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Examining early COVID treatment, vaccine policies, and spike protein concerns
In this episode of With the Wind: Science Revealed, Dr. Paul welcomes Dr. Peter McCullough, a highly published internist, cardiologist, and epidemiologist recognized for his early leadership during the COVID-19 pandemic. Their conversation focuses on early outpatient treatment, the lack of leadership from major medical institutions, concerns about the COVID-19 vaccine program, and new insights into spike protein persistence. This episode presents a clear and detailed look at what the data and clinical experience have shown.
When Institutions Withdrew, Early Treatment Emerged Elsewhere
Dr. Paul highlights Dr. McCullough’s landmark 2020 paper, Pathophysiological Basis and Rationale for Early Outpatient Treatment of SARS-CoV-2, which laid out the first organized outpatient treatment protocol in the early months of the pandemic. Dr. McCullough recounts his surprise that no major academic center—Harvard, Mayo Clinic, Cleveland Clinic, or others—ever produced such a protocol or positioned itself as a leader in early treatment. Hospitals instead waited for NIH and IDSA guidance, which focused solely on inpatient care rather than preventing hospitalization and death.
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Biopharmaceutical Debacle: How COVID Still Haunts Us
You won’t want to miss out on hearing from our special guest “truth-teller” this week, on “Pediatric Perspectives.” His name: Peter McCullough, M.D. In this episode, Dr. McCullough shares compelling information on how, years later, COVID is still haunting us. We are facing, in his words, “The biggest problem that humanity has ever tackled.” As Dr. McCullough points out, not only has its treatment been a failure in many ways, but also its “vaccine campaign…will go down as the largest biopharmaceutical debacle in human history.” And yet, helping those impacted has become the “most rewarding thing” from all the years he has been a physician. Watch the exclusive interview on CHD.TV!00:0000:00Dr. Paul Thomas (retired) - With the Wind with Dr. Paul Show 193: Pediatric Perspectives: Biopharmaceutical Debacle: How COVID Still Haunts Us with Peter McCullough, M.D.
Show Notes:
With the Wind with Dr. Paul – Show 193: Pediatric Perspectives: Biopharmaceutical Debacle: How COVID Still Haunts Us with Peter McCullough, M.D.
Presenters:
Dr. Paul Thomas, M.D., and Dr. Peter McCullough, M.D.
Length:
39 minutes, 35 seconds
Web Resources Mentioned:- McCullough Protocol & Clinical Resources: https://www.petermcculloughmd.com/
Key Points:
00:00:40 – 00:01:17 — VAX FACTS Announcement
Dr. Paul announces the upcoming December 10 release of VAX FACTS, including options for paperback, signed copies, and the e-book.
00:01:35 – 00:02:30 — Introduction of Dr. Peter McCullough
Dr. Paul introduces Dr. McCullough as an internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist, and COVID expert with more than 1,000 publications.
00:02:30 – 00:03:20 — Early Outpatient Treatment Leadership
Dr. Paul highlights McCullough’s 2020 article that established the first early outpatient treatment protocol for COVID-19.
00:03:20 – 00:04:13 — Lack of Academic Leadership
Dr. McCullough notes that major institutions such as Harvard, Mayo Clinic, and Cleveland Clinic never created early outpatient treatment protocols or asserted leadership during the pandemic.
00:04:13 – 00:05:00 — Hospitals Deferred to Government Guidance
He explains that hospitals waited for NIH and IDSA guidance, which focused only on inpatient treatment, resulting in no centers of excellence for COVID care.
00:05:00 – 00:06:20 — McCullough Protocol Observations and Outcomes
Dr. McCullough describes treating thousands of COVID patients and notes:- the pulmonary exam differs from other illnesses,
- infectious disease doctors often never examined patients directly, and
- published comparative data show the protocol is associated with about an 85% reduction in hospitalization and death.
He states the principles of the protocol have been attributed to saving tens of millions of lives.
He explains nearly everyone has had COVID by now, reducing the need for treatment in most cases, though rare severe cases still occur in high-risk individuals.
00:07:42 – 00:09:23 — Infection Likelihood and Vaccine Discussion
Dr. Paul references Cleveland Clinic data showing increased infection risk with more COVID vaccine doses.
Dr. McCullough states the 97% natural immunity rate is due to infection, not vaccination.
00:08:31 – 00:09:23 — The Vaccine Campaign as a “Biopharmaceutical Debacle”
Dr. McCullough reiterates his position—first published in August 2020—that the COVID-19 vaccine program would become “the largest biopharmaceutical debacle in human history.”
00:09:23 – 00:10:26 — Early Safety Reports and Suppression
He discusses Pfizer’s report documenting 1,223 deaths within the first 90 days of vaccine rollout and asserts that both Pfizer and the FDA attempted to cover up the data.
00:09:52 – 00:12:02 — Why Is the Vaccine on the Childhood Schedule?
They discuss ACIP’s decision to add COVID-19 vaccines to the childhood schedule despite:- extremely low risk of severe disease in children,
- the boosters lacking full approval for pediatric use, and
- emerging concerns over cardiac, neurologic, immunologic, and thrombotic risks.
Dr. Paul states that for children, the vaccine is “basically all harm and no benefit.”
Dr. McCullough states that hundreds of children have died following COVID vaccination and emphasizes that any vaccine-associated child death is unacceptable.
00:13:12 – 00:14:13 — No Country Has Removed the Vaccines
He notes that no country has pulled COVID-19 vaccines from the market, even with political shifts in the U.S.
00:14:13 – 00:15:29 — Engineered Spike Protein and Persistence
McCullough explains that:- U.S. intelligence agencies agree the virus was engineered,
- the spike protein docks with human ACE2 and TMPRSS2 receptors, and
- Dr. Bruce Patterson has shown S1 fragments can persist for at least a year and a half after natural infection.
Summary
In this revealing Pediatric Perspectives episode, Dr. Paul speaks with Dr. Peter McCullough about the lingering medical and policy consequences of COVID-19. Dr. McCullough discusses the absence of leadership in academic medicine, the development of his early outpatient treatment protocol, and its associated outcomes. He also addresses rising vaccine safety concerns, the high natural immunity rate, the placement of COVID-19 vaccines on the childhood schedule, and the ongoing risks associated with engineered spike protein.
Call to Action
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Reclaiming Authentic Motherhood Through Holistic Pediatric Care
In this powerful episode of Pediatric Perspectives, Dr. Paul sits down with holistic pediatrician and author Dr. Carissa Stanton, M.D., to explore the pressures facing modern parents and the transformative path she took from conventional pediatrics to a fully holistic approach. Drawing from her personal journey, her clinical experience, and her book Motherhood Makeover, Dr. Stanton offers grounded, practical guidance for families overwhelmed by today’s fast-paced, fear-driven culture.
A Journey Back to Holistic Wisdom
Dr. Stanton entered pediatrics determined to protect the most vulnerable—children. Although she excelled academically and practiced for 15 years in a traditional insurance-based pediatric environment, she found the system fundamentally incompatible with genuine preventative care. Her turning point came during an integrative medicine rotation in residency and later in 2020, when she opened her own direct primary care practice. Free from insurance restrictions, she now practices at the pace and depth families truly need.
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Motherhood Makeover
Carissa Stanton, M.D. is passionate about children’s health. Plus, as a mother herself, Dr. Stanton has first-hand experience with the challenges that come with parenting — mental, emotional and physical. She has, over the years, refined her practice of medicine in order to treat root causes, avoid pharmaceutical interventions and prevent illness naturally. To learn more about her holistic approach and hear her advice to those raising kids, watch this installment of “Pediatric Perspectives” on CHD.TV.00:0000:00Dr. Paul Thomas (retired) - With The Wind with Dr. Paul Show 192: Pediatric Perspectives Motherhood Makeover with Carissa Stanton, M.D.
Show Notes:
ith The Wind with Dr. Paul – Show 192: Pediatric Perspectives – Motherhood Makeover with Carissa Stanton, M.D.
Presenters: Dr. Paul, Carissa Stanton, M.D.
Length: 41 minutes 59 seconds
Summary
In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, Dr. Paul welcomes holistic pediatrician Dr. Carissa Stanton, author of Motherhood Makeover. Together they explore her journey from conventional pediatrics into holistic, root-cause care, her transition out of the insurance system, and her passion for empowering mothers. Dr. Stanton shares practical insights for stressed parents, explains why modern medicine fails families with chronic conditions, and emphasizes intuition, resilience, and creating a supportive home environment. The conversation also highlights societal pressures undermining parents, the importance of reducing fear, and reclaiming authentic motherhood.
Key Points (with timestamps)
00:00:40 – 00:01:17
Dr. Paul introduces VAX FACTS, announcing availability and ordering details.
00:01:35 – 00:01:54
Dr. Paul welcomes Dr. Carissa Stanton to Pediatric Perspectives.
00:01:54 – 00:02:22
Dr. Stanton discusses why she entered pediatrics and her passion for serving vulnerable children.
00:02:22 – 00:03:39
Dr. Paul reviews Dr. Stanton’s background: holistic pediatrics, wellness coaching, her online community, content creation, homesteading, and family life.
00:03:39 – 00:04:41
Dr. Stanton describes her journey—unlearning conventional training and discovering integrative medicine during residency.
00:04:41 – 00:05:11
She spent 15 years in private practice but was hindered by insurance constraints.
00:05:11 – 00:05:40
In March 2020, she opened her own direct primary care practice—describing it as “taking the red pill.”
00:05:40 – 00:07:12
Dr. Paul and Dr. Stanton discuss insurance-system limitations, quality metrics, and lack of true autonomy in mainstream pediatrics.
00:07:12 – 00:08:06
Dr. Stanton now prescribes very little medication and dropped her DEA license. She explains that chronic conditions require addressing root causes, not suppressive treatments.
00:08:06 – 00:10:17
She emphasizes the importance of minimal intervention from birth onward, letting nature take its course when appropriate, and supporting families with direct access and more time.
00:10:17 – 00:11:00
Dr. Paul notes the rarity of direct text access to a doctor; they discuss the value of community and communication.
00:11:00 – 00:12:39
Dr. Stanton describes her one-hour wellness visits, including parental stress assessment, environmental exposures, and objective informed consent.
00:12:39 – 00:13:16
She highlights that many holistic values mirror what doctors are taught early in training—patient-first care—but insurance breaks the fiduciary relationship.
00:13:16 – 00:15:53
They explore the societal forces working against modern parents: food industry, pharmaceutical industry, school systems, constant pressure, lack of support, and chronic stress.
00:15:53 – 00:17:12
Dr. Stanton stresses self-care and explains how addressing a parent’s stress can dramatically improve a child’s symptoms.
00:17:12 – 00:18:33
They discuss the strong connection between parental anxiety and child anxiety; Dr. Stanton explains how parents can access her virtual coaching and services.
00:18:33 – 00:20:12
Dr. Paul asks what practical steps stressed parents can take. Dr. Stanton emphasizes letting go of perfectionism and people-pleasing.
00:20:12 – 00:21:17
Parents must resist fear, regulate their nervous systems, and create a peaceful “cave”—a safe home environment free of constant stress.
00:21:17 – 00:22:56
They discuss media-driven fear, propaganda, and the benefits of reducing screen time for both parents and children.
00:22:56 – 00:25:18
They explore screen use in kids, stressing balance and avoiding extreme rigidity that creates more stress.
00:25:18 – 00:27:28
Dr. Stanton encourages “involving” children rather than “doing for” them, and allowing discomfort to build resilience.
00:27:28 – 00:29:14
She contrasts fear-based parenting with intuition-led parenting and shares the rhinoceros story from her daughter’s trip to Africa.
00:29:14 – 00:32:38
Deep dive into intuition: balancing cognitive thinking with subconscious values, tuning out external pressure, and trusting inner knowing.
00:32:38 – 00:36:25
Discussion on identifying personal values by noticing triggers, glimmers, and moments of peace; Dr. Stanton shares her own examples.
00:36:25 – 00:38:12
She explains how slowing down—especially during 2020—launched major life changes: homesteading, starting her practice, and simplifying life.
00:38:12 – 00:39:55
They discuss community support, collective empowerment, and the need for parents to join together rather than struggle alone.
00:39:55 – 00:40:54
Dr. Stanton shares how her waitlisted private practice led to expanding her online community to support more families.
00:40:54 – 00:41:18
Dr. Paul closes the interview and promotes VAX FACTS and his coaching services.
00:41:18 – 00:41:59
Dr. Paul concludes the show, encouraging viewers to visit KidsFirst4Ever.com.
Conclusion
Dr. Carissa Stanton offers a deeply authentic and practical look at modern motherhood, showing how holistic pediatric care must extend to empowering parents themselves. By slowing down, reclaiming intuition, building resilience, and reducing societal pressures, families can achieve greater peace and health. Her message is grounded in real-world clinical experience and a clear vision for supporting mothers and children through root-cause, personalized care.
Resources- VAX FACTS – https://vaxfactsbook.com
- Kids First 4Ever – https://www.kidsfirst4ever.com
- Carissa Stanton, M.D. – https://carissastantonmd.com
- Motherhood Makeover Book — https://www.carissastantonmd.com/book
- Doctors and Science – https://www.doctorsandscience.com
