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​Dr. Paul  0:00  
Welcome to against the wind doctors in science under fire. I'm Dr. Paul, your host. Today's show, I want to make a special welcome to children's health defense TV viewers. Also, of course, we are so grateful to all of you who have been with us from the beginning, at against the wind. Today's show, we bring back Dr. Henry Ely. He is such an expert on COVID-19 and all the science around that. And he's going to go through some of the most important things you need to know to make good decisions, along with touching on something that's hitting a lot of us right at home. And that is how to deal with employer mandates. We then present to you the entire live rally at the Medical freedom in front of the Capitol here in Salem, Oregon. Talk was done by Luke Yamaguchi. And boy did he hit this one home, you're not gonna want to miss it because he really talks about what you need to know, to protect your own medical freedom and freedom in general. And then of course, we end with Bernadette, who today is trying something different. She and I are going to talk about how do we communicate with our loved ones. This is something I've struggled with whether it whether it be with my employees or family members. How do we do that in a way that's loving kind and is not alienating. And then finally, I want to say those of you who may not be aware of this, you can now join a live q&a with me yours truly, Dr. Paul, right here after the show. It's either immediately after the show or an hour after the show depending on where you are. But go to the members area become a member of against the wind. And I'll see you at the q&a. Enjoy the show.

Dr. Paul, coming to you from the heart. Today, my topic is censorship and the potential killing of science. There's a statement that came out that just doesn't sit well with my soul with my heart. This is my coming to you from my inner being. And I want to share this with you. This is the joint statement from the American Board of family medicine, the American Board of Internal Medicine, and the American Board of Pediatrics on the dissemination of misinformation by board certified physicians about COVID-19. Let me read the statement to you that just came out. The Federation of State medical boards Fs MB, which supports its member state medical licensing boards, has recently issued a statement saying that providing misinformation about the COVID-19 vaccine contradicts physicians, ethical and professional responsibilities, and therefore may subject a physician to disciplinary actions, including suspension or revocation of their medical license. We at the Board of family medicine, the American Board of Internal Medicine and the American Board of Pediatrics support FSM B's position. We also want all physicians certified by our boards to know that such unethical or unprofessional conduct may prompt their respective Board to take action that could put their certification at risk. Well, Dr. Warren Newton, President and CEO of the American Board of Family Medicine, Dr. Richard Barron, President and CEO of the American Board of Internal Medicine, and Dr. David Nicholls, President and CEO of the American Board of Pediatrics. This statement to me is simply an attempt to shut down scientific dialogue to shut down scientific inquiry. And honestly, it has no place in science or in medicine, to threaten physicians with their actual livelihood and their board certification for disseminating what you are calling misinformation is simply unscientific. Science is never settled. scientific inquiry is an ongoing investigation. And when it comes to a brand new disease never seen before by humankind, this COVID 19 caused by SARS cov. Two and brand new vaccines that weren't tested on children or pregnant women that excluded all high risk categories and that have had no long term safety testing that are still in trial to declare that any physician who is bringing forth peer reviewed information for example, or really any clinical information that might would be a value to declare that Miss Information is simply unscientific. So I really ask all of you who are based in science, to put an end to this attempt to muzzle good doctors, good scientists who are simply trying to get information out there, and to have a dialogue with us. This is what good science is all about. Thanks for your attention. I'm Dr. Paul.

Luke Yamaguchi  5:34  
I want to thank you all for coming out today. Looks like we've got some good weather a break in the rain. So that's fantastic. As introduced My name is Luke Yamaguchi. I'm a functional nutritionist actually just moved to Albany, Oregon, but it's close enough, so doesn't matter. And I'm now on the board of directors for Oregonians for medical freedom. So tell you just a little bit about that organization Oregonians for medical freedom is a volunteer run nonprofit organization that was founded in 2015. To defend our rights to bodily autonomy and informed consent. Our mission is threefold to protect vaccine exemptions, to promote informed consent rights and to preserve medical privacy. But we need your help, because we currently find ourselves in unprecedented times. As you're all likely aware, Kate Brown has recently issued a slew of vaccine mandates and facemask IIDX. First, she mandated masks for schoolchildren, K through 12. Then for all indoor establishments, and more recently for all outdoor public spaces statewide. Furthermore, Governor Brown mandated vaccines, the COVID vaccine for state employees, for teachers and staff K through 12. And for healthcare workers across the state. It should go without saying that mandated medicine has no place in a free country.

Even if you happen to agree with mandatory COVID vaccines this time around, who is to say that you will necessarily agree with the next vaccine that's mandated?

So we need to understand that mandated medicine is an extremely slippery slope that presents a grave and dangerous precedent. And speaking of precedents, President Joe Biden and Tony Fauci was recently reported in the news that they were talking about requiring COVID vaccine booster shots every five or six months. So if you've received a COVID vaccine, the question you need to ask yourself is are you willing to receive another booster shot every six months for the rest of your life because that's where this is heading. Every year, there's going to be a new variants of COVID, whether it's the delta for the gamma or the lambda for vo omega. And if we have vaccine mandates, that means you have to get that booster shot every six months in order to keep your job. And if we get vaccine passports in Oregon, like we already have in Israel and France and other countries around the world. That means if you don't get your COVID booster shot every six months to a vaccine, passport expires. And then you don't get to go out to eat at a restaurant. You don't get to go to the movie theater. You can go to a concert, but a sports game. You have become a second class citizen because you did not subject yourself to a medical intervention that makes pharmaceutical companies billions of dollars

Unknown Speaker  10:02  
And just to be clear, vaccines are liability free pharmaceutical products. Because our government has given them indemnification. So for vaccine injuries, you are a loved one, where if God forbid someone dies after a vaccine, you're on your own. You can't sue for damages. There's no way they have complete liability protection. Sorry, let me get my notes here. So we're on the verge of a situation where we have big pharma, working in collusion with the governments to mandate a liability free pharmaceutical product on the masses, I couldn't think of a better business model. But I also can't think of anything worse for free people.

Luke Yamaguchi  10:59  
So this is a non partisan events. But I'm gonna get just a little bit political. So one of the great ironies of the situation we find ourselves in is that the mandatory vaccine agenda is being pushed largely by Democrats, like President Joe Biden, and Governor Kate Brown. And I thought the Democrats were supposed to be the people who will looking out for minority groups. But you know, what? One of the most vaccine hesitant groups in America is African Americans. Why is that? There's only about 40% of black people in the United States have received the COVID vaccine. And that might have something to do with a historical tragedy, known as the Tuskegee experiments. And the Tuskegee experiment is where black people who had syphilis were refused treatment, so that people in power could observe what happened to them as their disease progressed. And if Syphilis is left untreated, it can be deadly. Oh, yeah. So African Americans died due to blatant medical malpractice. Our government did that. The CDC did that. And now our governor is saying that if people of color don't get the COVID vaccine, for they can't work for the state. They can't teach at a school. They can't be a health care worker. mandatory vaccine policies epitomize institutional racism, because they disproportionately negatively impact black and brown people. And if we allow that to happen, and what's next? Are we going to put unvaccinated people into internment camps in the name of protecting the public health? Because, you know, my people have been put into accounts once already. So I think we need to be very critical of policies that promote discrimination and segregation, to learn from history, so we can avoid repeating historical atrocities of the past.

Now, having said all that, I think the strategy being used against us by people in power is divide and conquer. We need to be aware of that. So I think that for us, as activists, and advocates for medical freedom, the time has come for us to set aside our differences, whatever they may be, differences of race, differences of religion, different political affiliations, differences of vaccination status. It's time for us to come together as one people who voted for medical freedom.

Dr. Paul  14:40  
Well, welcome to against the wind. It is a pleasure to have Dr. H back you are the executive committee director of the Energetic Health Institute and so much more. And I am very excited to share with our audience the amazing information you have, I thought we might start, if you will. We've got prevention strategies, and Early Intervention, and then we can kind of go into employer mandates. I know you've put together some really great stuff on that. But welcome to against the wind. Dr. Ely. And what a pleasure to have you back.

Dr. Henry Ealy  15:14  
Well, Dr. Paul, thank you so much for having me again. And it's really a pleasure to be here. So let's jump in what we've been doing, we've been getting some really good questions. And I think what I'm trying to do is and I will come back to this one. But what I've been trying to do is arrange an easy place where people can get this information and where we can have it in one one spot. So I would encourage people to go to COVID con 20 one.com, that's COVID con 20 one.com. It's a new website that we've put together where we're going to start sharing a lot of great presentations, and a lot of really great information. But there's also another place you can go and that's going to be on the America outloud network, where we have this particular article hosted right now, empirical evidence for preventative strategies. So a lot of people Dr. Baum sure you get this question all the time, what should I be taking? And how much right that's that's cut to the chase? Well, well, we know from the enhanced studies, and we've talked about this before, that Americans are significantly deficient in key immunological nutrients, vitamin D, vitamin C, vitamin A zinc, and also vitamin E, which can help cut down on some of the I think postinoculation injuries associated with cardiovascular events as well. But look at these numbers right here. And they just tell it very clear till 65 to 95% of Americans are deficient in vitamin D, it's not an accident that that's a crucial nutrient to put in. So we did a lot of research and, and this is all covered in our peer reviewed paper that was published in March. We have some additional links in here for immunity in depth and other things. But and here's a link to our paper right here. So you can get a lot here. Again, that's America outloud network, and you can just go to our you can go to our team, and you can click on Dr. Henry Ely, and it'll take you right to this page. Fantastic. So we have here is pretty much laid out, you know, for ages 13. And up, you know, including adults and seniors, we are saying vitamin A 5000 hours a day, we're recommending the beta carotene form, vitamin C 3000 to 5000 milligrams a day, vitamin d3 10,000, I use for 14 days to load it up into your bloodstream. And then 5000 I use after Vitamin E 200 to 600 I use and buy and zinc 25 to 40 milligrams now. And for anybody that's been following the work of doctors Alenko, who's done a great job with some research, he's been very clear that we are going to need to have a zinc ion for the key. What is that we zinc is very hard to get into the cell. And what zinc does when it's in the cell is it turns on specific, a very specific anti viral enzyme. So it blocks viral replication if you do get infected, so it makes it very important, but it's getting it into the cell. That's a trick. And that's where we have to have a zinc ion a four to push it in. And that's something that hydroxychloroquine does very well. It's also something actually ivermectin does a little bit of, but if you can't get those things, and those are hard to come by these days, you can use quercetin you can also use green tea, and to help get that zinc into the cell. Now what gets really exciting, is some people will shy take quercetin and supplement or is there a Can I get it in foods, you can get a therapeutic amount in foods as well frozen organic blueberries to make smoothies with onions and even Dr. Paul capers. Capers have a high content of quercetin. So there's ways in the plant world to get Corsten in to help push that zinc into the cell. So if somebody had a blueberry smoothie, for example, where and was eating pumpkin seeds throughout the day, well, you're going to get that zinc into the cell, the blueberries have the question and the zinc is in the pumpkin seeds. You're going to get that in so there's some ways to do it. But for vitamin D and these were we are recommending supplementation. As you can see, we have it for the five to 12 age range. We have recommendations for the one to four age range as well and article. And then we have some additional information on a great study from UCSD University of California, San Diego, that worked in collaboration with the Salk Institute to show that l arginine, and in acetyl cysteine and phospho Titel. Choline are incredible at helping prevent damage to the cardiovascular system from either the based upon the spike protein. So whether you were infected or whether it's postinoculation. These are great things to put in. A lot of people are having trouble getting an acetyl cysteine. Now surprise, right. You have to have to have a prescription to get it from what we're hearing. So what we advocate is that people go right down here liposomal glutathione get liposomal glutathione it is the actual in your body. What happens in the body, Dr. Paul is that it's really cool. I love the body. It's so amazing. When you take an acetyl cysteine into your body, your body is specifically your liver will convert it into a a tripeptide called glutathione. So our body actually makes any oxidants. But if you're trying to get NAC into the system and NAC is fantastic, just like glutathione is especially for respiratory issues because what NAC does in the body, its mechanism action is it thins out mucous. So let's say you're you've contracted the virus and you're having some respiratory issues, trouble breathing, NAC glutathione, they can both help thin out the mucus. So you can expect rate so you can cough it up and spit it out and open up your airways. And you know, and then in this same article, when you scroll down, we have and we have some data in this article from bears and stuff like that. But when you when you go down, scroll down a little bit. And there's a lot in here you can see we I I'm not brief, I guess is what I'm trying to tell everybody's I'm not brief. There's links on how to get exemption forms. And we have a whole bunch of them in here and information. But one of the things we've been advocating for people to do and a basic strategy to is if your employer is attempting to mandate the inoculation, simple strategy of send your send your jobs in the HR through email 15 questions or more, that they have to answer. When your job attempts to mandate something, they as the arbiter of the mandate now are required to fulfill informed consent. Informed consent cannot be fulfilled until they have answered every question that you have. So send him 15 questions that we've already put together in this article. And via email forced them to answer when they can't answer them, then submit your religious exemption, because now you are going to be protected. It's in our opinion, and I'm not an attorney. But at our opinion, you are then going to be protected by the equal opportunity employment Commission's some are ruling, and Title Seven, which is basically based upon the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which says that you cannot discriminate against a person based upon race, and there must be equal accommodation in the workplace for those folks. So that means you are protecting your right to have a belief. And we've had Dr. Pol people say, well, but I'm not really religious. That's not what a religious exemption is. It doesn't matter what faith you are. Yep.

Dr. Paul  22:46  
It doesn't even matter. If you've gotten vaccines in the past, you are allowed to have the freedom to change your religion to change your philosophy and to change your beliefs at any time.

Dr. Henry Ealy  22:58  
Exactly. Right. And I believe the legal standard is, it's just a strongly held personal belief. And you are not required to prove what that belief is, or answer any questions on it. That's that's the protections you have under the religious exemption. So we have 15 questions here, I won't read them all, you can read them. But if I was in a situation where my actually they put a 16, one in here, somebody added one in force. If I was put in this position, where my employer was demanding that I get inoculated or I lose my job my paycheck, I would say I would follow this process, I'm going to send them questions to force them to satisfy informed consent. When they can't answer all those questions, I then am going to submit my religious exemption and tell them point blank that if you attempt to discriminate against me, if you attempt to create a hostile work environment, if you attempt to fire me, we will look at that as a violation of Title Seven. And I will be taking you to court on anti discrimination grounds and I will hold the line on that. One of the things I think that's really important, Dr. Pol, is for people to ask about financial conflicts of interest. And that's what we do here in the first question. So yeah, hopefully that answers some of that.

Dr. Paul  24:09  
Yeah, I would highlight in and you shared this in this document, but most important of all folks do not quit. So not under threat. Don't quit your job, stay the course. But first get this documented as outlined here. And you have a high likelihood that they will not be firing you or letting you go.

Dr. Henry Ealy  24:27  
No, we've seen this work. We had a great story. There was a one of my students is a nurse at at a major hospital and I won't name it. But she got three of our fellow nurses together who did not want to be inoculated and they followed this process. They sent questions into their HR the questions the HR could not answer. They then all submitted their religious exemptions. HR came back and said okay, fine, we will not mandate you, you all are exempt, but we're going to force you to be tested Weekly, they said, Nope, we're not going to do that either. And they owe and what that did is it opened up collective bargaining at the hospital because the hospital realized they could not lose 300 workers. And collective bargaining is still underway from what i Last I heard. But they said they are under no circumstances going to submit what they said they're going to demand and their collective bargaining, which I really loved was that they're going to demand that the hospital recognize natural immunity for all of them, because they said, we've all been exposed, we're sure we've recovered. So we and we should be able to produce antibodies, antibody tests, and maybe even T cell tests and show them that we are no threat and there is no risk for anybody to be around us. So leave us alone. And you got it. That's

Dr. Paul  25:46  
gonna do it. You know, before we pivot to reinfection rates, I'm going to tell the folks a couple real stories. I just came from a conference where actually thank you for letting me use your information, I was able to share this information with 500 people on what to do if your employer is threatening you, because that's happening across the country. But I had a room with 500 people. And I had a show of hands, how many of you have had COVID and half the room? raise their hands? Now, mind you, not a single person is wearing a mask, and nor was anyone fearful of what was going on? Well, how many of you 500 have received the vaccine, all the hands, but two went down. There were two people in that room who'd been vaccinated. There was no fear. How many of you yourselves or your loved ones have ended up in the hospital? Two hands went up? How many have died yourself or your loved ones? Zero. That is a testament to natural immunity. And I think you've got some data about reinfection rates that I'd be interested to have you pull up but before you go there, I just want to share another story right before we came on, a nurse came and pulled me out we've got a kid in distress. And the moms in tears because she lost her mother in Canada to COVID. Very recently. And I just want to acknowledge that we know that there are people who are losing loved ones to this illness, and or to the the vaccine the shots that are being given causing other forms of harm. And we're not callous or insensitive to your loss. And then but what you lead with here, Dr. H, this ability to take your immunity to a whole new level. Folks, go back and re listen to this, do it don't just listen to it and say, Oh, that sounds interesting. I am doing everything you listed at those very doses. That is what you do to have confidence that you will be absolutely fine with your natural immunity or if you've gotten the vaccines still boost your immune system that way. So anyway, but if we can pivot to reinfection rates, sure. It speaks to how a room that size of folks who've more than half of them had COVID have total confidence that they can walk about this run freely. I was with Dr. McCulloh. He spoke at this conference and I wrote a took a ride with him. We're in the same car sitting side by side and he goes into rooms of actively infected COVID patients without a mask. He is fearless. He is intentionally exposed himself why he already had COVID. If he knows, as he knows, as he knows, and there's nobody who knows it better than he is completely protected. natural immunity is amazing. What's the what's the data showing?

Dr. Henry Ealy  28:32  
Well, we have some incredible data. Let's go to the natural immunity first. Okay, and now before we go into reinfection rates, so And let me also say thank you for saying that it's important to us that we embrace everybody regardless of what their your decision was to vaccinate or not to vaccinate, I will not discriminate against anyone for any reason. We and I just feel so strongly that they are trying to create a new pseudo race war, Vax versus unbox, I am not taking that bait. You are my brother, you are my sister, I don't care what your decision was. That was your exercising of your medical freedom. And I support you on it. Just like I hope you support me on my simple as that right, we move on. So I do want to share that we have a really great article on the Energetic Health website, Energetic Health Institute website. This might make you laugh a little bit top seven nutrients to help you survive your gov.

Okay, and we cover all of this in more detail. And it's all reference. So you can check that out as well. But let's and it works like you said, Dr. Pol, it works whether you are already inoculated because we're seeing tremendous numbers of breakthrough cases now. Right? So you you need to make sure you're still empowering your immune system to deal with the variants that appears the vaccine is very ineffectual at at preventing, right so when we look at at this, this is an article done by Blaze media and specifically I want to give great credit to Daniel Horowitz who's Been doing putting out some great work, I think on this collecting, he's just collecting data and putting it out there. So we collected 15 peer reviewed studies that show that your when you've recovered, your immunity is durable, robust, and flexible, I add that last word in there. Durable means that it's going to be able to be on call for any future exposures, you're ready to go. That's why Dr. Peter McCauley doesn't worry or wear a mask when he goes in, he's already recovered, there's nothing that you could expose him to that he's his body isn't going to be able to handle. It's going to be robust, meaning it's going to be such a rapid immunological response that you will never even feel symptoms, you so there's no opportunity for you to be a vector a source of the infection to spread to anyone else, you can't spread it. And number three, it is flexible, flexible means that it can handle any variant. Okay, the people who got this right, Sweden got this right, everybody who has recovered and said, You know what, I already have immunity. Why should I take something if I already am immune? Exactly. You're exactly right. You're thinking beautifully on this topic. So 15 studies, I'm just going to pull out one of them. This is the one from New York University. There's actually Dr. Paul, in this article, a couple studies where they show that people who've recovered and have immunity and still got inoculated the inoculations actually weakened their immune response, which was that's very interesting and very concerning. So let's just read two quotes out of this New York University NYU study right here. In COVID-19 patients immune responses were characterized by a highly augmented interferon response. So what's interferon you know, when you get sick and viral infection and at night and your body gets all achy and you can't get comfortable and you just want to kick the covers off and all that stuff. Interferon is a natural anti viral, it's an it's blocks viral replication, it just makes the muscles feel achy and, and us uncomfortable. So they're saying the immune responses were characterized by a highly inter augmented interferon response, which was largely absent in vaccine recipients. So if you've been inoculated your body's one of the first lines of defense before it even gets to the immune cells, interferon is taken offline, that's not a good thing we want you need to feel a little achy, because the shakiness is a sign that your body's immune system is actually working. Okay, so that's a concern. Increased interferon signaling likely contributed to the observed dramatic upregulation because that's what it does. It communicates to say, Hey, we got something going on here. upregulation of cytotoxic genes in the peripheral T cells and innate, like lymphocytes in the patient, but not in immunized subjects. So what they're saying here is if you've been immunized, that your your body is now having a difficult time coordinating and communicating the proper immunological response. That's a big concern. And I think that sets the stage for the spread that we're seeing of the Delta variant in the vaccinated when you go to Israel and Gibraltar and Iceland, and you look at how what percentage of their populations that you know, 80% of their hospitalized patients are vaccinated. The study further notes analysis of B cell excuse me, a B and T cell receptor repertoires revealed that while the majority of colonial B and T cells and COVID-19 patients were effector cells in vaccine recipients colonially, I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right, expanded cells were primarily circulating memory cells. A memory cell is a B cell that kind of keeps track of things. So here's let me let me see if I can explain this for your audience.

Once an infection is over, a B cell is what produces antibodies. So think of them, you know, those little we were kids, we had the guns that had little suction cups on them, right? Think of an antibody as a little suction cup, one of those little arrows, those little plastic suction cups, right, that's what an antibody is. B cells shoot those out like crazy when they're activated. But once the infection is over, they just put a few of those little antibodies on their cell surface and they convert down into a lesser form called a memory cell. A memory cell is just circulating around in the blood until it comes in contact with that same antigen the source code to virus in this case, what this is saying is that because the variants have changed, the inoculation induced immunity is not able to recognize the variants. So the memory cells are floating around looking for something that they can't recognize the variant. Yeah, it's too specific. It's too specific. So now what we're seeing though, is the button the people who have recovered no such problem, the people recovered. That's the flexibility that is imparted right there. So it's exciting. There's 14 Other studies in here and then there's two studies that I really like to comment on in terms of because the question is, well, I already recovered. What's the likelihood? I'm going to get this again? And yeah, nine months, right. That's where yeah, the usual timeframe for studies? Well, the first study that came out was actually this one over here, the Denmark study. And what the Denmark study, it checked on about 4 million people. And, and what they found was the reinfection rate in a nine month time period was 0.65%. So that's to say it doesn't happen. And that was mostly elderly people who are also immunocompromised. So it's not something to concern. This study that just came out in August, it came out August 19. Is a study with a think there. This is Kaiser Permanente, and it was 75,000. People and it so these are the kinds of studies I like to read. I can't stand the projection model studies with no participants give me people, right. Yep. This one found that it was at the maximum reinfection rate was 0.8%. So a little higher than Denmark. I've talked to Peter McCullough as well. And he said that he has a study that he's read that is that 0.2% And I just don't have that one on hand.

Dr. Paul  36:12  
Yeah. Well, you know, I was just just interrupt. Sorry. Yeah. No, I was I was with Dr. makalah. This weekend. And he said to me, I mean, he's treated over 1000 patients and he's consulted on way more than that. I have yet to find a single not one case of a reinfection isn't what's happening is people are getting positive PCRs, sometimes months later, it's still there from the initial infection, and they're calling it a reinfection. And so he has yet to find one that is legitimately a reinfection.

Dr. Henry Ealy  36:45  
Right. And I And I've talked with him about this too, and I agree with his assessment on it 100%. Because we know that the CDC, South Korea published a study very early on showing that you could test positive for PCR up to 12 weeks after you've already recovered from the inoculation. It's not because you're infectious. It's because you're producing dead nucleotides in the mucosa where the test is being performed. So it's just another fall to the PCR test. But with this one, I really, really liked a part of their conclusions in this study. The infection with SARS code two is uncommon. Yes, that's good news. Right. We suspected and again, this these are this is 0.8%. Suspected reinfections. This isn't confirmed, right with suspected reinfections more likely in women, adults and immune here's the key immunocompromised subjects. Yes. That would make more sense, right that the people who already were immunocompromised are more likely to get it a second time within nine months. But here look at this, and those previously hopped hospitalized for Coronavirus. What was nice in this in this gobbledygook of results is that almost none. And this is the Denmark study to almost none of the people who were supposedly reinfected needed hospitalization. So let's just say there's great news. And there's nothing to be worried about, particularly if you've recovered. If you've recovered, you should be exempt from all this nonsense and be back on with your life while we're sorting out the vaccine mandates and all this other nonsense. Alright. If you've recovered, you're fine. You are more than fine. You are more than by you. I am envious of you. Okay, if you've recovered?

Dr. Paul  38:24  
Absolutely. Tell me just to bring it to the real world. There's a story about Simone Scott, and I think you wanted to share.

Dr. Henry Ealy  38:32  
I thank you for giving me the platform to do this. Dr. Paul, I am just people ask me all these why and why am I doing this? Because you know, I'm relentless at this. I'm relentless because of stories like this, and specifically this story. Simone Scott. Simone Scott died on June 11 2021. Can I just read a little bit from this circle of Mama's art Emily, okay. So, someones got a 19 year old student at Northwestern University received the first dose of the Maderna vaccine in April, of course, she was doing what she felt was right. Okay, we got all these kids all scared thinking that if they get corona the Coronavirus, they're going to die not true. Nothing that the Recover rate is 99.99% in her age range, but we freaked him out. And I shouldn't say we they they freak them out. She felt noticeably fatigued afterward and developed a bad cough. This is a adverse event. This is a vaccine injury. This is the so called vaccine. This is an injury. But thought it could be allergies. Time passed, and suddenly it was made and she was due to receive the second dose. So what does she do? If we had if she should have never been eligible for this? It was never a need for her. They never checked to see if she had already recovered, even in the first place. But she's she goes and she gets the second dose. Although she was still not feeling herself. She stuck with the schedule and went in for it. Simone got the second dose on May 1 Over the next two weeks She experienced frequent nosebleeds that doesn't tell you something major is going on. And the low grade fever, sore throat, swollen lymph nodes and irregular heartbeat. This poor child, this is a child, she's 19 her whole life is in front of her. During this time, she visited the Student Health Clinic three times where it was assumed. Again, we don't we shouldn't be practicing assumption based medicine. We got it when you don't guess when you can know where it was assumed she had some kind of a virus and she was given an antiviral medication. Wow. Right. It was assume they didn't even confirm that she actually had a virus Okay. Doctors fail to properly diagnose the previously completely healthy teenager. Let's emphasize that. No corpsman comorbidities no health conditions. previously healthy, totally fine, beautiful young girl. Right. Proud to be at Northwestern that was what she wanted to do her whole life. I read other stories on our show. All she wanted to do is be a Northwestern student and a Northwestern grad this and it goes on by May 16. So 15 days later, she had only gotten worse, Dizzy, seriously fatigued and unable to walk. Simone was admitted to the hospital where she and her family were told her heart was failing. Why is it failing myocarditis put her body's producing the spike proteins and it's injuring her heart. They suspected it was myocarditis, and that a virus was attacking the heart. A virus wasn't attacking the heart. The injection was attacking her heart. The experimental injections and emergency surgery to insert a balloon pump was performed but it failed and Simone was placed on heart lung bypass by May 23. A week later doctors informed her parents that a heart transplant was her best option. Do we this they took a healthy thriving girl made her scared. She wants to do the right thing she thinks doing the right thing is getting inoculated in an experiment. And when the experiment fails, because of all these missteps, they now say just in March, this little girl is fine. This young woman let's let's give me give her a little more credit. This young woman is fine. Okay, I'm a dad. Okay, give me a break. This young woman is fine in March. She takes an experimental inoculation. And by May 23 They are now telling her heart transplant folks, and this isn't all over CNN, Fox News all these major this drives me insane that we can be out in the streets rioting over and I shouldn't say writing protesting over George Floyd's death, but we're not in the streets over this girl's murder. This is murder. What happened here? Following the surgery, Simone continued to struggle and had remained sedated her lungs had been severely damaged again, still, she her body's producing the spike proteins by proteins still damaging the tissues in the body. And the immunosuppressive drugs she was given to tolerate the transplant led to severe lung infection. So now she's got secondary infections. On June 11, Simone's parents were called in to say their last goodbyes. So that that story I have read and shared in interviews, Dr. Paul

maybe 50 times at this point. Yeah. And it's still losing that could have been my son. That could have been somebody else's child. These are they

Dr. Paul  43:36  
are coming for our children, that they are just targeting anybody who's unvaccinated. It is driven by a mad idea that this is the way forward we have total, reliable evidence to the contrary.

Dr. Henry Ealy  43:55  
And we have no evidence we have we have no evidence to substantiate the safety of these experiments. We have all the evidence in the world to substantiate that they are unsafe over over 670,000 reports of injury at minimum, over 14,000 people dead at minimum, over 5000 people dead within 48 hours. At minimum. We have no evidence in the science anymore to support the efficacy, right? Anything below 50% efficacy is a failed clinical trials have failed intervention. But we have every bit to show that 99% of people 99.99% of people below 18 years of age recover 99.6% of Americans below 65 years of age recover. I keep telling people the same simple concept you cannot inject immunity. You cannot take a capsule and make that will make you immune immunity comes from within it was already given to you by God, it was given to you by your Creator. It is one of the most special and amazing things in the human body. All it needs is a little bit of the right nutrients, vitamin D C, a zinc, maybe a little assist with NAC or glutathione. All it needs is a little bit and it does the rest. And we have 15 studies at the very least that prove that. But we are being told we are being misled by people with definitive financial interests and other interests I got I can only Can Can I can only conclude control control. They're just control and power hungry. We are being misled into a potential new level race war where it's the VAX versus the unbox. The only reason that this is going on is because they want you to believe that the vaccinated that the unvaccinated people are the problem when in fact the unvaccinated people that people who have recovered are the solution. They are they're the safest people to be around.

Dr. Paul  46:05  
Amen. And and the unboxed are not a threat. Absolutely not. So we're gonna end with some other tips. One other tip that you had and I'm going to add to it but tell our viewers I love arm yourself with a a robust immune system as you started this conversation. But you can also protect yourself with mouthwash. Tell us about that. It actually is extremely real. Dr. McCulloh learned this from dentists who he doesn't know of a single dentist who has been following these protocols who's been harmed, or gotten COVID.

Dr. Henry Ealy  46:41  
Exactly. So records did a study it came out. This actually came out March 16. But it didn't really start circulating until a couple weeks ago. And it just showed that if you are practicing good hygiene, especially good oral hygiene, we know we know that the the infection spreads through the salivary glands, we have confirmation and peer reviewed evidence of that we also know it can. There's some concerns that it can be secreted in other fluids like seminal fluids and things like that, but we know definitively the major route is through the salivary glands through this. So it makes sense that especially if you feel that you are coming down with some kind of symptomatology that you would clean out your mouth. So with this is this is showing a base, this is a basic study on Listerine and show that list. Listerine with chlorhexidine was incredibly effective at killing the virus. But guess what else is effective at killing the virus? Hydrogen, Hydrogen Peroxide. So one of the things that Dennis had been recommending for as long as I've ever been alive, is a simple mouth rinse, where you just take a little bit of hydrogen peroxide and a little bit of water, mix it around, and then you swish it around in your mouth, gargle and spit. It's the easiest thing. It's like Tucker Paul, we were joking. Last time we talked about the best advice that they've actually given is on washing your hands. I mean, wash your hands, practice good oral hygiene. And you will limit the spread. It's far more effective than a mask or any kind of ridiculous social distancing. If you take that next step, and you're practicing prevention with the nutrients that we talked about, you have nothing to worry about. In fact, I would say that the way Sweden has done things proves itself. Maybe we should have had a COVID party. Maybe we should have just had a COVID party not for the people in high risk.

Dr. Paul  48:35  
Right. We didn't know in the beginning, it seemed to be very frightful, right, a lot of fear. And honestly, we just didn't have information but looking back retrospectively for sure. For children, for sure. For children, they should have just opened up the schools and intentionally let them get this unless they were maybe you had high risk kids, you could have protected them but we get high

Dr. Henry Ealy  48:55  
risk. No, I agree with you. But But everybody else yeah, go and get this get established immunity, stop being scared of it. You're going to be exposed to it at some point when vaccinated

Dr. Paul  49:04  
this fall and winter with with what I'm learning and hearing about delta and we're all gonna get it. Yeah. If you're if you're prepared. You don't need to be afraid at all.

Dr. Henry Ealy  49:13  
Not at all. No, I'm not afraid you're not afraid. You know, right. I think we have a good idea what we're talking about.

Dr. Paul  49:19  
Yeah, absolutely. Well, share with us your in your parting words. How can people get the best information?

Dr. Henry Ealy  49:27  
Well, thank you for that. Really simple. If you want to get the latest information that we're putting out, we do a podcast every week. We have a good one on 5g coming out this weekend. That's blew my mind. So we do a podcast and a live radio show. Every weekend we actually follow Dr. Peter McCullough's radio show on the America cloud network. I also try to publish at least one article every week to update people on what's going on so you can find it out our show is energetic health radio, and you can go and check that out all of its free of course. And we liked for people to be very happy. That's why we like doing fun stuff like that. But if you are, if you've had enough, and I've talked to a lot of Americans who've had enough, and I've had enough, if you've had enough, you're tired of being afraid of telling the truth, you're tired of seemingly elected officials doing the exact opposite of what makes sense, then I would encourage everybody to join us at COVID con 21. Our Solution Summit is going to be October 14, October 16, you can go to COVID con 20 one.com. You can register for it. Every single dollar after expenses is going to go to fund unbiased science and expert legal action and even some legislative action, we're going to try to get some proposals for amendments to the bill of rights ratified. effect. We're not going to try we're going to do it. And what we're going to do is everything that we can to help protect medical freedom, help protect employees rights, and help protect student rights. And this is what this conference is about. So you see some great folks, there's Peter again. I love this guy so much, right? I mean, just what a great dude. But we have some great folks like Attorney George Wentz. Senator Dennis Dennis Linthicum from Oregon's gonna join us. Dr. James Lyons Wyler, Dr. David Martin, Pam Popper, Kevin Jenkins, my dear friend, and I'll be speaking we're also going to have and what I love about this conference, Dr. Paul, is it's going to be active participation. It's not just sit there and learn what you already some of you already know. It's going to be focused on every single day, we're going to have time periods set up for people online and in person to participate in how we are going to solve this problem, how we are going to come together to do what's right, how we're going to make sure that this never happens again. And that's what this is all about. So I hope everybody in your audience will join us. And I hope that they will share it. And let's bring everybody together to do what's right.

Dr. Paul  51:53  
Fantastic. Dr. H, it's always a huge pleasure to have you on the show. You are a treasure trove of information, and wisdom and guidance. God bless. Thank you so much.

Dr. Henry Ealy  52:06  
Dr. Paul, thank you for having me. I love you, brother. Thank you so much.

Dr. Paul  52:09  
Likewise.

Welcome to against the wind Bernadette, you are informed choice Washington and an informed life radio, as your background shows with those beautiful trees. Today, we're going to talk about how we communicate with others, especially our loved ones

Bernadette Pajer  52:30  
in the very beginning. You know, I lost a friend who just I think emotionally couldn't handle the overwhelming what was happening and step back away from me. And I've I've lost others who just would not even talk about all I do is put forward the science and you know, in an earnest voice. And they just did not want to engage and they walked away. And it was really interesting, because on the radio yesterday, there were others talking about this. And they said in their experience which matches mine, the people who are who are opposed who don't believe that science supports masking, and who do not believe that the science supports mass use of these experimental injections? People walk away from us, right, we don't tend to walk away from them. And I'm sure there are circumstances where it's different. But you know, I think the majority of this is this way. And you know, Dr. Paul, how do we navigate that? How do we, you know, try to hold grace in our hearts. Even as there's this separation,

Dr. Paul  53:43  
right? You said something that kind of, I've been wanting to express and that is early on, as we were discussing this, you mentioned about being right or wrong. And I think it's so important when we're talking to our loved ones that we're not trying to make anybody right or wrong. Because as soon as I come across too strong, which has been my tendency that makes the other person feel threatened, like, I'm trying to say that I'm right and and that's my mistake, I think and how I come across, I'm so passionate, I know who you are, too. So like on this show, we're often like just going for it because we're so passionate about what we know. I mean, we're following solid science, but it's in contrast, or in contradiction to what they believe and what they are hearing. And I remember my sister and my mom, we were on a trip and they're going but Paul, how could everybody else be wrong? Right? So they're looking at all their doctor friends, Nurse friends, one of my sister's a nurse, the every single TV station they're all How could they Paul, how could they possibly all be wrong? And it makes it it makes this sort of disconnect. I think for them when we're coming with information that goes to the contrary Right, right, those of

Bernadette Pajer  55:01  
us who pre COVID understood the systemic capture of public health in the media, by the pharmaceutical industry, and those who had particular goals. We entered all this seeing how this could be, we entered the saying that, yeah, you've got a great pediatrician who you love, and he really believes what he's telling you, but the system he's in is captured. So we understand that 99% of the people who in the media and and, and doctors or whatever, maybe it might not be that high number actually right now. But they're afraid to speak up their education, and everything around them is supporting this and it's being controlled by very vested interests. How do you find that place of mutual respect. And the division here has been intentionally created to make fear of the other. Right. We we desperately fear our loved ones and friends being harmed, they desperately fear we will somehow harm them because of our stances that we're going to bring disease to them. I love starting it off saying, you know, I love you, I will always love you. You know, we might have to do this relationship from a distance for a while. But when we get down the road, and things change, and things become more understood. I want to leave that open for us to come back together.

Dr. Paul  56:33  
And we have to leave a space for our loved ones to just say, Okay, if you're not comfortable, as you said, being around me because I'm unvaccinated? That's fine. I'll honor that space, we can zoom together, we can stay in touch in whatever ways we possibly can, until such a time that it is more clear that, you know, whatever, right? Those of us who are unvaccinated are getting information that we may be in danger from shedding or, you know, high viral counts in the vaccinated individuals shouldn't should we be fearing them? I don't personally but, you know, it can go both ways. That's all like you said, they're trying to divide us people who have to make very difficult decisions that are costing them relationships with family members, with friends, losing jobs over this, we've got to understand there has to be a powerful force underlying their whole being and who they are for them to make such a difficult decision. It's it's impossible that that would just be a whimsical thing. Oh, well, I'm just going to destroy my family. I mean, that's a deep held personal conviction. And as loved ones, we need to honor that and do everything we can to support them, even if we don't agree with their decision.

Bernadette Pajer  57:56  
Yeah, and I encourage those in that position to reach out and find those employees for informed consent.com or.org I forget which one. But there are many places trying to pull together. So if you are losing your job, hey, let's like start our own business. Let's pull together and do this or that kind of reinvent the job market for those who find that can't work.

Dr. Paul  58:20  
Yeah, no, absolutely. There there will be a new, whole new era of businesses that are geared towards those who are free of vaccines and free of masks, certainly, at least vaccines that are problematic as the COVID vaccines.

Bernadette Pajer  58:39  
Yeah. But safe places nonetheless. Because they follow the science and know what is needed to support people to be healthy to you know, oh, yeah,

Dr. Paul  58:50  
absolutely. And folks, if you're watching this and you're going, but COVID is dangerous. Sure it is. I mean, there are people who have died. We know this, many of you might have loved ones who have died. But the great news that Bernadette has hammered on on this show almost every week, is that there are so many things you can do to boost your immune system to have your natural ability to withstand such an infection, which is not as dangerous as it's made out to be anyway. Once you have a boosted immune system, the danger is close to zero, unless you are super high risk, right? There are individuals are very old, very obese, diabetes, cancer, there's certain you know, if your immune system is severely compromised, sure you're at greater risk, be extra careful quarantine, quarantine works, but also do all these things that boosts your immune system because you'll have such a better chance. I don't fear this. I know you've been through it, right? Yeah,

Bernadette Pajer  59:47  
yeah. But you know, I was taking some of the supplements before him the nutrients that support your immune system, and I had my COVID kit ready to go. Yeah, you know, I had the ivermectin and everything ready to go. Day one. So yeah, it was good to get through. And the studies now show that I have very strong immunity to at least 24 variants. And you know, that's the beauty of natural immunity, we need to support through it, we need to push for early treatment, because vaccinated or not, people need early treatment, more and more people are being hospitalized, who are vaccinated. We need to prevent cases from getting to the hospitalization stage, if hospitals are not following the protocols that we know work, right,

Dr. Paul  1:00:34  
right. So those of you who have a loved one who is unvaccinated, but informed, they may be your resource, listen to what they have to say, look at the resources that we provide. And, you know, let's band together and get through this, whether we're vaccinated or not, there is a way forward that is completely simple. I mean, it's this is like you said, you had your COVID kit, get that COVID kit. Now, get prepared, so that if you even if you're vaccinated, if you get COVID, and you've been vaccinated or not, you can prepare yourself in ways that are very, very straightforward, some simple supplements. And then if you actually get it and you're getting sick, there's there's the other recommendations that might include ivermectin, for example, which is being slandered and you're being, it's becoming very difficult to get it. But there are ways so get it, be prepared. And you're not, you do not need to live in fear now and

Bernadette Pajer  1:01:34  
find a wonderful healthcare practitioner like Dr. Paul Thomas, to be your expert to seek out because if you get COVID, it's a little bit scary because of what you've heard. And you've got that expert, you consult that professional who's aligned with your way of dealing with health issues. There you go. So I always say find your doctor Paul, wherever he or she is.

Dr. Paul  1:01:55  
You weren't specifically asking them to call my office? No, no, this is it. I'm a pediatrician. And, yeah, I it would be very difficult for me to care for out of state people who aren't in my practice, no,

Bernadette Pajer  1:02:06  
but find somebody like you who bribe an informed consent who's on top of the COVID protocols, and that you can reach out to to guide you through any illness. You know, that just makes you feel so much better about your approach. And you've got that professional by your side? Yep.

Dr. Paul  1:02:23  
So in closing, I want to say to all of you, we are all human, we all have a beating heart, we've got the same sort of blood running through our veins, regardless of where we come from, doesn't matter what our belief systems are, what we look like, we are all human, and we can get through this together. Let's not allow the polarization of our families and friends and nations over something that's been sort of created and division that's being sold through the use of fear. Fear sells, right? I mean, any marketing person knows sex or fear itself? Well, we're gonna say no to that. We're going to turn off our televisions, we're going to get back in communion with one another. And, gosh, parting words you have for us, Bernadette.

Bernadette Pajer  1:03:12  
Just Amen to what you just said, Dr. Paul, just, you know, love each other. Yep. That respect each other.

Dr. Paul  1:03:20  
Love and respect. We hope you have a wonderful week. And hug those loved ones of yours if you're allowed to get near them. Because touch is amazing. It's it's healing. It's wonderful. And you've got the toolkit you need. God bless.

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