have, how many miles a month, you can drive, if at all, they're trying to create the cities where everything you know, Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum are talking about these cities now beyond smart cities, but these these cities where everything's within 15 minute walk, so there's no reason you can just have a bike and bike everywhere. But those are fully surveyed cities and and that's what they ultimately want like China has literally I've seen them facial recognition systems you know, crowds of people coming out at rush hour and every single person that machine picks them up immediately and there's their name there's their information there's a data you're gonna data basic until you all you have 50,000 people that walked the street that day and and in that car that's how they got these protesters is a facial record recognize all of them and they went one by one and swept them up. And And trust me, no one will after that, because you had it back in tenement square and then now modern day which everyone i Everyone who knows China's like these people are brave enough to to protest in China right now. Those are the bravest people on the planet. And but no one will ever do that again. Until that until that regime changes because they made an example out of them and now they're gone. Wow. In jail or dead? I

Dr. Paul  1:03:23  
don't know. Yeah. Incredible. Well, I know people can go to pandemic series.com, right to get more information.

Mikki Willis  1:03:32  
Pandemic series.com has all of my films on there and all my films are free, my book is free, I refuse to profit off of anything pandemic related. So my audio book is right on there, click on it and download it. You'll see we have a little The only thing that I because I don't know how I survive these days except for trying to find you know, little little merchandise stuff to sell it. So we have shirts like this, we have hoodies and shirts and hats. You see that on the website that's called Rebel lion that that's our our store that we created so that we can stay afloat. I welcome anyone we work 100% on donations. And it all goes to make the movies that you've all seen out there and there's a donation button on pandemic series.com. I appreciate that if people can support us and and I appreciate you for your continued support. I love coming full circle back with you. I think the first time we sat down I just looked at that interview the other day, it just popped up on my harddrive. And I just remember having such a great experience sitting next to you and feeling your incredible compassion and love for humanity. So anything you ever need, don't hesitate to call me.

Dr. Paul  1:04:44  
Thank you Mickey. Folks, you've if you've gotten this far, you've already watched the call for unity. Go to plan demic series.com and support Mickey and his work and watch those movies if you haven't seen them yet. They are powerful and life changing. Thanks Mickey. Thank you

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