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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Podcast #204: Pediatric Perspectives: How GMOs Impact Health with Michelle Perro, M.D.

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    What parents need to know about genetically modified foods, hidden labeling, and the practical steps every family can take to protect their health.

    In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined by Michelle Perro, M.D. — integrative pediatrician, environmental medicine specialist, and CEO and founder of GMO Science — for a detailed look at how genetically modified organisms have reshaped the American food supply and what families can do to protect themselves. Dr. Perro began researching the intersection of GMOs, pesticides, and children's health in the early 2000s, and this conversation reflects more than two decades of that clinical work.

    Show Notes:

    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show #204: Pediatric Perspectives: How GMOs Impact Health with Michelle Perro, M.D.

    Host: Dr. Paul Thomas

    Guest: Michelle Perro, M.D. Integrative pediatrician and environmental medicine specialist; CEO and founder of GMO Science; author of What's Making Our Children Sick? and the forthcoming What's Making Our Children Well?

    Series: Pediatric Perspectives

    Length: Approximately 29 minutes

    Summary

    In this episode of With the Wind with Dr. Paul, Dr. Paul Thomas is joined by Michelle Perro, M.D. for a wide-ranging conversation on genetically modified organisms — how they entered the food supply, what the science shows about their effects on human health, and what families can do to reduce their exposure.

    Dr. Perro traces the history of GMOs from the suppressed early research of Dr. Arpad Pusztai at Scotland's Rowett Institute through the 2016 Dark Act that eliminated federal GMO labeling requirements in the United States. She explains how GMOs differ fundamentally from traditional plant hybridization, identifies the crops most commonly modified, and describes the compounding problem of pesticide escalation as weeds developed resistance to glyphosate-based herbicides. The conversation covers practical guidance for organic shopping, water filtration, and detox practices, and closes with emerging concerns around geoengineering, CRISPR technology, and mRNA vaccines being engineered into food plants.

    Key Points

    • 1:35 — Dr. Paul welcomes Dr. Michelle Perro; the episode focuses on GMO science and its effects on children's and family health
    • 2:20 — Dr. Perro's introduction to GMOs: Jeffrey Smith's Seeds of Deception and the suppressed research of Dr. Arpad Pusztai, whose studies at Scotland's Rowett Institute showed GMOs without pesticides caused leaky gut, reproductive issues, and immune disruption — Pusztai was fired two days after presenting his findings
    • 3:48 — The distinction between hybridization and genetic modification: hybridization selects traits through natural reproduction; GMOs use a gene gun to inject desired traits into a plant
    • 4:35 — Roundup Ready crops: engineered to survive glyphosate spraying; GMO crops include corn (97% of the U.S. supply), soy, canola, cotton, alfalfa, papayas, the Arctic apple, and the Innate potato
    • 6:02 — Pesticide escalation: as weeds developed resistance to glyphosate, more toxic herbicides were added; pesticide use has increased substantially alongside the spread of GMO crops
    • 6:15 — Labeling history: GMO Science was founded in 2014 to support California labeling legislation; the campaign was defeated by the Grocery Manufacturers Association; the 2016 Dark Act eliminated federal labeling requirements nationally; the term "GMO" has since been replaced on packaging with "bioengineered"
    • 8:04 — Microbiome disruption: GMO organisms exchange DNA with gut microbes through plasmids, generating new, uncharacterized microbial strains that produce novel proteins and trigger immune responses
    • 10:08 — Apeel coating: a produce coating derived from grapeseed extract containing solvents, toxicants, and heavy metals; cannot be washed off; extends shelf life up to three months; used by some major retailers including Whole Foods
    • 11:15 — Wheat is not a GMO crop, but Roundup is routinely applied as a desiccant at harvest, causing the plant to die and release seeds; oats, wheat, and legumes carry the highest glyphosate levels of any foods
    • 14:28 — Practical shopping guidance: buying all organic, confirming with grocers whether Apeel is used, washing produce with white vinegar and baking soda, supporting local farmers markets
    • 15:43 — Food as medicine and soul nourishment: preparing whole foods with care and intention; the philosophy behind choosing organic over processed food
    • 21:20 — Emerging threats: geoengineering combined with GMO technology, with 34 states examining legislation; mRNA vaccines being engineered into food plants; CRISPR-based genetic modification (GMO 2.0); Dr. Perro calls on Secretary Kennedy to impose immediate oversight
    • 25:04 — Water and supplementation: filter all water; EWG for guidance on water systems; clean multivitamins; fermented foods and probiotics to support gut health
    • 26:20 — Detoxification: regular sweating through exercise or infrared sauna; weekly detox baths with Epsom salt, sea salt, baking soda, and boron for 15–20 minutes; rinse thoroughly after to prevent reabsorption of released toxins
    • 28:18 — Message of hope: grounding in nature, time with animals, gardening; research showing ten minutes lying in grass measurably reduces stress and improves blood markers; nourish mind, body, and spirit

    Quote

    "Food is medicine. So if we're not eating the best that we can afford, we're not taking care of this body that carries us through life." — Michelle Perro, M.D.

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    The information shared in this episode is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. It does not establish a doctor–patient relationship. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional regarding medical decisions.

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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show #204: Pediatric Perspectives: How GMOs Impact Health with Michelle Perro, M.D.

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    What parents need to know about genetically modified foods, hidden labeling, and the practical steps every family can take to protect their health.

    Dr. Paul Thomas and Michelle Perro, M.D. pictured against a colorful illustrated fruit and vegetable backdrop with episode title text overlay.

    In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined by Michelle Perro, M.D. — integrative pediatrician, environmental medicine specialist, and CEO and founder of GMO Science — for a detailed look at how genetically modified organisms have reshaped the American food supply and what families can do to protect themselves. Dr. Perro began researching the intersection of GMOs, pesticides, and children's health in the early 2000s, and this conversation reflects more than two decades of that clinical work.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • The history of GMO science and the suppression of early research showing harm to animal health
    • How genetic modification differs from traditional hybridization — and which crops are most affected
    • Why most Americans still don't know what's in their food, and what the 2016 Dark Act did to labeling
    • Apeel produce coatings, microbiome disruption, and the looming threats of geoengineering and mRNA vaccines in plants
    • How to shop organic, filter water, and support the body's natural detox processes
    • Dr. Perro's message of hope: grounding in nature as medicine for the whole family
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Podcast 203 — Pediatric Perspectives: Children's Health Updates with Peter McCullough, M.D.

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    What does one of the world's most published cardiologists say when he turns his full attention to the childhood vaccine schedule — and what's actually driving the national conversation right now?

    Dr. Paul Thomas sits down with Peter McCullough, M.D. — internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist, and author of the new book Vaccines, Mythology, Ideology and Reality — for one of the most substantive children's health conversations this show has hosted. Dr. McCullough has published over a thousand peer-reviewed articles, established the first life-saving treatment protocol for SARS-CoV-2, and has spent years leading the McCullough Foundation's systematic review of the vaccination literature. This is that conversation.

    Show Notes:

    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show 203 — Pediatric Perspectives: Children's Health Updates with Peter McCullough, M.D.

    Host: Dr. Paul Thomas

    Guest: Peter McCullough, M.D. — internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist

    Series: Pediatric Perspectives

    Length: Approximately 31 minutes

    Summary

    In this episode of With the Wind with Dr. Paul, Dr. Paul Thomas is joined by Peter McCullough, M.D. — internist, cardiologist, and epidemiologist — for a wide-ranging conversation on the childhood vaccine schedule and its relationship to children's health outcomes. Drawing on hundreds of peer-reviewed studies reviewed through the McCullough Foundation, Dr. McCullough walks through the mechanisms by which combination vaccination may contribute to inflammation in developing children, examines autism spectrum disorder through the lens of established causality criteria, and shares recent updates from ACIP and Capitol Hill. Dr. Thomas brings his own decades of pediatric practice to the conversation, including his observations on unvaccinated children and the growing concern among parents nationwide.

    This episode covers Segment 1 only. Content is educational and informational. No medical advice.

    Key Points

    • 1:35 — Dr. Paul introduces Dr. McCullough: his credentials, his work establishing early treatment protocols for SARS-CoV-2, and his new book Vaccines, Mythology, Ideology and Reality (co-authored with John Leake)
    • 3:26 — Dr. McCullough's personal vaccination history: vaccinated throughout childhood and career, including repeated measles shots after failing to mount immunity; total of 69 vaccines received over his lifetime
    • 5:59 — McCullough traces his professional journey from not thinking about the childhood schedule to reviewing hundreds of peer-reviewed studies through the McCullough Foundation
    • 10:03 — Discussion of the mechanisms of concern: cytokines stimulated by vaccines readily crossing into the developing brain, as well as the role of aluminum adjuvants; McCullough distinguishes aluminum CNS toxicity from autism and expresses greater concern about aluminum and long-term Alzheimer's risk
    • 12:35 — The 1986 Vaccine Injury Compensation Act: removal of liability from manufacturers and Justice Sotomayor's dissenting opinion warning that it would eliminate industry incentive to develop safer vaccines
    • 14:02 — Autism spectrum disorder: now 1 in 31 children as of 2022 CDC data; 27% with profound autism; McCullough applies Austin Bradford Hill causality criteria and discusses the Hannah Poling case — a 19-month-old whose vaccine-triggered autism was recognized by the vaccine injury compensation court in 2008
    • 16:38 — Risk factors framework for autism: older parental age (women over 35, men over 40), premature delivery before 37 weeks, common genetic variants, and combination vaccination as a potential trigger in susceptible individuals
    • 21:34 — Vaccination during pregnancy: McCullough references a JAMA randomized trial showing premature infants who received the vaccine schedule in the hospital had higher rates of apnea; Dr. Paul raises the connection to SIDS; Dr. Miller's data showing the vast majority of sudden infant deaths occur within days of a vaccine bundle
    • 26:36 — ACIP updates: RFK Jr. replaced the prior committee; recent changes include a vote against universal Covid-19 shots and discussion of delaying MMRv to age 4–6 for the booster dose; blowback has been significant despite the modest scope of the changes
    • 29:20 — MMRv vs. MMR: Dr. Paul notes that combining MMR with varicella doubles the seizure risk; approximately 17% of first-dose MMR vaccinations at 12–15 months use the combined MMRv
    • 30:46 — Varicella vaccine and shingles: five studies show recipients have higher rates of shingles as adults; Dr. Paul notes the trade-off between approximately 50–100 annual U.S. chickenpox deaths in 1995 and the resulting increase in shingles cases
    • 31:13 — A recent JAMA report showing only 40% of parents plan to follow the routine vaccine schedule; Dr. McCullough's closing thoughts on what a healthy child born today looks like

    Quote

    "When I count up 40 flu shots and everything else, I have taken 69 vaccines in my body." — Peter McCullough, M.D.

    Resources

    The information shared in this episode is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. It does not establish a doctor–patient relationship. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional regarding medical decisions.

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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show 203 — Pediatric Perspectives: Children's Health Updates with Peter McCullough, M.D.

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    What does one of the world's most published cardiologists say when he turns his full attention to the childhood vaccine schedule — and what's actually driving the national conversation right now?

    Dr. Paul Thomas and Peter McCullough, M.D. on Pediatric Perspectives, Show 203 of With the Wind, discussing children's health updates and vaccine schedule concerns on CHD TV.

    Dr. Paul Thomas sits down with Peter McCullough, M.D. — internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist, and author of the new book Vaccines, Mythology, Ideology and Reality — for one of the most substantive children's health conversations this show has hosted. Dr. McCullough has published over a thousand peer-reviewed articles, established the first life-saving treatment protocol for SARS-CoV-2, and has spent years leading the McCullough Foundation's systematic review of the vaccination literature. This is that conversation.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • Dr. McCullough's personal vaccination history — including receiving 69 vaccines over his lifetime — and how it shaped his evolving thinking on the schedule
    • The biological mechanisms of concern: how cytokines triggered by combination vaccination cross into the developing brain, and what the research shows about aluminum adjuvants
    • Autism spectrum disorder at 1 in 31 children: the causality criteria, the Hannah Poling case, and what hundreds of studies now suggest about risk
    • Vaccination during pregnancy, premature delivery, and apnea in hospitalized newborns — including a recent JAMA randomized trial
    • The latest ACIP changes under the new committee and what they actually mean for parents
    • Why a recent JAMA report found only 40% of parents plan to follow the routine schedule — and what Dr. McCullough says about that shift
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show 202: Pediatric Perspectives: Weight Loss Drugs for Kids with Michelle Perro, M.D.

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    What every parent should understand before considering GLP-1 weight loss drugs for their child — and what the evidence points to instead.

    Dr. Paul Thomas and Michelle Perro, M.D. on Pediatric Perspectives Show 202, weight loss drugs for children.

    In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined by integrative pediatrician Michelle Perro, M.D. — a clinician with 43 years of experience, an environmental medicine specialist, and the CEO and founder of GMO Science. Dr. Perro has spent decades studying how food, pesticides, and environmental toxicants affect children's health, and in this conversation she brings that perspective directly to bear on one of the most pressing issues in pediatrics today: childhood obesity and the growing push to treat it with GLP-1 agonist drugs.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • The scale of childhood obesity in the U.S. — and why Dr. Perro believes ultra-processed foods, GMOs, and pesticides are the primary drivers, not simply lifestyle choices
    • What GLP-1 hormones are and how GLP-1 agonist drugs work — and why they look promising on paper but raise serious questions when used in children who are still growing
    • The specific concerns Dr. Perro has identified: no long-term pediatric data, significant muscle loss, full weight rebound upon stopping, and side effects including gastroparesis, pancreatitis, and a black box warning for depression and suicidal ideation
    • Why every class of pesticide she has reviewed functions as an endocrine disruptor — and what that has to do with the obesity epidemic
    • Practical steps families can take right now, including how to shop, how to cook, and how to support children's microbiomes in ways that sustain healthy weight naturally
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Podcast 202: Pediatric Perspectives: Weight Loss Drugs for Kids with Michelle Perro, M.D.

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    What every parent should understand before considering GLP-1 weight loss drugs for their child — and what the evidence points to instead.

    In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined by integrative pediatrician Michelle Perro, M.D. — a clinician with 43 years of experience, an environmental medicine specialist, and the CEO and founder of GMO Science. Dr. Perro has spent decades studying how food, pesticides, and environmental toxicants affect children's health, and in this conversation she brings that perspective directly to bear on one of the most pressing issues in pediatrics today: childhood obesity and the growing push to treat it with GLP-1 agonist drugs.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • The scale of childhood obesity in the U.S. — and why Dr. Perro believes ultra-processed foods, GMOs, and pesticides are the primary drivers, not simply lifestyle choices
    • What GLP-1 hormones are and how GLP-1 agonist drugs work — and why they look promising on paper but raise serious questions when used in children who are still growing
    • The specific concerns Dr. Perro has identified: no long-term pediatric data, significant muscle loss, full weight rebound upon stopping, and side effects including gastroparesis, pancreatitis, and a black box warning for depression and suicidal ideation
    • Why every class of pesticide she has reviewed functions as an endocrine disruptor — and what that has to do with the obesity epidemic
    • Practical steps families can take right now, including how to shop, how to cook, and how to support children's microbiomes in ways that sustain healthy weight naturally