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​Dr. Paul  0:00  
Welcome to against the wind doctors in science under fire. I'm Dr. Paul, your host today's show, folks, I have a massive announcement actually, Google whistleblower Zack vorys announces the release of his blast video platform. This is a no censorship platform that will bring you rumble bit shoot Bridey on videos that are important that are live without any censorship. This is going to be the solution to what we've all been struggling where do we go to get 24/7 onpoint uncensored information that's important for our lives. Bernadette and I discussed the topic of flipping the system moving away from fear of disease and towards science and natural immunity. We discussed the microbiome, its importance and the importance of us taking charge of our own health. Enjoy the show.

Dr. Paul, coming to you from the heart. Today I'm tackling the topic of how does one thrive in adversity. I'm going to get a little personal today. As you can see, I've gotten my ducks in a row. That lead duck was given to me by one of my patients that actually says quack MD on it. Those of you who understand integrative medicine and what we do. Yeah, we're the quacks. Now, I'm gonna get a little more serious though. I just turned 65. This past year has been like none other. You know, I've been dealing with the Oregon Medical Board taking my license. I've had a separation from my wife of 30 years and did a divorce this last December, the practice was struggling from loss of vaccine income. There have been family dynamics, as you might imagine, father of nine, three biologic six adopted. It's been a year starting this show, though. That was one of the gifts that came out of all of this adversity. And I'm so grateful to each one of you who've tuned in those of you who've supported me during this interesting time. So how does one thrive in adversity. I've had to learn to be open. I've had to learn to really tune in and accept love. I've had to learn to love myself, and be open to the lessons that are before me. But staying curious to what I'm experiencing has helped. And trying to remain in a place where you're having sympathy for others who are struggling, the lessons keep coming, I'm doing my best to learn them as I go. But once learned, that's a whole new place. What used to be a thorn in your side becomes a companion on your journey. I'm so grateful to all in my life who have shown me love supported me, and allowed me to grow in the way that I needed to grow. And I know a lot of you watching have been growing along with and have been a part of this journey. And so my heart goes out to you all in gratitude. Thank you for all you've done. You're a blessing in my life. So if all of your ducks aren't in a row, just remember, you can breathe in love. And exhale stress or whatever is keeping your ducks out of alignment. Enjoy the show.

Welcome, Zack Vorhies to against the wind. It's so great to have you back a few months ago, we discussed your background, the Google censorship machine, YouTube's blacklist, and how YouTube I'm sorry, Google targets health websites. So good to have you back. Tell me what's new in your life?

Zach Vorhies  3:40  
Well, I'm really excited that I've been able to launch this blast dot video. It's a new solution for censorship that I believe is going to fix the whole censorship problem on the internet. Because what's really what's really going on is there's this centralized control, we're all it's a monopoly essentially, where everyone's coming to YouTube in order to figure out what everyone is talking about. And since October 15 2020, YouTube has been especially aggressive in taking your voices and scattering them amongst the different alternative tech platforms. And so right now, if you are looking for sensible opinions, you have to play this what I call the social media shuffle, where you go from one website to another website in order to figure out what the heck is everyone talking about today? And what I realized is that I could automate this entire process, which I did for myself, I automated the news feeds and I said, Hey, this is a really useful tool and and so I started designing this website, which I released yesterday called the last video that I'd like to show you, Paul. Let's see it. All right. I hate censorship more than anyone else. I bet I know. And that's reason why I created last video, a new type of social media system called an aggregator. And the way that it cracks through censorship is that it scans open video platforms like rumble like bitch you like brave yawn like gab TV and looks for new content by the content creators that you love. It takes those new videos that finds it brings it under one single website called blast that video where it shows it to you. Content creators like Joe Rogan Project Veritas Alex Jones and Infowars Ben's war rooms to Peter's next news network rebel news OPN Newsmax epic times, we feature independent creators like awaken with JP Dinesh D'Souza Steven Crowder Bunger report and you know, Chrissy Mayer, Judicial Watch Lex Friedman, Jordan Peterson Jordan Seder and benders deal Glenn Beck Rubin Report God that's Sarah Carter Viva free Charlie Kirk Mr. Regan Lionel nation. Our ESPN black pigeon speak Scott Adams Lauren southern Lauren Chen Ben Shapiro del baytree Dix Hexen hammer Gateway Pundit Candace Owens, quite frankly, Freedom Toots we are changed Jimmy Dore Tim Poole anomaly the quarter a black conservative Daedric health range report. Matt Walsh Prager, you red pill 78 Sara Westfall. Sgt reports. We scan a total of 250 content creators across platforms every single hour For fresh videos. It's like censorship never even happened to the conservative community. And I'm looking for your help to make the last video that number one spot in American for conservative news. The reason is because I want to create a better future, future future. In the future. There is no censorship with human snakes, you blast blast off in New York. And I'm going to use this time machine to go back to the present.

And it looks like glasstop video couldn't come soon enough. So you may be asking yourself, when does glasstop video launch? Okay, great news. If all goes well, glasstop video will launch in 10 seconds 9876. Last time that your microphone gets sent go in order for you guys to support this project, which is to deliver you the news, unfiltered and raw. And that's what we want. Because we want to be able to take all these different sources, we want to combine them onto one single website so that you can see what other people are talking about every single day of the week. And guess what, Paul, you are on this section. Go ahead and check the Health tab when your video launches when your next video launches, and you'll see yourself on the health feed.

Dr. Paul  8:35  
Wow. Zack, how much is this going to cost us

Zach Vorhies  8:38  
is absolutely free. Okay, no login required. Just it's it's your news delivered to you. And if you really missed the YouTube recommendation algorithm, well, this is exactly what it is. It's a cross platform recommendation algorithm. It's free, it's uncensored. The reason why we can stay on Censored is because we don't have a native app. So we don't have to comply with the App Store. We're actually a progressive web app, you can install us to the homepage, go to your bookmarks on iOS, or Android and click Add Page to homescreen. And then you're going to get an app icon just like a regular app. It's going to look like a regular app, but it's actually going to be a web app. That means that we can be as free as we want to be without any sort of restrictions. And really, do you really need to install an app for a new site? Not really, right. Like it's a solve problem. The browser does it really well. And it's it's there for you to be able to enjoy the news. And hey, if you'd like the project, then support, you know, my efforts to do this. The goal of my crowdfunding is to get this project funded for the next year. And hopefully long, you know, beyond that as well, because we really want to have, you know, essentially a news aggregation site that's not owned by bad shadowy people that you don't know who they are, you know who I am, you know, I'm a patriot. I didn't ask to be in this role. I just wanted to be an engineer. But unfortunately, you know, the situation is what it is. And, you know, I got green in the face trying to tell the people, you need to aggregate all this content, like I told Gab, I told, you know, a bunch of other sites, why don't you just grab all the people's content because people aren't interested in a platform, they are interested in the people on those platforms, right. And so really, what these platforms are, is the representations of people like spaces where people can gather. And so this idea that I had, which was to grab everyone that's around the internet, and just combine them all into one single page sort of fell on deaf ears. And so I said, Well, if they're not going to do it, then I might as well do it myself, because I've got the chops. And so I learned how to do web development. I was a C++ programmer before, but how hard could it be? So I learned JavaScript, I learned a web deployment, and I built up this website. And unlike the other websites, this one can't be taken down, because we don't have any dynamic components to it. It's a static site that's generated, and then pushed out to the CDN. And it updates once every hour. And so you can't overload it. There's nothing to take down. Hackers can't take it down. And hey, if you're a hacker out there, try to take it down. And because it's built using the simple technology, if Amazon's like, Oh, we're not going to host it, oh, well, guess what turns out that you can run this thing from a laptop. So you know, this is my solution to the censorship problem. I'm expecting it to pretty much solve it for America. And I expect that other countries hopefully around the world will copy this idea and use it for their own sort of like, domestic aggregation of the influences are in this country. So I think that this is a really huge step in America, censorship has been a real big thorn in all of your sides. And this is my straightforward solution to get rid of it. So I hope that if you're listening to this right now, that you come to class, stop video, you bookmark it, and you start coming here every single day, because I've tried really, really hard to make this the best place for conservative news 24/7. And if it's not, I'm going to make sure that it is every single day.

Dr. Paul  12:22  
You know, Zack, the only thing I would add to that, because I come from actually a very liberal background. And some of our viewers come from a liberal background. News is news, folks. And while you take a more conservative approach, at least from from how you approach things, you're just presenting news. I mean, there are a lot of people on this platform that you listed off who some might call them conservative, some might not folks, you need the real truth. You need the uncensored news. And this is the spot. I don't know how you pull it off it tech wise, thank God, you're a genius in that area. And here you go world have at it.

Zach Vorhies  13:00  
Yep, it is. Thank you so much, Paul, for featuring this. For all you sitting at home. You know, please use last thought video every day. And if you like the work that I'm doing, please support me at Gibson go slash blast video. Again, that's give a send go.com/last thought video.

Dr. Paul  13:23  
I imagined Zach, this is extremely expensive to put together and actually continue because I know from trying to do a my show isn't live. It's pre recorded because live is so expensive. And there's expenses involved, right?

Zach Vorhies  13:39  
Oh, well, you know, the thing is, is that it's usually really expensive. But I did all the work by myself. So you know, I had built the site out, you know, contracted out to anyone else. So right now, the costs are essentially zero. But once people start coming to the site, and those server bills start racking up, then it's going to get really expensive, like running a website that serves, you know, one person is a lot different of an expense than one that serves potentially millions. Right. And so that's what we're looking to to get. Yeah,

Dr. Paul  14:12  
that's that's what I was referring to when you start having hundreds of 1000s and millions of people accessing that server. There's a cost, right? Absolutely. Yeah. substantial cost. So folks support this. This is what we've been asking for. This is what we've needed. And thank you so much, Zach.

Zach Vorhies  14:30  
Thank you very much, Paul, you have a great day. You too.

Dr. Paul  14:38  
Welcome Nick Corbishley, author of the book scan. Thank you for sending me this copy. I got to read the book before it's released and it's just come out and wow, what a what an important book. I've just been really eager to talk to you you tackle this issue of vaccine passports. with some real clarity, maybe start off by just tell me a little bit about yourself and what got you to write this book. Okay?

Nick Corbishley  15:09  
Well, I'm a British journalist who's been living in Barcelona for the last 20 years. And I started writing about vaccine passports, in around about fake news, it was April 2021. When I started seeing what was happening in Israel, Israel was the first we might call democracy, Western democracy to go down the route of launching a vaccine, passport. And I was beginning to see what was happening there. And it was it was, it was setting off certain alarm bells in my mind. Seeing how much segregation how much discrimination, we were beginning to see this kind of like coercion, of have people to take the vaccines. And, and I began to look at what's happening in the European Union, because they were considering going down the same route, which they did a couple of months later. And, and I wrote my first article in April 2021. And I said that there were seven major, major concerns that we should be looking out for, with regard to vaccine passports. And we were maybe a little bit complacent, we were being taught, told the wrong story, we were being told that this is just a continuation of what we've done. In the past, we were being told that this is, you know, we've had vaccine certificates before. And this is just like, a modern, digital quick continuation of this. And it just didn't stack up and

Dr. Paul  16:39  
traveled. I traveled the world as a kid, my parents were missionaries. And the extent of any kind of vaccine record was like for yellow fever, you had to have proof of that shot to go into certain countries. That's about it. I mean, we were, you know, everybody could travel the world freely. The passport, you're talking about an Israel, I think is that the green pass,

Nick Corbishley  17:00  
that's the green pass. Yes. And it was, interestingly, what came out two months later in, in the European Union in June, we've also called the Green pass. And so a little bit of a coincidence there. But I mean, the really dark thing for me is just the way that it incrementally expands. So it begins, you know, in Europe, we were told that the EU's, green pass was going to be mainly was purely to reopen borders, to get people traveling, again, to revitalize the tourism sector, which is nice important in the world right now. And within about a week, or to, you had countries, using it for domestic purposes, using it to prevent people from being able to have a drink in a bar, or having a drink in a restaurant or between the restaurant. So we have a friend in France, who was essentially excluded from an online course that she's been doing, because she wasn't vaccinated. So I mean, you began to see these things happen. And you say this, this really doesn't have anything to public health. And one of the most important points that I raised in this article back in April was that we don't know how safe or how effective these vaccines are. So to be using these sorts of systems, these sort of approaches, which are extremely coercive, to get people to take a vaccine whose efficacy and safety record we had no idea about just seemed very, very irresponsible. And we're beginning to see now the number one, they are not effective when it comes to stopping the transmission of this virus. If if they had been, we wouldn't have just been through the biggest wave of COVID-19, a year after the rollout of vaccines. I mean, any claim that they only night and the fact that Europe, the countries of the region of the world with the most vaccine passports per person. So the biggest waves is should be proof enough. Yeah. And now we're beginning to see more and more questions being asked about their safety record. So something Yes, it's it's something that I found. I think that what I was writing in the book, four or five months ago, was controversial at that time. Because, I mean, we were in the middle of the delta wave, and it seems like you know, they're still doing something. The vaccines are still doing something. But I mean, like after the Omicron wave, I mean, even public health officials in many, many different countries are saying, look, there's really no point to them. And we're beginning to see more and more of a withdrawal of these vaccines.

Dr. Paul  19:48  
So is Europe still using the vaccine passport?

Nick Corbishley  19:53  
No, that is a good question. It's like the Schrodinger cat. It isn't it isn't. It depends where you looking. So the the story we're being told is that it's being dramatically withdrawn, very quickly withdrawn. So I mean, even France, which is one of the worst countries in terms of lag when it comes to putting in place, draconian vaccine passport system. Today, it said that it's withdrawing almost all of its restrictions. And so in Spain, the country where I'm speaking from right now, most of the regions have abandoned vaccine passports, added them, you know, for domestic purposes. And this is, this is the story in more and more countries. So even Germany, Austria, has abandoned its vaccine mandate. And the day, I think it was a day before he was supposed to enforce it, they would have to enforce it. So I mean, like, we're seeing this kind of dramatic retreat. And that is the story we're being told. And it's a beautiful story, and we should be celebrating it. If only it were completely true. This is the catch. And we're being told the story, we kind of like being led down the garden path, because on the one hand, we're being told that this, we are going back to normal as they describe it. On the other hand, we are seeing big efforts being made to to make vaccine passports necessary for all forms of international travel. So you've got the World Health Organization, according to two or three different reports is preparing the ground for making it an official guideline. So I mean, the World Health Organization has been resisting this for over a year. It has been saying like, you know, vaccine passports are not justifiable, because they, you know, they increase discrimination segregation, inequality. And also because, and this is what they said in April last year, we don't know how effective they are. And ironically, now that we know that they are really not very effective at all. When it comes to stopping transmission. The World Health Organization is apparently according to political an article in Politico, which is a very respected publication. And they are they're on the verge of making this not net and not a requirement. But a guideline. I mean, the World Health Organization can only provide guidelines, right.

Dr. Paul  22:29  
But you can your books scanned you, you talk about digital surveillance, and I think there's a real potential for digital passports, right, right now, they're still paper, aren't they? Or are they already digital?

Nick Corbishley  22:42  
Oh, no, the the vaccine passports purely digital. There. You can have I mean, like the vaccine, passports or digital informed, but I mean, like they, they can be printed out. So if you want to go analog style, you can have a paper printout of your of the QR code, which allows you to continue accessing those things. But but the vaccine passports are 90 Wow, 98%. I imagine the vast majority of people are using it in through their mobile phone.

Dr. Paul  23:17  
So they'll, they'll have their cell phone and they'll just pop their QR code. And that's how they're going to move about. So I know, I interviewed United Airlines flight attendant about what was going on in China, and where they already have a digital surveillance system. It was a fascinating story of their Chinese guide in the market. Her face appeared on a major Billboard, and she you have lost such and such credit score, like instantaneous notification on her phone and on a billboard. She didn't even know what she had done to lose a social credit score. But it was just that story to me was like, wow, digital surveillance is is very invasive, and perhaps it's coming to a place near you.

Nick Corbishley  24:09  
Well, I mean, to an extent we were already there some infant extent we are you know, we are exposed through very, very, what should we say very broad forms of digital surveillance to our mobile phones. You know, we, the largest tech fund companies know a heck of a lot about what we do. And they they sell that data on to third party companies all the time. So, so in a sense, we've given up a large part of our privacy, but this is kind of happening in a in a kind of overt fashion. In a covert fashion. It's not something we've necessarily signed up to. It's not something that is official policy as such. So this is a scary thing where you have vaccine passports and kind of like, you know, the ultimate iteration of all that Since the digital identity, you are essentially you're making this overt, it is part of basic the way we live. And it's perfectly correct and right. So I mean, from that moment on, it stops being something that's covert and become something that is completely official, completely over completely accepted. And once you're in that position, it's really hard to kind of come back from it, because it's a little bit like you were saying, in the case with China. You know, in China, the this social credit system is not completely 100% operational in the sense that it's not, it's not up all over the country, it's, it's still kind of like being being used in large parts, large geographic areas. But it's not completely complete yet. But when you look at how they're able to the goal is to create model citizens to encourage people to behave well. Which sounds nice,

Dr. Paul  26:02  
according to someone. Yeah, well,

Nick Corbishley  26:04  
this is where yeah, this is the top part. So I mean, most people can kind of agree that if you know, if you take your dog out for a walk, and your dog does his business, in the middle of the pavement, where everybody's going to walk, and you just walk away from that, and you leave that little pile of dog poo or whatever, then that is not socially good behavior. And a lot of people, most people will say, Well, you know, if there's a little bit of a slap on the wrist for doing something like that, then that's understandable as and people might say the same about going through red lights. So I mean, like, there are a lot of things that people would accept, in terms of, you know, this is socially undesirable, maybe we could have, the problem is when you enter the political area, the problem is when you start talking about what people are talking about, what people are thinking, what information they're sharing, what company, what kind of company they're keeping. So one of the dark elements is if you have to imagine like a world in the future, which you've seen, kind of like through the Black Mirror series, you know, just simply being with somebody who has a very low social credit score, could end up affecting your own social credit score. So creates this, this coercive element, which forces us to kind of like stop associating with certain people. But I mean, it's, I think he goes beyond the surveillance, the surveillance is a dark element of this. But for me, the scariest element of digital identity, the scariest element of vaccine passports, is the ability to coerce people to do certain things. So it's, you know, it's forced compliance is how I put it. And it's that is that is the really chilling element here. Yeah, because what you're doing is you're using technologies to, to push people into certain behaviors and away from other behaviors, as we've seen recently, for example, in Canada with the the freezing of bank accounts of anybody, theoretically, anybody who donates money, not just people who participate in this protest movement in the freedom convoy protest movement, the people who just donated a little bit, a bit of money. That is terrifying. If you didn't happen in Putin's Russia. If you did happen in Maduros, Venezuela, it would have been on the front pages of every single newspaper, because it happened in true those Canada. We did not hear about it. It's unbelievable. Actually, in Spain, we it was not in the news. Yeah. So

Dr. Paul  28:46  
Ty, this is a good segue into another topic in your book, which is, I think, maybe most disturbing to me is the digital currency move, and how that ties into all of this.

Nick Corbishley  28:59  
Okay, so, I mean, this is something that, again, is not getting the attention it deserves, is something that is absolutely clearly happening, because we've got 87 central banks on planet Earth, which is roughly half of all the central banks. And these these encompass all of the major central banks. They are all experimenting with digital currencies will work with Central Bank digital currencies CBDCs. And this would essentially be this would allow each person in each country to have a bank account of sorts with the Central Bank, which may sound cool and it will be like the, the digital currency will be on parity with the real currency. But it will be it will function almost like a kind of token In system, and the scary thing, I mean, there are lots of scary things about this. Number one, you need a digital identity in order to get the system set up. So I mean, there's an article in the Financial Times, going back all the way to May, I think, where they're citing bankers from Goldman Sachs. And they're saying that, in order for central bank digital currencies to exist, we need to have everybody in the country with digital identity. So for one thing to happen, the other must happen. So that's one thing that should concern us enormously. The second thing that should concern us enormously is, is the fact that these digital currencies will allow central banks to track just about every well, not just about every single transaction we make, they will be able to follow it. I mean, like this was even admitted by the President of the Bank of International Settlements, which is the bank that the Central bank of Central banks. And, and he basically said, you know, when when somebody spends something I'm paraphrasing here, but when somebody spends 1000, best offs in Mexico, when somebody spends $100, in in United States, we don't know where that money goes, we don't know what it is spent on. But when somebody spends $100 of the digital dollars, we will know exactly where that money goes. So it's the perfect means of tracking and tracing. But it goes beyond that. I mean, like they're talking about programmable currencies. So they're talking about creating a system where they will be able to decide what people can spend their money on. And it's kind of it's not out in the open in the sense that it's on the front pages of every newspaper as it should be. This is an occasional articles, like there was an article in Daily Telegraph in the UK, something like six, seven months ago. And it was just that I mean, they were just saying, like, we have to ask whether or not we want our currency to be programmable to be able to decide what people should be able to spend the money on or not. If maybe they've got certain weight issues, wherever they're not, they're allowed to be able to buy certain foods that are going to not going to help their weight issues. If they've got if they drink quite a lot of alcohol, maybe we can we can control how much and so I mean, it's in these guys. But I mean, like the terrifying thing is just the amount of power that gives to institutions, central banks that have already amassed huge, huge amounts of kind of unaccountable power over the economy in the last 20 years. And I mean, that is truly terrible, terrifying prospect. The other thing that really scares me, I mean, there are two other things. I mean, I have to go into quite some detail here. But I mean, like, in order for it to function, it would mean the end of cash. I think this is really important to realize, I mean, cash. I mean, like, they would probably phase it out. And they would be able to do that by making it harder and harder to use cash. So they would have I imagine what I'm only speculating here, but I imagine what they would do is they would they would create incentives to use the digital money and pay what would

Dr. Paul  33:21  
happen with the other like Bitcoin kind of digital currencies? What goes what happens with those?

Nick Corbishley  33:29  
Well, I mean, I, again, I would not be able to say with with total clarity, but if you look at what has happened in the last year or two, it's gonna get harder and harder to trade these these cryptocurrencies I imagine the ones central banks have their own digital currencies in place, they are not likely to, to want to have too much competition. And so I imagined that we're going to see more and more regulatory pressures on the use of these cryptocurrencies. Which thing but I mean, like, that is something that I think is really important because it's like almost a final bastion of privacy is our final bastion of freedom to certain extent, it is just the ability to use cash, to pay for things without having a record, to be able to, to pay for things without having an intermediary in place. And, and to decide how you want to spend your money to have your own money. To me, one of the weird things that people don't realize is that when we go fully digital, you will never be able to say look, I want to have hold of my own money. Your money will always be in some digital account somewhere it will be moving between digital accounts. Yeah, but you will never be able to have your own

Dr. Paul  34:56  
knowing what they did to the Canadians who Just wanted to protest they can freeze your money.

Nick Corbishley  35:03  
Mm hmm. That is kind of like the, that is the extreme. That is the ultimate. But they've shown already, it's like they've already shown their hand, which I found incredible to go that far, because but this is what's incredible, really, when you think about it, that moves if that had been reported properly in the press, we will be having a dialogue, a conversation, not just in the alternative media, but in the mainstream media about the risks of digital identity and central bank digital currencies, that's not happening. Because the media, unfortunately, are not doing their job of keeping people abreast of what is happening.

Dr. Paul  35:47  
They seem to not seem they clearly are not allowed to touch certain topics.

Nick Corbishley  35:53  
Yes. And I think the, you know, were the Canadian story, they were allowed to cover the Canadian story in certain ways, especially if it involved demonizing the chakras. They were they were very much, you know, free to do that. But, but yeah, I mean, when it came to that big, the big move that today's government took, which was to, to give the banks these power to freeze bank accounts, with no due process, and no recourse. I mean, it's terrifying. Yeah, it's Yeah.

Dr. Paul  36:34  
you allude today? Is this is the vase that these Uber wealthy meet? Who wants this? Who wants this digital currency, this digital world this control?

Nick Corbishley  36:49  
Well, I mean, I think that I mean, one organization that clearly wants it, because it has spent the last four or five years explicitly stating that it wants this is the World Economic Forum. And that that is clear as day it. It's founder, Klaus Schwab has written his book about called the Great reset, which is all about transforming. And, you know, he talks a lot about the fourth industrial revolution, which is about transforming the world into this totally interconnected digital utopia. And, and, you know, we're we've gone a long way there, I mean, we've gone through, probably something like 10 to 15 years of digital evolution in the space of two years. This is what you know, the pandemic and the the lock downs, and all the other things that the pandemic has induced. This is what that is that is allowed is enabled this huge transformation that you could argue was going to take place. And that there's certainly an argument that we were moving in that direction, that the question is, is whether or not we would have gone so fast as well as we have in the last few years. We certainly wouldn't. And if you're going through this sort of process, slowly, you're more likely to get questions, and you're more likely to get the bait forming. And I think that this is really important in the UK. In the first, I think it was like in between 2005 2008 2009, the British government under Tony Blair, and Gordon Brown desperately wanted to get identity cards set up in the UK. And I think there was going to be a digital element to this. And there was a long debate about this, there was a big public debate. And eventually it was voted down, and people clearly didn't want it. And this is what happens when things happen slowly, and almost in a natural evolution. But when things happen really, really quickly, in a kind of like emergency scenario responding

Dr. Paul  38:57  
to fear. Yeah,

Nick Corbishley  38:59  
I mean, you don't get those debates. Yeah. And you know, people are a lot of time people don't even know where these things are happening until they've happened. And so I mean, certainly the World Economic Forum's, I mean, all the comments for him for those of your listeners who, who are not aware of this organization. I mean, it's, it's been around for about 50 years. It represents the interests of 6700 of the largest corporations on the planet, corporations, banks, Wall Street's funds. I mean, it's, it's an enormous organization. And it's an enormously influential I mean, we're talking about an organization that is able to shape to a certain degree economic and financial trends and developments around the world has been doing so for the last 40 years. But its its influence has grown larger and larger. What what we didn't realize is the extent to which it has been influencing our governments. And that is beginning to come out now. And this is really important. Yeah, I mean, when we vote for our, in the US who be your congressman or Congresswoman, your senators, when you vote for your representatives, you think that they are representing you, you think that they are representing the local constituency. And, and when those same representatives begin to show potential to go to scale the system to get higher in within the party, whether it's Democrat or Republican, then maybe what happens is they suddenly get an invitation to go on the the World Economic Forum's Young Global Leaders Program. And that's where you start to say, this is what we are not aware of, or we were not aware of, until very recently. And you know, you've got some very, very important people in very, very high levels of government that have been through this, this this program, it's almost like they're grooming our levers.

Dr. Paul  41:13  
Maybe your next book is exposing all the people who have gone through that program.

Nick Corbishley  41:18  
Well, I mean, it's certainly something if I'd had more time, I had a pretty tight deadline with this book, because this there was such an urgency to getting it out. Yeah, things are happening fast. Things are happening so fast, Pamela, in the case of the Trudeau Government, Klaus Schwab, the leader of the World Economic Forum, he boasted in 2017, that he was very happy to see that more than half of his cabinet, more than half of his ministers had been through the junk law police program. So something like that is that is not being disclosed by our representatives. Yeah, we need to know this. We need to know whether or not they're going through these sort of programs.

Dr. Paul  42:03  
I agree. Yeah. So there's your next project. As we get to as we get to wrapping this up, what's your glimpse of the future?

Nick Corbishley  42:15  
I mean, I may sound pretty bleak. But I'm actually a bit of an optimist. I think that I think there's cause for optimism. I think that clearly there are huge steps afoot to radically change the way our our societies function and the way our lives play out. But I think more and more people are beginning to realize what is happening, there is a kind of awakening. I think that a lot of people have had two shots of the vaccine. And in the last three months, I've had COVID-19. Thanks to all McCrone, and those people who were on board with what was going on, more or less, maybe not overly enthusiastic, but they were they were going along with it. Now, they've been told they need to take a 30 booster shot. And Pfizer CEO came out I think today or yesterday saying that well, actually we need it needs to be for. And I think we're beginning to get more questioning whether or not this is desirable, whether this is a good thing. So I think that there's we're beginning to see a certain amount of resistance, a certain amount of opposition growing to that. But But yeah, I do think that time is running out, we have limited time that they're not going to stop. They're not going to slow things down. If anything, they're accelerating. Yeah. So I mean, like the UK Government, the Canadian government, Australian Government. I mean, you can look around the world, there are 1000s and 1000s of countries that are launching digital identity programs, even as they're telling that the voters they're public, that you know, we're withdrawing the vaccine passport, so, so they're doubling down as quickly as they can. So it's I think, if we have any chance of stopping this, then it's we need to be exceptionally vigilant. And we need to share information as much as possible. I mean, one reason would give me hope is that we've had moments like this before in the past. So we've had the SOPA Act, which was going back around about a decade when they wanted to change the way the internet functioned. And there was a huge public backlash. And that was they managed to stop that. We also had like the trade agreements, the TPP, that T tip Tisa, and I remember writing about these in 2013 2014 may seem like a foregone conclusion. These were the biggest companies on the planet trying to completely transform the way the trading system worked the way our economies function and There was a problem. The problem was, Donald Trump got got elected in 2016. Now, I'm not I'm not a massive fan of Donald Trump, but one thing he did, which really annoyed the establishment, the business financial tech establishment was to say no more TPP mean, that was like years and years in the making, and just like with one wave of the hand, not gonna happen. So I think that, you know, if if history has taught us anything, you know, if you can mobilize enough people, if you can reach kind of like, the sweet point, then you can start this as if people fail. But we need to reach that kind of like that optimal level.

Dr. Paul  45:46  
Absolutely, Nick, Well, folks, get a copy of the book scanned, get yourself informed mobilize, Nick, you're leading a very important charge of getting important information out to the world where can people find your book?

Nick Corbishley  46:00  
And they can found find it on Amazon? They can find that on the publishers website, which is Chelsea green.com. This is a brilliant publisher is it's in Vermont, like it's not it's not a huge publisher is willing to go where most publishers won't. Yep, and most self respecting book shops as a Thursday.

Dr. Paul  46:26  
Wonderful. Your final thoughts, you get the last word.

Nick Corbishley  46:33  
My final thoughts. I think the most important things in moments like this, which are moments of crazy turbulence, where you've got crisis upon crisis upon crisis happening, and the most important thing is to maintain our humanity and not allow those who want to divide us to divide us. Beautiful. Okay, thank you, Nick. Thank you. It's been a pleasure.

Dr. Paul  47:17  
Welcome burn that pager to against the wind backs and science under fire. It is always a pleasure to have you on the show. You are the Public Policy Director of informed life. Washington informed choice Washington and you are the host of an informed life radio. Yeah. What you are thinking about bringing to us today is something I've been wanting to talk about. And there's nobody better to talk about it than with you. The need for us to change the narrative, flip the system away from fear of disease, and really start realizing that our own natural immunity is so vital, right? And so I'm eager to have you kick us off with something that is absolutely alarming.

Bernadette Pajer  47:56  
Yes, exactly. So we will start with his article that just appeared March 22 2022. In fierce pharma, the first biotech division of yours, pharma, I do recommend individuals subscribe to this, you get insider information that you need to know about. So Maderna is going to be using mRNA technology, which we've seen to be dangerous to make a triple Vax that aims at the common cold are SV and COVID. So you know what could go wrong here? So really what I wanted to talk to you about today, Dr. Paul, have, even if they could achieve this safely? Is this a good idea to unnaturally interrupt the immune process? Let's talk about that.

Dr. Paul  48:56  
Let's talk about that. So Bernadette, I think, you know, I travel the country speaking at big health conferences and freedom conferences, and my main topic is revealing presenting the vaccine unpacks data. And the conclusion that comes when you look at all the well done studies that actually have unvaccinated patients in them so they're truly have a placebo group, the alarming number of chronic diseases that are occurring in the vaccinated when you compare them to the unvaccinated and the powerful significance of that data, it is just overwhelmingly clear that what we do when we vaccinate is we shift the immune system towards allergy and auto immunity and we create chronic disease. So this idea that we're going to vaccinate ourselves out of every possible pathogen. Every time we add more and more vaccines, we create a greater problem.

Bernadette Pajer  49:50  
Yeah, exactly. I had I was driving down the freeway on my way to Nashville here in Tennessee the other day and I had an aha moment. They had a new story about a new vaccine For dog allergies, so and they were describing as you get a little bit of this protein that they think drives most of the dog allergies, and it trains your immune system not to respond to that protein. And it was just a different way of seeing and explaining. And I realized, you know, one of the reasons why we have such huge unintended health consequences to vaccination, is that very fact the fact that if you're getting an injection of a protein, it does train your immune system not to have a full reaction to it. In the case of a pathogen, it means your immune system never develops a full immune response to fully clear that pathogen. And you're training your immune system, not to properly respond. right not to properly clear viruses and, and those first few years of life are absolutely critical to train your immune system, how to respond to the microbial world to know what's friendly and what's not friendly, right.

Dr. Paul  51:05  
Yeah. Yeah, I think neither of us are necessarily anti vaccine. As far as the concept. If you could develop a way that safely helped a person's immune system just get a natural response to something that was dangerous, and it was safe. I'm sure we'd be all for it, we'd be lining up. I mean, well, I

Bernadette Pajer  51:25  
was gonna say, except for what we have learned the unintended consequences of skewing the immune system to not have that full response. Right. So I'm, I'm more and more moving, the more I understand how the immune system works, and how shots try to trick the immune system into not doing fully what it needs to do. I move more toward being terrain theory, strengthen the individual immune system, and then allow it to fully exercise itself and develop that acquired immunity. So I hate to say it Dr. Pol. But I'm, you know, I'm really fully embracing vaccines is not being healthy immunity of the future. That's

Dr. Paul  52:07  
yeah, we that concept. Yeah, we don't have a process in the vaccine manufacturing pipeline. Nowhere is there a process that's really looking out for exactly what we're starting to talk about. So I was talking in theory, it could be a great idea. It has not proven to be we are finding every single time they bring a new vaccine to market, it seems that we have greater and greater problems, not not fewer and fewer than the magnitude of the chronic illness that we're creating. I mean, just that dog vaccine idea you had, basically they're creating an immunosuppressed state. Well, what could possibly go wrong with that? We've seen that with the COVID-19 jabs, the mRNA technology, which which is just making people at such higher greater risk for cancer, because the immune system is just shutting down.

Bernadette Pajer  52:56  
Exactly, exactly. So if people want to learn or read more about sort of this whole philosophy of health that we're talking about, there is a post on informed twist, Washington's website called perfectly designed from 2019. And it it it's still fairly current, even though it's several years old, that talks about, you know, the your immune system at birth, and why we're designed to need our mother's protection at birth, that passive immunity from the mother, and how if if the infant was born able to, to respond to all pathogens, because everything is so new, and they have not yet populated their biome, that they would end up in this inflammatory state, which would be unbearable, right? So I encourage people to go look for that if you go to the Informed Choice Washington website, just search for the word perfectly, or perfectly designed, and you will, you will find that article. And I feel like that's where we need to go. All of medicine needs to fully respect how our immune systems work, and disease is not your enemy. Our immune systems need a workout they need to that's how they mature.

Dr. Paul  54:15  
Yeah, think folks about a baby in the womb and you know, in the womb is debatable whether it's completely sterile or not. But basically, you're not swimming in a soup of pathogens, a baby is born pretty naive to all these trillions of organisms that will very quickly populate every orifice of your body, your skin, and that's what we call the biome or the microbiome, and this is actually living part of our immune system. We need a healthy microbiome, those of us who deal with chronic conditions, those of us who try to heal people who've had injury, basically health problems that have developed from vaccines or toxins in the world. Our number one, hands down, talk to any natural functional medicine Dr. Integrative, complementary alternative, whatever you want to call it, people who really deal with chronic illness, we deal with the microbiome first heal the gut. So this article covers something so beautifully. Baby in the bathwater, right? So that little section, find it. C sections prevent the baby from going through the birth canal, where they get their first inoculation of good healthy bacteria that start the biome. Babies are being washed too soon, hospitals are getting better at that they'll wait a day sometimes now. But you remove all that covering that helps them get a healthy microbiome. Early formula feeding doesn't help vaccination for sure I cover this when I travel around the country, it is shifting, skewing the immune system towards allergy autoimmunity and chronic disease, and then glyphosate and other toxins in the environment. I mean, it's just such a hit, that's preventing that natural development of immunity that, you know, we have a God given system. That's absolutely amazing. And this thought that we as man can kind of tinker with it, especially now, when you're getting into this mRNA technology. There's a certain level of insanity, wouldn't you say?

Bernadette Pajer  56:12  
Exactly. And, and highly profitable insanity, because of the the way it's structured, and the way our public health and our governmental entities have embraced these as their tools. So they minimize risk. And they never look at unintended consequences, you know, they don't look at long term outcomes. And your study is so brilliant in showing that, hey, we need to stop and actually look at this. And so what as they were doing or doing with COVID, we need to look at what causes severe disease, not fear disease, what causes severe disease, and for those who need that extra help, if you know what treatments are available for what's going around to help your immune system, because when you emerge after a disease experience, if you're in if you're in beautiful health, you have almost no symptoms when you experience disease, but your immune system gets beautifully trained and develops memory. If you're in less good health, you might have some more symptoms in which you need these treatments that are available. But anytime the industry targets a disease with a vaccine treatments get pushed aside, and they act as if it's deadly unless you're vaccinated, which is just absurd.

Dr. Paul  57:27  
Yeah, it's actually backwards. So natural immunity from having had an infection, have your whole entire immune system, both arms of the immune system, the innate and the antibody producing side, interact, if they need to, you are left with a very comprehensive level of protection as opposed to a very narrow level of protection. We've certainly seen that with the COVID-19 vaccines, you don't have an immune system that recognizes the entire virus sequence. So those who have recovered from natural infection have this robust immunity that's much longer lasting, sometimes lifelong, often lifelong. Unlike vaccine induced immunity, where learning is like, you're lucky if you've got three months of partial protection. So this is huge folks. This this massive push towards we've got a vaccine for everything. I mean, the common cold, come on Maderna. Wow, this profit grab,

Bernadette Pajer  58:22  
can you imagine then how many? How many jabs a year? Are they thinking of getting in the human population? I mean, and it could just be it's just fail in horrific ways of undermining our ability to fend off everything, right? Yeah, very alarming.

Dr. Paul  58:39  
It's super alarming. Folks, if you haven't gone to the control group.org. Go check that out. This was an independently done study, comparing basically looking at those in 48 of the 50 states in the United States who have never been touched by a single vaccine. And you look at their health outcomes. It is mind blowing, no cancer, no heart disease, no diabetes, no ATD ADHD, what? Like unvaccinated people are so incredibly healthy. I've seen the same thing in my practice. That's why I finally had to write that book, The vaccine friendly plan, which isn't friendly enough. By the way, it's a starting point for people who are still thinking you should follow the CDC schedule. I'm not giving vaccine recommendations here. We're just sharing ideas. It is really important, folks, if you haven't woken up to the fact that it's on us. We the individuals have to now take charge of our own health. We cannot trust the captured agencies, public health, CDC, all the government agencies have been completely captured by pharma money. And so they're just basically putting out propaganda not science.

Bernadette Pajer  59:45  
Exactly. You nailed that. So we need everybody to be the news, meaning you spread this good information. Knowledge is power, and the more people who choose this real health paradigm, which aligns with current Aren't science and with your God given immunity, they go beautifully together, you know, the and then stops feeding the monster of the pharmaceutical industry, yeah, then we can be the change we need, we need to be

Dr. Paul  1:00:17  
right. And of course, folks, if you're not aware of the fact that censorship is happening at a massive level, then you're just hearing. We follow the science from the likes of people like Fauci and people who are so conflicted, and they're just perpetrating a atrocities on humanity, basically, in the name of science, but they're only giving you this little piece of junk science and the massive amount of amazing data that those like Bernadette and I and Dell big tree in the high wire and the Children's Health defense, so much amazing information, I'm just touching on a long list. Have a great week.

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