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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul – Show 187: Pediatric Perspectives: Measles Without Fear with Lawrence Palevsky, M.D.

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    A critical look at measles, vaccines, and truth beyond fear

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    ​In this episode of With the Wind: SCIENCE Revealed, Dr. Paul Thomas welcomes back pediatrician Dr. Lawrence Palevsky for a powerful conversation on measles. Together, they explore history, natural immunity, and the fear-based messaging that dominates public health today. This discussion challenges assumptions and encourages parents to think critically about how we understand illness, vaccines, and healing.
    Looking Back at Measles Before Vaccines
    Dr. Palevsky recalls his own childhood experience with measles and reviews historical data. Mortality rates had already declined significantly before the measles vaccine was introduced in 1963. He emphasizes that the illness, when supported with nutrition, hydration, vitamins, and rest, was generally benign.
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul – Show 187: Pediatric Perspectives: Measles Without Fear with Lawrence Palevsky, M.D.

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    ​Measles Without Fear

    ​Vaccination, a “dangerous experiment”— but worth it to protect from illnesses like measles? Paul Thomas, M.D. and Lawrence Palevsky, M.D. aren’t convinced. It’s time to get to the bottom of the science on immunization and the viruses it claims to combat. Watch “Pediatric Perspectives,” this week, for the details!

    Show Notes:

    With the Wind with Dr. Paul – Show 187: Pediatric Perspectives: Measles Without Fear with Lawrence Palevsky, M.D.
    Title: Measles Without Fear with Lawrence Palevsky, M.D.
    Presenters: Dr. Paul, Lawrence Palevsky, M.D.
    Length: Approximately 60 minutes


    Web Resources Discussed


    Summary
    Dr. Paul welcomes back his colleague and pediatrician Dr. Lawrence Palevsky for an in-depth discussion on measles, public health messaging, and vaccine concerns. Together, they explore the history of measles before and after the vaccine, the reality of immunity, and recent events in Texas involving a child’s tragic death. They emphasize the importance of context, critical thinking, and honest assessment of risks. This conversation challenges fear-driven narratives and offers insight into safe, natural approaches to childhood health.


    Key Points (with time stamps)
    • 00:00:40 – Dr. Paul’s Intro: Announcement of VAX FACTS book release and ordering details.
    • 00:01:35 – Welcome: Dr. Paul introduces Pediatric Perspectives and guest Dr. Lawrence Palevsky.
    • 00:02:08 – Dr. Palevsky Joins: Expresses enthusiasm for discussing measles.
    • 00:02:42 – Setting the Stage: Dr. Paul outlines current fear-driven messaging about measles.
    • 00:02:52 – Historical Perspective: Dr. Palevsky recalls childhood measles and data showing mortality rates had dropped before the 1963 vaccine.
    • 00:03:55 – Natural Course of Illness: Dr. Palevsky describes measles as generally benign with good care, nutrition, hydration, and vitamins A, C, and D.
    • 00:05:30 – Fear vs. Reality: Dr. Paul notes measles was not feared in his practice or childhood. He expresses greater concern about today’s exaggerated responses.
    • 00:06:10 – Full Disclosure: Both doctors clarify they are sharing personal experiences, not medical advice.
    • 00:06:53 – Vaccine Myths: Dr. Palevsky critiques misconceptions — that measles is absent without symptoms and that vaccines eliminate the virus.
    • 00:07:59 – Waning Immunity: Dr. Paul emphasizes that natural infection gives lifelong protection, while vaccine immunity wanes.
    • 00:08:50 – Vaccine Failure: Dr. Palevsky explains that 2–10% of children do not develop antibodies after MMR, others develop non-protective antibodies, and even protective antibodies may only last months.
    • 00:10:51 – Propaganda and Fear: Notes that mothers and grandmothers once knew how to handle measles, but fear now dominates public perception.
    • 00:11:28 – Shedding from Vaccine: Live virus from MMR can persist in nasal passages for 30–100 days, raising concerns for immunocompromised individuals.
    • 00:12:17 – Immunocompromised Parents: Dr. Paul stresses that vaccinating a child in such households may expose vulnerable family members to live virus.
    • 00:13:33 – Texas Case: Dr. Palevsky details the tragic death of a child from a Mennonite community, highlighting the difference between dying “with” measles vs. “from” measles, and the need for full medical record review.
    • 00:17:34 – Treatment on the Ground: Dr. Paul references Dr. Ben Edwards’ work in Texas treating over 70 measles patients with vitamin A (cod liver oil) and supportive care.
    • 00:18:46 – Clinical Outcomes: Dr. Palevsky reports that Edwards observed rapid improvement with vitamin A, though notes the unusual prevalence of respiratory symptoms in these cases.


    Conclusion
    This episode underscores the importance of informed, rational perspectives on measles, immunity, and vaccines. Dr. Paul and Dr. Palevsky highlight that while measles can be serious, fear-driven narratives often distort reality. By reflecting on history, clinical experiences, and current events, they provide a balanced view — reminding parents and practitioners alike to seek truth, context, and thoughtful care.


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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul – Show 186: Pediatric Perspectives: Respiratory Illness Preparedness: Deep Dive Into Iodine with David Brownstein, M.D.

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    How iodine impacts cancer, immune health, and home respiratory care

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    In this important episode of With the Wind, Dr. Paul sits down with integrative physician David Brownstein, M.D. to explore the critical role of iodine in human health. Together, they examine how iodine deficiency contributes to today’s rising rates of chronic illness and cancer, and how practical iodine supplementation can help families prepare for respiratory illness season.
    Dr. David Brownstein has spent decades treating patients with integrative approaches that focus on root causes of disease rather than symptom suppression. In this conversation, he explains why iodine is essential for every cell in the body and particularly concentrated in glandular tissues such as the thyroid, ovaries, uterus, breast, prostate, and pancreas.
    The discussion also covers the history of iodized salt — once hailed as a public health miracle in preventing goiter — but why it is insufficient to meet the body’s needs. Dr. Brownstein describes how modern farming methods, soil depletion, and environmental toxins have exacerbated iodine deficiency in the population.
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul – Show 186: Pediatric Perspectives: Respiratory Illness Preparedness: Deep Dive Into Iodine with David Brownstein, M.D.

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    Respiratory Illness Preparedness: Deep Dive Into Iodine

    Iodine is an essential mineral for human health, but many people are deficient in it. Low levels can be detrimental — but fortunately, the fix is simple. David Brownstein, M.D. returns to “Pediatric Perspectives” to educate viewers on this important element. Watch the episode on CHD.TV!Iodine is an essential mineral for human health, but many people are deficient in it. Low levels can be detrimental — but fortunately, the fix is simple. David Brownstein, M.D. returns to “Pediatric Perspectives” to educate viewers on this important element. Watch the episode on CHD.TV!
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    With the Wind with Dr. Paul – Show 186: Pediatric Perspectives: Respiratory Illness Preparedness – Deep Dive Into Iodine with David Brownstein, M.D.
    Presenters: Dr. Paul, David Brownstein, M.D.
    Length: Approximately 28 minutes


    Summary:
    In this episode, Dr. Paul welcomes back David Brownstein, M.D., to take a deep dive into iodine’s overlooked but essential role in human health. Dr. Brownstein shares decades of clinical insights into how iodine deficiency contributes to rising rates of cancer and chronic illness, explains the shortcomings of iodized salt, and emphasizes iodine’s importance for children, pregnancy, and immune function. He also introduces his low-cost home respiratory preparedness protocol using nebulized iodine and peroxide.


    Key Points (with time stamps):
    • 00:00:40 – Dr. Paul’s Intro: Announcement about VAX FACTS availability and where to order.
    • 00:02:00 – Introduction of Dr. Brownstein: Overview of his integrative medical practice and focus on iodine’s critical role in health.
    • 00:03:08 – Essential Role of Iodine: Dr. Brownstein explains iodine as a required nutrient for every cell, with major concentrations in glandular tissues.
    • 00:04:18 – Deficiency and Disease: How iodine deficiency leads to cysts, precancerous changes, and cancers of the thyroid, breast, ovaries, prostate, and pancreas.
    • 00:06:30 – Cancer Prevention: Evidence that iodine sufficiency may prevent or reverse disease pathways, including cancer.
    • 00:07:49 – Why We’re Deficient: Soil depletion, industrial toxins, and halides (bromide, fluoride) contributing to widespread iodine deficiency.
    • 00:12:43 – Public Health History: The introduction of iodized salt in the 1920s, its impact on goiter prevention, and why iodized salt is still insufficient for overall health.
    • 00:19:20 – Case Study: Clinical experience showing breast tissue recovery and avoidance of surgery through iodine supplementation.
    • 00:21:35 – Use in Children: Safe dosing approaches for children and how iodine supports conditions like Hashimoto’s.
    • 00:23:05 – Respiratory Preparedness Kit: Brownstein outlines his clinical protocol of nebulized iodine and hydrogen peroxide as a low-cost home therapy for respiratory illnesses, including COVID-19 and RSV.
    • 00:26:12 – Closing: Dr. Brownstein directs listeners to his website for more resources; Dr. Paul reminds viewers of VAX FACTS and Kids First 4Ever coaching.


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    Conclusion:
    This conversation highlights practical strategies to combat iodine deficiency and prepare for respiratory illness season with simple, accessible tools. Listeners gain both historical context and actionable advice from Dr. Brownstein’s decades of holistic practice.


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    #WithTheWind #DrPaulThomas #DavidBrownstein #IodineHealth #RespiratoryPreparedness #PediatricCare #IntegrativeMedicine #ImmuneSupport #KidsFirst4Ever #DoctorsAndScience