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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Podcast 202: Pediatric Perspectives: Weight Loss Drugs for Kids with Michelle Perro, M.D.

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    What every parent should understand before considering GLP-1 weight loss drugs for their child — and what the evidence points to instead.

    In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined by integrative pediatrician Michelle Perro, M.D. — a clinician with 43 years of experience, an environmental medicine specialist, and the CEO and founder of GMO Science. Dr. Perro has spent decades studying how food, pesticides, and environmental toxicants affect children's health, and in this conversation she brings that perspective directly to bear on one of the most pressing issues in pediatrics today: childhood obesity and the growing push to treat it with GLP-1 agonist drugs.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • The scale of childhood obesity in the U.S. — and why Dr. Perro believes ultra-processed foods, GMOs, and pesticides are the primary drivers, not simply lifestyle choices
    • What GLP-1 hormones are and how GLP-1 agonist drugs work — and why they look promising on paper but raise serious questions when used in children who are still growing
    • The specific concerns Dr. Perro has identified: no long-term pediatric data, significant muscle loss, full weight rebound upon stopping, and side effects including gastroparesis, pancreatitis, and a black box warning for depression and suicidal ideation
    • Why every class of pesticide she has reviewed functions as an endocrine disruptor — and what that has to do with the obesity epidemic
    • Practical steps families can take right now, including how to shop, how to cook, and how to support children's microbiomes in ways that sustain healthy weight naturally
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show 202: Pediatric Perspectives: Weight Loss Drugs for Kids with Michelle Perro, M.D.

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    What every parent should understand before considering GLP-1 weight loss drugs for their child — and what the evidence points to instead.

    Dr. Paul Thomas and Michelle Perro, M.D. on Pediatric Perspectives Show 202, weight loss drugs for children.

    In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined by integrative pediatrician Michelle Perro, M.D. — a clinician with 43 years of experience, an environmental medicine specialist, and the CEO and founder of GMO Science. Dr. Perro has spent decades studying how food, pesticides, and environmental toxicants affect children's health, and in this conversation she brings that perspective directly to bear on one of the most pressing issues in pediatrics today: childhood obesity and the growing push to treat it with GLP-1 agonist drugs.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • The scale of childhood obesity in the U.S. — and why Dr. Perro believes ultra-processed foods, GMOs, and pesticides are the primary drivers, not simply lifestyle choices
    • What GLP-1 hormones are and how GLP-1 agonist drugs work — and why they look promising on paper but raise serious questions when used in children who are still growing
    • The specific concerns Dr. Perro has identified: no long-term pediatric data, significant muscle loss, full weight rebound upon stopping, and side effects including gastroparesis, pancreatitis, and a black box warning for depression and suicidal ideation
    • Why every class of pesticide she has reviewed functions as an endocrine disruptor — and what that has to do with the obesity epidemic
    • Practical steps families can take right now, including how to shop, how to cook, and how to support children's microbiomes in ways that sustain healthy weight naturally
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Podcast 201: Pediatric Perspectives: Dangerous Realities of Modern Medicine with Suzanne Humphries, M.D.

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    What does it actually take to manage childhood infections, support a chronically ill child, and build lasting health — without defaulting to pharmaceutical intervention?

    In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined again by Suzanne Humphries, M.D. — board-certified internist and nephrologist, co-author of Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History, and one of the most thorough medical researchers I know. Following her widely viewed appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience, Dr. Humphries has spent months responding to detailed public critiques of that interview — and in this conversation, we focus on what she has always emphasized most: how to actually support health, especially in children.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • How Dr. Humphries's background in nephrology shaped her understanding of how drugs and environmental inputs affect the body
    • The "blueprint for health" — her foundational framework built on nutrition, hydration, sunlight, and community rather than pharmaceutical management
    • What she has seen work for children with chronic conditions, including autism, enlarged tonsils, and recurrent illness — and why dietary compliance has to be complete and sustained
    • How she managed measles cases during a 2019 outbreak using intravenous and oral vitamin C, including a severely ill 11-year-old
    • Her publicly available whooping cough vitamin C protocol and how it has been used by families around the world
    • Where she places her hope for meaningful change in children's health — and why it isn't in government
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show 201: Pediatric Perspectives: Dangerous Realities of Modern Medicine with Suzanne Humphries, M.D.

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    What does it actually take to manage childhood infections, support a chronically ill child, and build lasting health — without defaulting to pharmaceutical intervention?

    Dr. Paul Thomas and Suzanne Humphries, M.D. discuss foundational health, vitamin C for measles and whooping cough, dietary approaches for autism, and why lasting change starts in the kitchen — not the clinic.

    In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined again by Suzanne Humphries, M.D. — board-certified internist and nephrologist, co-author of Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History, and one of the most thorough medical researchers I know. Following her widely viewed appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience, Dr. Humphries has spent months responding to detailed public critiques of that interview — and in this conversation, we focus on what she has always emphasized most: how to actually support health, especially in children.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • How Dr. Humphries's background in nephrology shaped her understanding of how drugs and environmental inputs affect the body
    • The "blueprint for health" — her foundational framework built on nutrition, hydration, sunlight, and community rather than pharmaceutical management
    • What she has seen work for children with chronic conditions, including autism, enlarged tonsils, and recurrent illness — and why dietary compliance has to be complete and sustained
    • How she managed measles cases during a 2019 outbreak using intravenous and oral vitamin C, including a severely ill 11-year-old
    • Her publicly available whooping cough vitamin C protocol and how it has been used by families around the world
    • Where she places her hope for meaningful change in children's health — and why it isn't in government
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Podcast 200: Pediatric Perspectives: Focusing on Chronic Disease with Liz Mumper, M.D.

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    What's driving the dramatic rise in chronic childhood illness — and what can parents do about it?

    In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined by Liz Mumper, M.D. — a pediatrician with 45 years of clinical experience, founder of the Rimland Center for Integrative Medicine, and a leading trainer of clinicians who work with children with special needs through MAPS Medical Academy and Pediatric Special Needs. Dr. Mumper is also the author of Kids and COVID: Costly Mistakes That Must Never Happen Again. She is one of the physicians I most respect in this field, and this conversation is one I've wanted to have for a long time.

    Show Notes:

    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show 200 — Pediatric Perspectives: Focusing on Chronic Disease with Liz Mumper, M.D.

    Host: Dr. Paul Thomas Guest: Liz Mumper, M.D. Series: Pediatric Perspectives Length: Approximately 34 minutes

    Summary

    In this episode of With the Wind with Dr. Paul, Dr. Paul Thomas is joined by Liz Mumper, M.D., a pediatrician with 45 years of clinical experience, for a broad discussion on the rise of chronic illness in children.

    The conversation covers the dramatic increase in conditions such as autism, type 1 and type 2 diabetes, obesity, eczema, asthma, and autoimmune disorders observed over the past three decades. Dr. Mumper and Dr. Paul examine contributing factors including environmental toxin exposure, dietary changes, and vaccine-related concerns, drawing on their combined clinical experience and observations from practice. The discussion also addresses practical steps parents and families can take — including pre-conception preparation, nutritional support, toxin reduction in the home environment, and the role of informed decision-making — to support children's long-term health. The focus throughout is educational and informational, grounded in clinical context.

    Key Points (with Timestamps)

    • 1:35 — Guest introduction and episode overview — Dr. Paul introduces Dr. Liz Mumper, pediatrician and mentor, and frames the focus: chronic conditions in childhood.
    • 2:44 — The shift from acute to chronic illness — Dr. Mumper reflects on how pediatrics in the early 1980s centered on acute, treatable illnesses; today, chronic conditions dominate the landscape.
    • 3:40 — The rise of autism — Dr. Mumper describes the change in autism prevalence from approximately 1 in 5,000 children during her training to the current figure of approximately 1 in 31, with an even higher rate among boys in well-tracked states such as California.
    • 5:21 — Other chronic conditions on the rise — Type 1 and type 2 diabetes, obesity, eczema, allergies, asthma, and immune dysregulation are discussed, along with the role of diet, ultra-processed foods, and endocrine-disrupting chemicals.
    • 8:15 — Pre-conception and early childhood health — Dr. Mumper outlines proactive steps for families considering having children: starting at least six months before conception, optimizing diet, reducing pesticide and chemical exposures, and ensuring key nutritional levels including vitamin D, omega-3s, and methylated B vitamins.
    • 11:23 — Vaccine considerations in pregnancy and infancy — Both physicians share clinical concerns about maternal immune activation, the use of vaccines during pregnancy, and the cumulative aluminum load when multiple vaccines are administered simultaneously in infancy.
    • 15:07 — Modified and delayed vaccine schedules — Dr. Mumper and Dr. Paul discuss their experience with modified pediatric vaccine schedules, observations from unvaccinated siblings in their practices, and Dr. Mumper's patient chart review findings.
    • 19:21 — Parent observation and clinical trust — Dr. Mumper emphasizes that parents are reliable observers of their children and should be taken seriously when they report changes following a medical intervention.
    • 22:11 — Sudden infant death and temporal patterns — The physicians discuss the temporal clustering of sudden infant death relative to vaccine administration and the need to examine that relationship more rigorously.
    • 27:40 — Reducing environmental toxin exposure — Practical guidance on lead, mold, pesticides, cleaning products, and diet — including avoidance of fast food and ultra-processed foods, and attention to glyphosate in common agricultural products.
    • 30:07 — Acetaminophen and glutathione depletion — Dr. Mumper explains the mechanism by which acetaminophen depletes glutathione, affecting immune function, gut integrity, mitochondrial health, and detoxification.
    • 33:36 — Closing thoughts — Dr. Mumper encourages parents to trust their instincts, know their child, and seek clinicians who engage collaboratively. Dr. Paul echoes the importance of informed decision-making and the value of pausing before any irreversible medical intervention.

    Quote

    "I can't think of an example where the unvaccinated child was not the healthier sibling. They typically did not develop these chronic illnesses that we're talking about in terms of eczema and asthma and autism."
    — Liz Mumper, M.D.

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    Disclaimer

    The information shared in this episode is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. It does not establish a doctor–patient relationship. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional regarding medical decisions.

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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show 200: Pediatric Perspectives: Focusing on Chronic Disease with Liz Mumper, M.D.

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    What's driving the dramatic rise in chronic childhood illness — and what can parents do about it?

    Dr. Paul Thomas and Liz Mumper, M.D. in conversation on Pediatric Perspectives, Show 200 of With the Wind with Dr. Paul, discussing chronic childhood illness, environmental toxins, and informed decision-making for families.

    In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined by Liz Mumper, M.D. — a pediatrician with 45 years of clinical experience, founder of the Rimland Center for Integrative Medicine, and a leading trainer of clinicians who work with children with special needs through MAPS Medical Academy and Pediatric Special Needs. Dr. Mumper is also the author of Kids and COVID: Costly Mistakes That Must Never Happen Again. She is one of the physicians I most respect in this field, and this conversation is one I've wanted to have for a long time.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • How the landscape of pediatrics has shifted over four decades — from acute, treatable illness to pervasive chronic disease
    • The dramatic rise in autism, type 1 and type 2 diabetes, obesity, eczema, asthma, and autoimmune conditions — and the contributing factors both physicians have observed in practice
    • What parents planning to have children can do to prepare — including nutrition, toxin reduction, and key supplementation benchmarks
    • Clinical concerns about vaccine administration during pregnancy and infancy, including the aluminum load when multiple vaccines are given simultaneously
    • What Dr. Mumper observed in the unvaccinated siblings of children with vaccine-related health changes in her practice
    • Practical steps for reducing environmental toxin exposure in the home, and why acetaminophen deserves more caution than it typically receives