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Good morning CHD Welcome to pediatric perspectives, where we're looking at children's health challenges from a different perspective, one that includes critical thinking, and we're not afraid to give you the honest truth. Today, we're gonna take a look at a real amazing resource. Children's Health defense has created a brand new ebook, A Parent's Guide to Healthy Children from preconception to early childhood. And our guest today, returning to the show is Dr. Liz mumper. Thank you, Dr. Liz, for coming on the show. My pleasure. So we're going to discuss a couple things that are highlighted in this book, this is a book that parents are going to want to have this as a resource, it's just a wealth of information. And it taken it is taken from a perspective that really honors health freedom honors, informed consent honors, natural type healing modalities, which is what we need today, I think, I thought we would look at the second chapter of this book. And this is covering what happens during pregnancy. And so in addition to each step of development being laid out, including the commonly recommended vaccines, which is I think, where I wanted us to start because that, to me, just the thought of vaccines and pregnancy. I don't know I grew up in Africa, I remember moms delivering in the village, of course, it was rough to have very little support. In fact, that's what my mom did. She became a midwife just to help those births. But the thought of putting stuff into the pregnant mom, what are your thoughts about the vaccines? And maybe you probably remember the history of when what was introduced? I know we had flu first. I don't know around 2006, maybe 2011 T DAB added. Now they've added COVID and RSV. Oh, wow. What are your thoughts? Elizabeth Mumper, M.D. 2:20 Well, Paul, I philosophically have big concerns about vaccines in pregnancy. As you know, most of pregnancy, the mother is in a bit of an immuno suppressed state. Because if her immune system was functioning in the way that all foreign objects are recognized as foreign and attacked, she would attack and get rid of the fetus. And so there's this very intricate process of immune regulation where before delivery, the T cells of the mother, which is part of her immune system changed from being in kind of a suppressed, not get too agitated kind of state, to being more pro inflammatory, and seemingly recognizing the fetus, as you know, time to go now. So to bring in vaccines during pregnancy, you're introducing pro inflammation at a time, because many of the vaccines are given at 28 weeks, the new RSV vaccine is being recommended 32 to 36 weeks, but you're bringing in this foreign injection that's going to be recognized and cause inflammation, some degree of inflammation, and some degree of mitochondrial stress. You know, the mitochondria are very persnickety, and they don't function well, if it's the cells a little too basic or a little too acidic or too salty or not salty enough, or if there's a heavy metal or if there is, you know, infections like viruses or bacteria. So, with the ingredients in the injections, I think we're already sort of violating the natural state of pregnancy. But I reserved my biggest concerns for the newest vaccines, I do not in any way recommend COVID vaccines in pregnancy. First of all, we know that they're not really a vaccine, they are acknowledged now as a gene therapy product that may be causing the mother cell to react to a message from a synthetic mRNA to make spike protein, which is actually one of the things that really cause trouble for people who got COVID in the first place. Secondly, we've seen a host of concerning outcomes. And I want to talk for a minute about the way that some of the science about the COVID vaccines has really been distorted in the media. And I'm thinking particularly of a paper that came out in the New England Journal of Medicine which used to be However spected, looking at the vaccine in pregnant women, and what they did is that they had a little over 800 people in the study. And the thing that made headlines is that there was not an increased risk of miscarriage, miscarriages essentially when the baby is delivered less than 20 weeks of gestational age. And they said that their rate, which I think was like 12.6, was very comparable to background. And that would be true if that number were true. But when you actually look at the chart in the paper, they counted all the women and there were 700 of them, who got the vaccine in their third trimester. Obviously, past the time, they could have possibly had a miscarriage prior to 20 weeks, they counted them in the statistics. So if you actually looked at the little over 100 Women who got the vaccine at a time when they actually could have had a miscarriage before 20 weeks, the miscarriage rate was actually at 2%. And so I don't think that pregnant women out there have any idea that if they get this vaccine in the first trimester, they're facing a essentially a four out of five risk of losing their baby. So that really bothered me, especially because the way the media reported it was the surface information, they didn't bother to actually look at the true science. So I feel like women are being bamboozled into thinking that the COVID vaccines are better than they are. So I highly recommend against the COVID vaccine in particular in pregnancy. And I also am campaigning hard to not have it the given to babies starting at six months, and then every year thereafter. And RSV vaccine and pregnancy is another one where I think the science just doesn't support its use. And several of the studies, it didn't meet the primary endpoints. And so we were having to give the vaccine to nearly 100 Women in order to prevent one serious case of RSV. And given all the unknown side effects and the track record of it, causing some problems with premature birth. I don't think that's a good trade off. So I'm interested to see what you think or if we should dive into this a little bit more. Oh, Dr. Paul 7:31 I couldn't agree more. These the COVID. And the RSV vaccines are just horrendous. The risk is so great for harm and benefits. Who knows? Right? It's we don't have enough data long term studies. I remember when they brought the when they added the T DAP to the to the schedule, I was horrified because I knew that was a aluminum containing vaccine. And I mean, you've lectured on this. I've heard your lectures. Aluminum is neurotoxic is horrendous for the immune system, it shifts the immune system more towards allergy and autoimmunity. And looking at some of the studies, there were two problems one, and this was true for the flu shot as well also given in pregnancy. Any vaccine in pregnancy, as you pointed out, causes inflammation and inflammation increases your risk of pregnancy loss. And also probable neurologic problems. But there was another thing I looked at with the teat app, there was a study that showed an increase in chorioamnionitis. And the percentages were high enough, it was a very large study, that if you did the math, we were going to lose more babies from death from chorioamnionitis, which is an infection right around the time of delivery, then the deaths that would have been saved by the few cases of pertussis that protect potentially might have been spared. Right. The whole reason they added that to the pregnancy schedule was well, newborns don't have pertussis protection. So we give it to the mom baby's born with some protection. Yeah, it didn't pencil out. The risks of the vaccine far exceeded the potential benefit of saving a few cases a year of pertussis. So yeah, I I go back to just folks, moms, you're carrying this baby, you know, you're the world I mean, you've always worried about what you ate, you don't eat fish because of the mercury. You don't smoke. You don't take drugs, pharmaceutical or otherwise, right to to just keep that womb, the sacred place that it is. And then we invade it with vaccines is counterintuitive. And I think the problem is we've lost our touch to our intuition. Elizabeth Mumper, M.D. 9:41 That's a good point, Paul. And the other thing that you've pointed out is actually doing the math. You know, many I mean, doctors are busy you and I were very busy during our pediatric careers. And probably the last thing I wanted to do was read a whole article, a whole journal, front to back at the end of a long day with patient So, the doctors have defaulted to reading the abstracts. But when you do that, and you don't do the math, you don't see what the real story is. So I hate math, but I've made myself at the end, take the numbers that they give, and either work out percentages in terms of, you know, what percentage of people had bad side effects, or I work out the number needed to treat meaning how many people do give the shot to her not gonna have any benefit, in order to achieve, you know, one outcome that you want, like a baby not getting RSV, for example, or purchases. And when you do the math, you realize that some vaccine science is really built on some some legend and some myth, and some numbers that don't really undergo strict scrutiny. And this is my opinion, and not shared by every pediatrician, obviously. Dr. Paul 10:58 Yeah, no, it's you're right, we don't have the time where we were, we're not making the time, right, because it's impossible to stay up with everything. But reading abstracts, just doesn't cut it anymore. Because as you pointed out, so often, these journals, there must be conflicted somehow, because they're allowing stuff to be published, where the abstract or the conclusion is not supported by the data. So hide the harmful data. It's there if you take the time to really look at it. But yeah, we can't we can't get by with abstracts. Thank you for reminding us about that. So I want to take a look at one other chapter. So A Parent's Guide to Healthy Children from preconception to early childhood is our new ebook from Children's Health defense, chapter four. So what I love about this book is it prepares you as a new parent of things you really ought to be thinking about. So if Chapter Four goes through the first year of life, and it includes breastfeeding, and risks of early childhood vaccines, things you can do in the first year that promote neurological development, things you maybe should do to protect your children from harm. And that's another unique aspect of this book is we're not sugarcoating anything. So if there's a concern, and I think you and I could maybe highlight this a little bit, what are the biggest concerns for neurological health in that first year of life? Elizabeth Mumper, M.D. 12:24 Well, I'm going to come back to the environment. And, you know, we release so many chemicals in our environment now. And most of them aren't studied in terms of their initial toxicity for the own for their own chemical. But more importantly, they're not just studied in synergy with any other heavy metals or other chemicals. So we've got this toxic soup that our kids are growing up in. And so anything you can do, avoiding a lawn service, so that you are not exposing your child to pesticides, eating as organic as possible, because glyphosate, which interacts with our gut flora, in ways that are very bad, is present in almost all of our food now. So it's very important to try to avoid glyphosate, which is found in Roundup other thing is trying to really encourage good gut flora. So sometimes we ended up giving children probiotics, especially if they had a C section, especially if they have had lots of antibiotics. There are good infant probiotics, made by Claire Provera, which is a company that does third party testing, and specifically develops probiotics that are good for to mimic the ones that the child would have themselves. So those are some of the thoughts that I have. Dr. Paul 14:00 Super, so I'm gonna have to go there. You and I trained as we were to follow the CDC schedule for vaccines. In the early days, it was the AAP that our academy of pediatrics that I think worked together with the CDC and then the last decade or so the CDC has just taken over and the Academy pediatric rubber stamps, whatever they say, as this is the right thing to do is to follow the CDC schedule. When did you start to question that advice? And then fast forward to where you're at today? If you could do it all over again, like if you were having a baby today, what would you do? Elizabeth Mumper, M.D. 14:41 So the time that changed for me was in the late 90s When I watched a baby regressed into autism after I gave him an MMR vaccine. And it seemed like that was the only thing that I could identify that was different. So what I initially did was I modified my sketch And I reasoned that I would do, you know, one or two vaccines at a time, and not follow the CDC schedule. And then I wouldn't give certain vaccines that I thought were more harmful than good. And so I quit doing Hepatitis B at birth, I quit giving rotavirus vaccine, and I never have recommended Gardasil vaccine, where I think that the risk benefit ratio is clearly in favor of not giving it. Now, Paul, this is going to be shocking. But if I were having a baby today, I would really consider not doing any vaccines at all in the first one to two years of life. Because I think that the risks of today's children living in the environmental mess that we're asking them to live in. And with the high risk of neurodevelopmental disorders are at much higher risk of having autism, or ADHD, or behavior problems, or anxiety, anxiety disorders, than the risk posed by measles or pertussis, given our current ability to take care of those children that might get those. But from 2005 or so until 2022. I was using a modified vaccine schedule and similar to the one that you used in the vaccine friendly plan, and I too, have come to realize that, you know, even that plan isn't friendly enough to the children. So I might make different decisions. If a baby had a certain medical problem, but for a healthy baby born after a healthy pregnancy, I would really delay vaccines now. And I would follow the child's neuro development and immune history Well, during the first couple of years of life, and then revisit the decisions. Yeah, Dr. Paul 16:57 I couldn't agree more. And folks who are watching, just understand this is not a medical recommendation, here, we're just having a conversation about the information we've gleaned over our 100 years or so if we put our two careers together. You know, working in this field and becoming aware of true risks that exist. And you're spot on. It's a different environment. When you and I grew up there. I didn't remember seeing any autism Did you know, no, it just it wasn't fair. And now it's, you know, one in 34. Or sometimes worse than that, depending on if you're a male or where you live. This is a tragedy of proportions that are mind boggling. And yet, nobody's taking a look at it. So I agree with you. Be careful first and know the risks. Right? No, no, the risks of not vaccinating. I coach folks, now I don't have a licensed I'm not practicing, I'm not giving medical advice or diagnosing. But I'll coach on this whole issue of vaccines, and give the pros and the cons and the actual risks of dying from the disease for which there's a vaccine with the actual risks of getting the vaccine. And it's interesting when you look at those two things, in today's world, for every single one of them, the risk of getting the vaccine is higher than the risk of the disease for which you're vaccinating. So you know, that's a personal decision. Each of you that's watching needs to make, and you know, make it in consultation with somebody you trust, who actually listens, and who is open to all perspectives. I don't know if you have any tips for parents, because this is a story I hear all the time. I can't find a pediatrician that will take us into their practice, because we don't want to vaccinate or we're not sure we want to vaccinate. Do you have any thoughts about that? Elizabeth Mumper, M.D. 18:55 Only to agree that it's very difficult because pediatricians are still being trained to use the CDC schedule. And when I was at the American Academy of Pediatrics, there were so many young people there that I know were hoping to be the best pediatrician they could. But all they were hearing was you know, try to promote the vaccines. Here's how you cope with vaccine hesitancy you know, if people are hesitant to get a vaccine, counseled them about how their baby could die if they don't get it. And I think that's a really difficult position for parents to be in. I would say that people that are trained in functional medicine, or people that are trained by an organization called the Medical Academy of Pediatric special needs are going to be more in tune with the harms of vaccines, but they're going to be few and far between and most people are going to have difficulty finding a pediatrician that has come to the kind of either wisdom or quackery depending on who is criticizing As the Paul and I have, you know, we're at the end of our careers in many ways, and we've seen a lot, but the young people coming up, they do not tend to think the way that we do. Dr. Paul 20:10 Yeah, I would say at most importance is you find someone that will honor informed consent, because as parents, you don't want to give up your authority, your right to make decisions for your child. So if you're going into a practice where it's one size fits all medicine, vote with your dollar don't even go. It's just not worth the risk. Dr. Mumford, thank you so much. I know you've got to get off to another interview. So I'm gonna release you. Do you have any final words that you'd like to share with our audience, Elizabeth Mumper, M.D. 20:40 just that I'm so glad that this book project has gone forward, and that the ebook will be available to everybody. I think it's going to be a nice counterbalance to the books that are put out by the American Academy of Pediatrics, which have a very specific perspective. And I think that this is going to give people more confidence in their maternal and paternal instincts and their ability to work together to make good decisions for their child's health. Dr. Paul 21:10 Indeed, thank you so much. Thanks, Paul. Elizabeth Mumper, M.D. 21:14 Bye. Bye, bye. Dr. Paul 21:16 So folks, what you have here is a resource to really get you thinking about the issues that are most important things that are not generally covered in pediatric textbooks. The standard pediatric textbooks are, you know, follow the CDC schedule, the American Academy of Pediatrics is in step with that process. And also, unfortunately, they are also conflicted by influences such as formula companies that are going to Oh, formulas fine. Yes, breast is best, but very quickly, support you in your failure to maybe have successful breastfeeding. So you want to get on top of that, get this ebook, and start having that as another resource partner with those of us that children's health defense who are working to get you all the information you need. Search on the defender. And we'll be bringing more and more resources to you through this show pediatric perspectives, you can check out my other show with the wind at doctors in science.com. And you can always reach me directly, even just to book a coaching session with me at kids first forever.com The number for kids first forever. Thanks for joining us. We'll see you next week. 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