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With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Show 199 — Pediatric Perspectives: Risking Everything with Suzanne Humphries, M.D.
Speakers' Speaking Times
Total Segment Duration: 23:50
Transcript00:01:35:10 - 00:01:55:35
Dr. Paul Good morning CD. Good morning world. Welcome to Pediatric Perspectives. We are looking at children's health challenges from a different perspective, one that includes critical thinking. I have one of the world's most important critical thinkers joining me today. We're going to give you the honest truth. Welcome back, Doctor Suzanne Humphreys. It's so good to have you back.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Hello, doctor Thomas, good to see you again.
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Dr. Paul So I have the utmost respect for you. For a couple reasons. I didn't know who you were until I read Dissolving Illusions. And then I heard that you were on the Vaxed bus, and I. I was aware of that. And I thought, wow, what an amazing doctor. It's not easy to get on a bus and ride around the country.
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Dr. Paul And you all were documenting stories, I believe, from families mostly that that had children who were affected by vaccines. Is that pretty much what was going on?
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Right. So I jumped on the bus at the end of 2016, after I had met the Vaxed crew in California, where I was doing a talk, I think it was at a chiropractic conference, and I had heard Doctor Wakefield and I heard Big Tree endorse my book. And so I was really happy to meet them. And then I got to meet Polly as well.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And she had read my autobiography, and she really liked that. And so I was invited on the bus by Patrick Layton, who was driving the bus at the time. And so I did a little tour. And then at the end of that year, they invited me to come lock for a longer tour. So I was on there.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D I think it was actually more than a year, although we did take some time off here and there, it was something that was already established. I had nothing to do with the vaccine. One movie, and I had nothing to do with getting the bus, and I had nothing to do with what Polly was. That was her thing. Like she just started walking around with the cell phone for a while, and those interviews became so popular that everything was built around that, which was great because it was, the first time anyone had done that.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And this was such massive audience and such massive amount of interviews that she carries on doing to this day. She's an interviewer, as you know.
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Dr. Paul Parents were being kicked out of other practices. If they didn't want to follow the CDC schedule and they would end up at my doorstep. And at one point for years, I was getting three, 4 or 5 new families a week. And I'm sitting across from a family that's telling the story of how their completely healthy child gets a vaccine or a series of vaccines often, and it was the MMR, but sometimes it was a series of vaccines, and they watched their child regress either immediately or sometimes shortly thereafter, into severe non-verbal autism.
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Dr. Paul And it was like, what is going on? And it's tragic to sit there and hear these stories. Can you share a little bit about what you were hearing and how that affected you?
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D So remember, I pretty much ignored, the childhood issue, for three years, four years, five years, even, because I felt like everybody was concentrating on autism and concentrating on the childhood vaccine schedule. And I was not a pediatrician, and I felt like it was best for me to stay in my area of, of education, which was in adults in the kidneys and, and so I was really looking at those vaccines.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And so that's where I was for the longest time. And then I spent some time on the bus, and I got a really quick education on the childhood vaccines and the potential to cause devastation and what autism really looked like. And I will never doubt it again. I will never I never doubted it in the first place, but I didn't.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D I didn't understand really what the autism was really like in real life, because growing up there was nobody in my sphere there. It was always like the one kid that had like the green snot coming out of his nose all the time and and the little too skinny and looked really unhealthy. But brain wise, they were. They seemed okay.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D The real sad part was seeing like how parents were would split apart and marriages would disintegrate. And sometimes, oftentimes the grandparents ended up having to take on the grandchildren. And some of these grandchildren grow really big and really strong and could become really difficult to control. And I'd see these little grandmas kind of like following these really big boys around that they had minimum control over.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And oh gosh, that that just still is etched in my memory. But also just hearing the stories and seeing the pictures and seeing the videos of how everything was fine. And then the shots come along and then the brain or the immune system or the cancers. And when it comes to Gardasil, the neuromuscular function or the gastrointestinal problems, it's not just all about autism.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D This, you name it, any organ can be affected by vaccination because we're really dealing with the immune system. So yeah, I actually had to leave the bus for some of that time. I kind of know how poly did it sets up behind that camera. I think for her it was just kind of a bit of retribution, maybe just because of what happened with her and Billy and how hard John worked at resuscitating Billy.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D So I, I couldn't handle it. So I would often stay outside talking to the people that were waiting in line.
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Dr. Paul I know exactly what you're talking about. And here's the thing. You can't unsee what you see, right? You can't unlearn what you've learned. And so people like you and I, who got this massive exposure to what was really going on, I feel like we had no choice but to share with the world. Hey, there's something really important here.
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Dr. Paul And you did it with your book Dissolving Illusions. You've done it with all the education you continue to do. So thank you for that. What would you say to our colleagues who just sort of write this off? Oh, that's that's garbage. Vaccines are safe and effective. I think you you spoke about lying studies to to sort of validate vaccine safety.
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Dr. Paul What do you say to all of that? Because we still have a large segment of the population don't get it. They still believe that the media narrative that vaccines are safe and effective.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Yeah. Well, I'm probably not the greatest person to ask that too, because I gave up on doctors. I just I just think the whole lot of them, with if they read the books that are available, not just my book, but any book that that talks about this issue, and they can walk away from it and still carry on doing what they're doing, then, you know, they're.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D There's got to be a reason. And it's not just one reason. Look, some of them are very much in debt, but I can tell you that I'm someone and so are you. It's like, okay, I'm in debt, but I'm going to get my way out of this and there's no way I'm going to stay trapped, and I'm not going to keep doing something that's completely against my conscience.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D So my doctors get it, they get it, and they they do something different. The problem, as I see it, and this is worldwide, is that when doctors do wake up and do want to do something different and do want to do really holistic care and take care of families and children and not jab them and help them get that status of not being jabbed, that it's a really difficult position to be in, as you're a prime example, is that they'll do you in.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D So I think, you know, it's much easier to just step out and start saying what we have to say than it is to try to stay in the centralized medical system or even out not in centralized medicine, because they can cancel you either way. But it's really hard to do both. It's really hard to talk about vaccines and do patient care because of the medical system that is going to do everything they can to bring you down, and the trolls will start feeding them information about, you know, what you're doing and set you up and send, you know, moles into your practice.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D So it is a difficult situation. So that's why for me, it's always been educate the parents. And I find the vast majority of parents this is just my experience okay. I'm not telling anybody not to vaccinate, but my experience is the vast majority of parents who don't vaccinate their kids in general do not need the medical system. And if they do need the medical system, it's usually because of a cut or because of a broken bone.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Yeah. In which case I think you can go in there. You have enough time to educate yourself on the issues and stand up for yourself politely but firmly.
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Dr. Paul Yeah, well, you led right into what I was going to ask you next, which is what's your understanding and observation about the health of the unvaccinated? And I remember with our first interview we had, you talked about this one family. You knew who they weren't vaccinating and how incredibly healthy their kids were. And then probably when you were on the bus, you you heard stories, I imagine, of maybe siblings of a vaccine, injured child or a vaccine affected child or otherwise affected child, not vaccinating.
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Dr. Paul And what what's been your observation now? I think you've probably seen enough, heard enough and read enough to to speak with some authority about the health of the unvaccinated.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Right. So I think the non-vaccinated children and infants have an absolute edge on their health, in the sense of an event, an advantage, I should say, an advantage on their health status because they're normal, you know, and a lot of people look at the non-vaccinated children and think, oh, look at, look at. They're so touchingly superhuman. They know that's normal.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D That's what it's supposed to look like. Now, that doesn't mean that your child can't become contaminated with toxic metal somewhere else. It doesn't mean that you can't feed them rubbish food, and they'll their immune system can be affected by it. So is the health of all vaccinated children pristine? No. They're still living on the same planet with us.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Their parents might not be awake to other other. You know, areas of health that need to be attended to. So to me, the biggest problem are people who don't vaccinate their kids don't really understand why they didn't vaccinate their kids can't stand up for themselves, don't teach their children why they're not vaccinated, and carry on living, you know, a lifestyle with the standard American diet and and do everything else, you know, non holistically.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D I think those people are the ones that are going to get themselves in trouble and probably not be the greatest, strongest members of our force as well.
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Dr. Paul You touched on it, but I'd like to massage it a little further. Your experience with cancer in kids, and is there a relationship at all with vaccines?
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D I can't give you statistics on this, but you know as well as I do that early on in your career, you would have seen very little cancer in children. You might have seen the occasional leukemia in children. And then all of a sudden now maybe it's just because they decided to get fancier, but I remember around the time I was leaving Maine in Bangor, Maine, they had opened up a Children's Cancer institute, and it was a huge building, and it was very well outfitted, and they were not short of a dime.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And I believe the vaccinated, unvaccinated studies will bring this out in color. And and that really I think the vaccinated unvaccinated studies that do exist does definitely show an advantage in the immune systems of the children that are not vaccinated in terms of allergies and immune deficiencies. So that plays right into cancer, because cancer by large part it's it's a toxin mediated disease, but it's also an immune mediated disease.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And our immune systems and toxins interplay with each other. So all your, you know, your, drainage systems and detox systems need to be in good shape if you're going to deal with life on this earth. But if you're going to start throwing these injections in with with animal DNA and viruses and retroviruses, etc. that aren't even quantified, let alone qualified in the vaccines, then it's to me, it's just a set up for problems.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And it's a very lucrative industry. The vaccine industry in the cancer industry are highly profitable. You know, the doctors that do really well and the, CEOs of companies that do really well are vaccines and cancer.
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Dr. Paul Yeah. No, it's so true. I, I, I sort of observed it or figured out a pattern. We highly vaccinate which suppresses the immune system rather than enhances it. And it triggers autoimmunity. So many of the vaccines have too much aluminum. And you've spoken extensively on this. And aluminum is a known trigger of auto immunity auto immunity drugs are another huge moneymaker.
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Dr. Paul I mean, it's like $100,000 a year per person. If you put on one of these newer autoimmune drugs and all they do is suppress the immune system and what happens when you suppress the immune system? You get cancer and you can't fight infections as well either. So we've got big moneymaker vaccines triggering auto immunity, among other things. Another big moneymaker for the immunosuppressants triggering cancer.
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Dr. Paul Huge moneymaker. I think it's number one now. The whole system is a mess. You know, there are still parents who are maybe can't quite go there as far as doing none. And if that's where you're at, I would encourage you to read my latest book, VAX Facts, because that that will give you informed consent on everything in a way that you can understand and make a really informed decision.
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Dr. Paul But for from your research and understanding, Suzanne, Doctor Humphreys, what are the vaccines that were you the most?
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Well, first, I love facts. Facts that I have. I have a copy of it now hard copy. And I went through and I thought, oh, this is great, I wish I thought of this, you know, how you put it together and you know all that information. Absolutely fantastic. So I endorse that book. Thank you. Are there some facts?
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Okay. With the way I look at it, is if we were to stop vaccinating for spur, which for some vaccines, which ones would get the least argument from a biological standpoint or from this? You know, herd immunity idea and you know, so so stop vaccinating pregnant women full stop to stop it.
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Dr. Paul Just agreed.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Yeah. All pregnancy vaccines should end. You know, a pregnant woman that's a should be a protected relationship there. So birth. No vaccines at birth. No hepatitis B vaccines at birth. Zero. We will not have any herd immunity problem with that happens. Because there's no herd immunity that happens from flu shots. There's no herd immunity that happens from pertussis shots or for Covid shots.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And Anthony Fauci and morons wrote a paper basically telling us that the flu shots and the Covid shots basically are terrible in terms of providing herd immunity or personal immunity. And, they wax poetic about it. And I bring up that article all the time. In terms of pertussis, the more vaccines a person gets, the more IgG4 that is produced.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And IgG4 is something that allergy doctors love, because what it does is it causes energy and energy by which means that your immune system stops responding to that particular thing. So that's a fact. And that's why we see so much pertussis in older children who have had several vaccines. And in adults, the problems we we're going to run into with the with the facts files if we were to stop vaccinating are mostly the viral vaccines.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D The you know, in particular measles. If anyone's going to be worried about chickenpox, I can pretty much ignore them. But I do think that these what happens is these vaccines have created a situation which I talk about all the time, where before they were invented, the babies and the mothers were protected. The mother was able to provide good protection through the placenta and her breast milk.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And then after the vaccines were invented and younger people started getting vaccinated, that that basically stopped the transmission of the disease. And that particular group. But as time has gone by and the real people that were immune, the herd, like my parents and their parents have died off now there's just the rest of us, the vaccine immune.
00:17:16:36 - 00:17:40:06
Suzanne Humphries, M.D And that's why we're seeing resurgences. So because the vaccines fail. So they've set up a bit of a pickle here. Now to the point where some of our heroes like Peter Obey and Christine Ben are saying that even after measles is eradicated, we should continue to give measles vaccines because it's so wonderful from the nonspecific effects. And I'm just sorry, I will never accept that, ever.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D So we're going to have problems from all over the place with, with measles. So, you know, I'm not I'm not going to go there now because it's just a theoretical discussion as far as mumps is a ridiculous vaccine, it should never have been invented. We get breakthrough all the time. We know that Merck falsified their studies to prove the efficacy, and that even in a court of law that Merck still wins.
00:18:03:04 - 00:18:17:56
Suzanne Humphries, M.D So what else have we got? Gardasil. Stop it. Gardasil, HPV vaccines stop immediately. Less crippling, less problems in children. Teenagers. They are the amount of people I remember back in the good old days, we thought Gardasil was the worst thing that ever happened.
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Dr. Paul Yeah. In common.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And we were showing. Look at all these Gardasil injuries. If you add them all up, it's more than all the other injuries for X amount of time. And now here we are. Here we are. It's always this is my problem is I just keep seeing people keep going. We're winning. We're winning. We're making headway. And I'm going okay, in your head we are.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D But in reality they just keep throwing worse insults at us. And then if by some miracle, they decide to stop recommending a murderous vaccine to pregnant women and six month old babies, we're going to go, yeah, like this is the position they have us in, is that they've made it so bad, it's like it's insult to injury. And if they remove some of the insult, we're supposed to celebrate like this is what's happened.
00:19:03:26 - 00:19:27:24
Suzanne Humphries, M.D Like, look here, not there. And I just think the whole thing is be burned to the ground, quite frankly. But I think that it needs to be burned to the ground in a controlled burn. And I've outlined to you which about flu shots. Stop them. Covid shots stop them. So there's a few vaccines maybe that we'll have to be a little more careful about stopping, you know, the ones that you and I had tetanus vaccines that should be elective.
00:19:27:24 - 00:19:42:01
Suzanne Humphries, M.D When when the child is older, you do. You don't need to give a baby a tetanus vaccine. And I know you and James Sears have talked, you know, a lot about the difference between vaccinating a newborn, a three month old versus a two year old. And, you know, to give one at a time, like I'm I'm a total anti-vaxxer, okay?
00:19:42:01 - 00:20:07:56
Suzanne Humphries, M.D I'm a completely unapologetic anti-vaxxer, and I always will be because I know the facts. I know the immunology. I know the difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated. I know how to deal with diseases if they happen. I've treated tetanus. I'm not worried about it. I know how to clean a wound, so I'm a total anti-vaxxer, but I know everybody else isn't, and I know that I'm on the other end of the spectrum where, especially when it comes to doctors, there's not that many of us.
00:20:08:01 - 00:20:23:07
Suzanne Humphries, M.D So I get that. So, I'm willing to still talk, negotiate. I'm not someone who's going to slam somebody out of the way for fully going on to the vaccine program. In fact, a lot of my patients have done just that. And then I'm cleaning up the mess that's that's occurred as a result of it.
00:20:23:08 - 00:20:43:04
Dr. Paul So what if we get rid of mandates because that's just wrong to force people to take a medical procedure and those who want vaccines, they can have them. And what would happen if most of us decided we don't want these vaccines? Because we've done our research, as you have, and I now have took me a little longer than you.
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Dr. Paul And there's no safe vaccine on the childhood schedule, period. So at this point, I'm also an anti-vaxxer because we don't have a safe vaccine. We don't even have a single one. That was properly tested for safety. However, if you aren't comfortable with how you want your child to die, I say in the book, in the book VAX facts that you are more likely to die from the vaccine than you are from the disease for which there is a vaccine.
00:21:08:12 - 00:21:24:26
Dr. Paul And this is true for every single vaccine on the childhood schedule. It's still a death. It's still super rare, but you're much more likely to die from the vaccine. So which do you want? You want a greater chance of dying from the vaccine, or lesser chance of dying from the disease, and of course, from many of these diseases.
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Dr. Paul The risk is zero. What would happen if we just stopped those who wanted to stop? I mean, if you want the vaccine because you're scared of those unvaccinated people, go get the vaccine.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Again, this is a theoretical discussion because I don't think mandate to go in anywhere. I don't I don't care what politicians we have helping us out, because if mandates were to stop and the board were to really get out and parents and mass and adults and teenagers stop taking vaccines, the these companies would crash. This is something to talk to a financial person about.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D But I just know that that's not going to be allowed to happen. And and vaccines have been protected since the time of Jenner. But the protective, coating around the entire vaccine program, I think has only become thicker, not not weaker over time. But I theoretically I agree with you. I've absolutely. And I think there are lots of parents who are just doing that already.
00:22:14:23 - 00:22:37:37
Suzanne Humphries, M.D You know, they're living off grid, in a lot of ways. And even if they're on grid, they're homeschooling or, you know, just just decided that they're not going to do the vaccines and, and the what I always say is, once you're born, there's no guarantees for a long life, but they are risk benefit ratios to all of your decisions.
00:22:37:41 - 00:23:00:44
Suzanne Humphries, M.D And I believe that when you add up all those decisions that the risk benefit ratio for the vast majority of people favors staying away from vaccines, getting good sunlight, and staying away from drugs whenever possible, using food as your medicine and having good nutrition and hydration. You know, drink water. I know that sounds crazy, but I'm a candy specialist.
00:23:00:55 - 00:23:26:22
Suzanne Humphries, M.D I think I'm maybe have a little bit of, you know, credibility in this area. Most people are walking around dehydrated, and if you're dehydrated, the electricity in your body isn't going to be adequate. And your if your minerals aren't aren't in good condition, your electricity isn't going to be adequate. And we're electric beings. And if that if that gets interrupted for any reason, then your immune system isn't going to be working as well as possible.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D So that's my $0.02 on on where health comes from and, and and that people should just do it and they'll say, well, I can't send my kid to school and we have to have two incomes. Well, you know, that's a choice you made. You made a choice to have children, and you made a choice to have whatever you have around with your two incomes.
00:23:43:02 - 00:23:59:38
Suzanne Humphries, M.D But I just know so many people who decided that maybe they didn't need all that money and that they could simplify their lifestyle. Look, I went and lived in a tent for a year and a half, just, you know, and if I had kids, I'd have brought them with me. And there was nothing. There was. There is still nothing, aside of.
00:23:59:46 - 00:24:16:38
Suzanne Humphries, M.D So maybe throwing me in jail that could get me to ever take a vaccine. Yeah. Because, look, if they're going to throw you in jail, they're going to vaccinate you against your will. And that's my logic on that. It's not because I'm afraid of jail just because I'm not stupid. And I know that I can go to jail and get a vaccine, or I can get a vaccine, maybe, and not go to jail.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D So that's that's kind of where I come from on that.
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Dr. Paul Yeah. I am going to have you back one more time to talk about natural ways of dealing with that what if scenario of I got measles or I got some disease, whether there's a vaccine for it or not, because believe it or not, you are extraordinarily knowledgeable in this area. So I, I'm going to pick your brain on that if that's okay.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Okay. What's left of it. You can have more pieces.
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Dr. Paul And and then we'll also wrap it up with, you know, what parents should do. And you sort of touched on it with, with the end of this interview, but I'm so grateful to you. We're going to put up for you all how to get Ahold of, Doctor Suzanne Humphreys. Information. And thanks for being on the show.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Sure. Thank you.
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Dr. Paul Folks. You can find me at Kids First forever.com. I coach, and I'm also on doctors and science.com. It is always great to be with you. We'll see you again next week.
Speakers' Speaking Times
- Dr. Paul: 28.0% (6:40)
- Suzanne Humphries, M.D.: 71.7% (17:05)
Total Segment Duration: 23:50
Transcript00:01:35:10 - 00:01:55:35
Dr. Paul Good morning CD. Good morning world. Welcome to Pediatric Perspectives. We are looking at children's health challenges from a different perspective, one that includes critical thinking. I have one of the world's most important critical thinkers joining me today. We're going to give you the honest truth. Welcome back, Doctor Suzanne Humphreys. It's so good to have you back.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Hello, doctor Thomas, good to see you again.
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Dr. Paul So I have the utmost respect for you. For a couple reasons. I didn't know who you were until I read Dissolving Illusions. And then I heard that you were on the Vaxed bus, and I. I was aware of that. And I thought, wow, what an amazing doctor. It's not easy to get on a bus and ride around the country.
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Dr. Paul And you all were documenting stories, I believe, from families mostly that that had children who were affected by vaccines. Is that pretty much what was going on?
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Right. So I jumped on the bus at the end of 2016, after I had met the Vaxed crew in California, where I was doing a talk, I think it was at a chiropractic conference, and I had heard Doctor Wakefield and I heard Big Tree endorse my book. And so I was really happy to meet them. And then I got to meet Polly as well.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And she had read my autobiography, and she really liked that. And so I was invited on the bus by Patrick Layton, who was driving the bus at the time. And so I did a little tour. And then at the end of that year, they invited me to come lock for a longer tour. So I was on there.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D I think it was actually more than a year, although we did take some time off here and there, it was something that was already established. I had nothing to do with the vaccine. One movie, and I had nothing to do with getting the bus, and I had nothing to do with what Polly was. That was her thing. Like she just started walking around with the cell phone for a while, and those interviews became so popular that everything was built around that, which was great because it was, the first time anyone had done that.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And this was such massive audience and such massive amount of interviews that she carries on doing to this day. She's an interviewer, as you know.
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Dr. Paul Parents were being kicked out of other practices. If they didn't want to follow the CDC schedule and they would end up at my doorstep. And at one point for years, I was getting three, 4 or 5 new families a week. And I'm sitting across from a family that's telling the story of how their completely healthy child gets a vaccine or a series of vaccines often, and it was the MMR, but sometimes it was a series of vaccines, and they watched their child regress either immediately or sometimes shortly thereafter, into severe non-verbal autism.
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Dr. Paul And it was like, what is going on? And it's tragic to sit there and hear these stories. Can you share a little bit about what you were hearing and how that affected you?
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D So remember, I pretty much ignored, the childhood issue, for three years, four years, five years, even, because I felt like everybody was concentrating on autism and concentrating on the childhood vaccine schedule. And I was not a pediatrician, and I felt like it was best for me to stay in my area of, of education, which was in adults in the kidneys and, and so I was really looking at those vaccines.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And so that's where I was for the longest time. And then I spent some time on the bus, and I got a really quick education on the childhood vaccines and the potential to cause devastation and what autism really looked like. And I will never doubt it again. I will never I never doubted it in the first place, but I didn't.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D I didn't understand really what the autism was really like in real life, because growing up there was nobody in my sphere there. It was always like the one kid that had like the green snot coming out of his nose all the time and and the little too skinny and looked really unhealthy. But brain wise, they were. They seemed okay.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D The real sad part was seeing like how parents were would split apart and marriages would disintegrate. And sometimes, oftentimes the grandparents ended up having to take on the grandchildren. And some of these grandchildren grow really big and really strong and could become really difficult to control. And I'd see these little grandmas kind of like following these really big boys around that they had minimum control over.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And oh gosh, that that just still is etched in my memory. But also just hearing the stories and seeing the pictures and seeing the videos of how everything was fine. And then the shots come along and then the brain or the immune system or the cancers. And when it comes to Gardasil, the neuromuscular function or the gastrointestinal problems, it's not just all about autism.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D This, you name it, any organ can be affected by vaccination because we're really dealing with the immune system. So yeah, I actually had to leave the bus for some of that time. I kind of know how poly did it sets up behind that camera. I think for her it was just kind of a bit of retribution, maybe just because of what happened with her and Billy and how hard John worked at resuscitating Billy.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D So I, I couldn't handle it. So I would often stay outside talking to the people that were waiting in line.
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Dr. Paul I know exactly what you're talking about. And here's the thing. You can't unsee what you see, right? You can't unlearn what you've learned. And so people like you and I, who got this massive exposure to what was really going on, I feel like we had no choice but to share with the world. Hey, there's something really important here.
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Dr. Paul And you did it with your book Dissolving Illusions. You've done it with all the education you continue to do. So thank you for that. What would you say to our colleagues who just sort of write this off? Oh, that's that's garbage. Vaccines are safe and effective. I think you you spoke about lying studies to to sort of validate vaccine safety.
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Dr. Paul What do you say to all of that? Because we still have a large segment of the population don't get it. They still believe that the media narrative that vaccines are safe and effective.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Yeah. Well, I'm probably not the greatest person to ask that too, because I gave up on doctors. I just I just think the whole lot of them, with if they read the books that are available, not just my book, but any book that that talks about this issue, and they can walk away from it and still carry on doing what they're doing, then, you know, they're.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D There's got to be a reason. And it's not just one reason. Look, some of them are very much in debt, but I can tell you that I'm someone and so are you. It's like, okay, I'm in debt, but I'm going to get my way out of this and there's no way I'm going to stay trapped, and I'm not going to keep doing something that's completely against my conscience.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D So my doctors get it, they get it, and they they do something different. The problem, as I see it, and this is worldwide, is that when doctors do wake up and do want to do something different and do want to do really holistic care and take care of families and children and not jab them and help them get that status of not being jabbed, that it's a really difficult position to be in, as you're a prime example, is that they'll do you in.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D So I think, you know, it's much easier to just step out and start saying what we have to say than it is to try to stay in the centralized medical system or even out not in centralized medicine, because they can cancel you either way. But it's really hard to do both. It's really hard to talk about vaccines and do patient care because of the medical system that is going to do everything they can to bring you down, and the trolls will start feeding them information about, you know, what you're doing and set you up and send, you know, moles into your practice.
00:09:07:45 - 00:09:32:45
Suzanne Humphries, M.D So it is a difficult situation. So that's why for me, it's always been educate the parents. And I find the vast majority of parents this is just my experience okay. I'm not telling anybody not to vaccinate, but my experience is the vast majority of parents who don't vaccinate their kids in general do not need the medical system. And if they do need the medical system, it's usually because of a cut or because of a broken bone.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Yeah. In which case I think you can go in there. You have enough time to educate yourself on the issues and stand up for yourself politely but firmly.
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Dr. Paul Yeah, well, you led right into what I was going to ask you next, which is what's your understanding and observation about the health of the unvaccinated? And I remember with our first interview we had, you talked about this one family. You knew who they weren't vaccinating and how incredibly healthy their kids were. And then probably when you were on the bus, you you heard stories, I imagine, of maybe siblings of a vaccine, injured child or a vaccine affected child or otherwise affected child, not vaccinating.
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Dr. Paul And what what's been your observation now? I think you've probably seen enough, heard enough and read enough to to speak with some authority about the health of the unvaccinated.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Right. So I think the non-vaccinated children and infants have an absolute edge on their health, in the sense of an event, an advantage, I should say, an advantage on their health status because they're normal, you know, and a lot of people look at the non-vaccinated children and think, oh, look at, look at. They're so touchingly superhuman. They know that's normal.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D That's what it's supposed to look like. Now, that doesn't mean that your child can't become contaminated with toxic metal somewhere else. It doesn't mean that you can't feed them rubbish food, and they'll their immune system can be affected by it. So is the health of all vaccinated children pristine? No. They're still living on the same planet with us.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Their parents might not be awake to other other. You know, areas of health that need to be attended to. So to me, the biggest problem are people who don't vaccinate their kids don't really understand why they didn't vaccinate their kids can't stand up for themselves, don't teach their children why they're not vaccinated, and carry on living, you know, a lifestyle with the standard American diet and and do everything else, you know, non holistically.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D I think those people are the ones that are going to get themselves in trouble and probably not be the greatest, strongest members of our force as well.
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Dr. Paul You touched on it, but I'd like to massage it a little further. Your experience with cancer in kids, and is there a relationship at all with vaccines?
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D I can't give you statistics on this, but you know as well as I do that early on in your career, you would have seen very little cancer in children. You might have seen the occasional leukemia in children. And then all of a sudden now maybe it's just because they decided to get fancier, but I remember around the time I was leaving Maine in Bangor, Maine, they had opened up a Children's Cancer institute, and it was a huge building, and it was very well outfitted, and they were not short of a dime.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And I believe the vaccinated, unvaccinated studies will bring this out in color. And and that really I think the vaccinated unvaccinated studies that do exist does definitely show an advantage in the immune systems of the children that are not vaccinated in terms of allergies and immune deficiencies. So that plays right into cancer, because cancer by large part it's it's a toxin mediated disease, but it's also an immune mediated disease.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And our immune systems and toxins interplay with each other. So all your, you know, your, drainage systems and detox systems need to be in good shape if you're going to deal with life on this earth. But if you're going to start throwing these injections in with with animal DNA and viruses and retroviruses, etc. that aren't even quantified, let alone qualified in the vaccines, then it's to me, it's just a set up for problems.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And it's a very lucrative industry. The vaccine industry in the cancer industry are highly profitable. You know, the doctors that do really well and the, CEOs of companies that do really well are vaccines and cancer.
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Dr. Paul Yeah. No, it's so true. I, I, I sort of observed it or figured out a pattern. We highly vaccinate which suppresses the immune system rather than enhances it. And it triggers autoimmunity. So many of the vaccines have too much aluminum. And you've spoken extensively on this. And aluminum is a known trigger of auto immunity auto immunity drugs are another huge moneymaker.
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Dr. Paul I mean, it's like $100,000 a year per person. If you put on one of these newer autoimmune drugs and all they do is suppress the immune system and what happens when you suppress the immune system? You get cancer and you can't fight infections as well either. So we've got big moneymaker vaccines triggering auto immunity, among other things. Another big moneymaker for the immunosuppressants triggering cancer.
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Dr. Paul Huge moneymaker. I think it's number one now. The whole system is a mess. You know, there are still parents who are maybe can't quite go there as far as doing none. And if that's where you're at, I would encourage you to read my latest book, VAX Facts, because that that will give you informed consent on everything in a way that you can understand and make a really informed decision.
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Dr. Paul But for from your research and understanding, Suzanne, Doctor Humphreys, what are the vaccines that were you the most?
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Well, first, I love facts. Facts that I have. I have a copy of it now hard copy. And I went through and I thought, oh, this is great, I wish I thought of this, you know, how you put it together and you know all that information. Absolutely fantastic. So I endorse that book. Thank you. Are there some facts?
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Okay. With the way I look at it, is if we were to stop vaccinating for spur, which for some vaccines, which ones would get the least argument from a biological standpoint or from this? You know, herd immunity idea and you know, so so stop vaccinating pregnant women full stop to stop it.
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Dr. Paul Just agreed.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Yeah. All pregnancy vaccines should end. You know, a pregnant woman that's a should be a protected relationship there. So birth. No vaccines at birth. No hepatitis B vaccines at birth. Zero. We will not have any herd immunity problem with that happens. Because there's no herd immunity that happens from flu shots. There's no herd immunity that happens from pertussis shots or for Covid shots.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And Anthony Fauci and morons wrote a paper basically telling us that the flu shots and the Covid shots basically are terrible in terms of providing herd immunity or personal immunity. And, they wax poetic about it. And I bring up that article all the time. In terms of pertussis, the more vaccines a person gets, the more IgG4 that is produced.
00:16:02:35 - 00:16:32:23
Suzanne Humphries, M.D And IgG4 is something that allergy doctors love, because what it does is it causes energy and energy by which means that your immune system stops responding to that particular thing. So that's a fact. And that's why we see so much pertussis in older children who have had several vaccines. And in adults, the problems we we're going to run into with the with the facts files if we were to stop vaccinating are mostly the viral vaccines.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D The you know, in particular measles. If anyone's going to be worried about chickenpox, I can pretty much ignore them. But I do think that these what happens is these vaccines have created a situation which I talk about all the time, where before they were invented, the babies and the mothers were protected. The mother was able to provide good protection through the placenta and her breast milk.
00:16:54:26 - 00:17:16:36
Suzanne Humphries, M.D And then after the vaccines were invented and younger people started getting vaccinated, that that basically stopped the transmission of the disease. And that particular group. But as time has gone by and the real people that were immune, the herd, like my parents and their parents have died off now there's just the rest of us, the vaccine immune.
00:17:16:36 - 00:17:40:06
Suzanne Humphries, M.D And that's why we're seeing resurgences. So because the vaccines fail. So they've set up a bit of a pickle here. Now to the point where some of our heroes like Peter Obey and Christine Ben are saying that even after measles is eradicated, we should continue to give measles vaccines because it's so wonderful from the nonspecific effects. And I'm just sorry, I will never accept that, ever.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D So we're going to have problems from all over the place with, with measles. So, you know, I'm not I'm not going to go there now because it's just a theoretical discussion as far as mumps is a ridiculous vaccine, it should never have been invented. We get breakthrough all the time. We know that Merck falsified their studies to prove the efficacy, and that even in a court of law that Merck still wins.
00:18:03:04 - 00:18:17:56
Suzanne Humphries, M.D So what else have we got? Gardasil. Stop it. Gardasil, HPV vaccines stop immediately. Less crippling, less problems in children. Teenagers. They are the amount of people I remember back in the good old days, we thought Gardasil was the worst thing that ever happened.
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Dr. Paul Yeah. In common.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D And we were showing. Look at all these Gardasil injuries. If you add them all up, it's more than all the other injuries for X amount of time. And now here we are. Here we are. It's always this is my problem is I just keep seeing people keep going. We're winning. We're winning. We're making headway. And I'm going okay, in your head we are.
00:18:36:56 - 00:19:03:26
Suzanne Humphries, M.D But in reality they just keep throwing worse insults at us. And then if by some miracle, they decide to stop recommending a murderous vaccine to pregnant women and six month old babies, we're going to go, yeah, like this is the position they have us in, is that they've made it so bad, it's like it's insult to injury. And if they remove some of the insult, we're supposed to celebrate like this is what's happened.
00:19:03:26 - 00:19:27:24
Suzanne Humphries, M.D Like, look here, not there. And I just think the whole thing is be burned to the ground, quite frankly. But I think that it needs to be burned to the ground in a controlled burn. And I've outlined to you which about flu shots. Stop them. Covid shots stop them. So there's a few vaccines maybe that we'll have to be a little more careful about stopping, you know, the ones that you and I had tetanus vaccines that should be elective.
00:19:27:24 - 00:19:42:01
Suzanne Humphries, M.D When when the child is older, you do. You don't need to give a baby a tetanus vaccine. And I know you and James Sears have talked, you know, a lot about the difference between vaccinating a newborn, a three month old versus a two year old. And, you know, to give one at a time, like I'm I'm a total anti-vaxxer, okay?
00:19:42:01 - 00:20:07:56
Suzanne Humphries, M.D I'm a completely unapologetic anti-vaxxer, and I always will be because I know the facts. I know the immunology. I know the difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated. I know how to deal with diseases if they happen. I've treated tetanus. I'm not worried about it. I know how to clean a wound, so I'm a total anti-vaxxer, but I know everybody else isn't, and I know that I'm on the other end of the spectrum where, especially when it comes to doctors, there's not that many of us.
00:20:08:01 - 00:20:23:07
Suzanne Humphries, M.D So I get that. So, I'm willing to still talk, negotiate. I'm not someone who's going to slam somebody out of the way for fully going on to the vaccine program. In fact, a lot of my patients have done just that. And then I'm cleaning up the mess that's that's occurred as a result of it.
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Dr. Paul So what if we get rid of mandates because that's just wrong to force people to take a medical procedure and those who want vaccines, they can have them. And what would happen if most of us decided we don't want these vaccines? Because we've done our research, as you have, and I now have took me a little longer than you.
00:20:43:09 - 00:21:07:58
Dr. Paul And there's no safe vaccine on the childhood schedule, period. So at this point, I'm also an anti-vaxxer because we don't have a safe vaccine. We don't even have a single one. That was properly tested for safety. However, if you aren't comfortable with how you want your child to die, I say in the book, in the book VAX facts that you are more likely to die from the vaccine than you are from the disease for which there is a vaccine.
00:21:08:12 - 00:21:24:26
Dr. Paul And this is true for every single vaccine on the childhood schedule. It's still a death. It's still super rare, but you're much more likely to die from the vaccine. So which do you want? You want a greater chance of dying from the vaccine, or lesser chance of dying from the disease, and of course, from many of these diseases.
00:21:24:26 - 00:21:33:33
Dr. Paul The risk is zero. What would happen if we just stopped those who wanted to stop? I mean, if you want the vaccine because you're scared of those unvaccinated people, go get the vaccine.
00:21:33:35 - 00:21:52:50
Suzanne Humphries, M.D Again, this is a theoretical discussion because I don't think mandate to go in anywhere. I don't I don't care what politicians we have helping us out, because if mandates were to stop and the board were to really get out and parents and mass and adults and teenagers stop taking vaccines, the these companies would crash. This is something to talk to a financial person about.
00:21:52:50 - 00:22:14:10
Suzanne Humphries, M.D But I just know that that's not going to be allowed to happen. And and vaccines have been protected since the time of Jenner. But the protective, coating around the entire vaccine program, I think has only become thicker, not not weaker over time. But I theoretically I agree with you. I've absolutely. And I think there are lots of parents who are just doing that already.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D You know, they're living off grid, in a lot of ways. And even if they're on grid, they're homeschooling or, you know, just just decided that they're not going to do the vaccines and, and the what I always say is, once you're born, there's no guarantees for a long life, but they are risk benefit ratios to all of your decisions.
00:22:37:41 - 00:23:00:44
Suzanne Humphries, M.D And I believe that when you add up all those decisions that the risk benefit ratio for the vast majority of people favors staying away from vaccines, getting good sunlight, and staying away from drugs whenever possible, using food as your medicine and having good nutrition and hydration. You know, drink water. I know that sounds crazy, but I'm a candy specialist.
00:23:00:55 - 00:23:26:22
Suzanne Humphries, M.D I think I'm maybe have a little bit of, you know, credibility in this area. Most people are walking around dehydrated, and if you're dehydrated, the electricity in your body isn't going to be adequate. And your if your minerals aren't aren't in good condition, your electricity isn't going to be adequate. And we're electric beings. And if that if that gets interrupted for any reason, then your immune system isn't going to be working as well as possible.
00:23:26:26 - 00:23:42:57
Suzanne Humphries, M.D So that's my $0.02 on on where health comes from and, and and that people should just do it and they'll say, well, I can't send my kid to school and we have to have two incomes. Well, you know, that's a choice you made. You made a choice to have children, and you made a choice to have whatever you have around with your two incomes.
00:23:43:02 - 00:23:59:38
Suzanne Humphries, M.D But I just know so many people who decided that maybe they didn't need all that money and that they could simplify their lifestyle. Look, I went and lived in a tent for a year and a half, just, you know, and if I had kids, I'd have brought them with me. And there was nothing. There was. There is still nothing, aside of.
00:23:59:46 - 00:24:16:38
Suzanne Humphries, M.D So maybe throwing me in jail that could get me to ever take a vaccine. Yeah. Because, look, if they're going to throw you in jail, they're going to vaccinate you against your will. And that's my logic on that. It's not because I'm afraid of jail just because I'm not stupid. And I know that I can go to jail and get a vaccine, or I can get a vaccine, maybe, and not go to jail.
00:24:16:43 - 00:24:20:02
Suzanne Humphries, M.D So that's that's kind of where I come from on that.
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Dr. Paul Yeah. I am going to have you back one more time to talk about natural ways of dealing with that what if scenario of I got measles or I got some disease, whether there's a vaccine for it or not, because believe it or not, you are extraordinarily knowledgeable in this area. So I, I'm going to pick your brain on that if that's okay.
00:24:44:19 - 00:24:47:52
Suzanne Humphries, M.D Okay. What's left of it. You can have more pieces.
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Dr. Paul And and then we'll also wrap it up with, you know, what parents should do. And you sort of touched on it with, with the end of this interview, but I'm so grateful to you. We're going to put up for you all how to get Ahold of, Doctor Suzanne Humphreys. Information. And thanks for being on the show.
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Suzanne Humphries, M.D Sure. Thank you.
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Dr. Paul Folks. You can find me at Kids First forever.com. I coach, and I'm also on doctors and science.com. It is always great to be with you. We'll see you again next week.
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