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​Dr. Paul  0:00  
Dr. Paul Welcome to against the wind doctors in science under fire. This show focuses on the entity called PMAs private membership associations. I interviewed two individuals Mike column, who's a businessman of over 30 years who's really been pioneering this whole rollout of private membership associations. interesting discussion on what they are, how they work, why they're important. And he also introduces the healing hub and the renegade nation. And then I speak with nurse Rachel, Nurse Rachel has started and implemented a PMA here in the northwest of the United States. She has brought healthcare using this model saving lives in the hundreds, very fascinating and important interview about medical freedom and the importance of this entity. Moving forward. Bernadette rounds out our show with what's in the news, this time talking about the White House press release of an upcoming COVID summit. Yes, folks, there's going to be a another summit with a certain number of nations trying to bring forth the exact same agenda, more vaccines, getting a needle into every arm in the world. And she highlights some of the powerful interest behind that the act accelerator, you're going to want to watch this enjoy the show.

Dr. Paul, coming to you from the heart. It's springtime, this is my favorite time of the year, when I lay in bed and my eyes open and I hear those birds chirping. It just fills me with that joy and new life. And the trees are just bursting into flowers. The bulbs are coming up, the weather is warming up. It's a wonderful time. But there's struggle in our world as well. And I want to know is my heart coming up from a place of anxiety in this world gone mad. When I do have my struggles, I'm reminded of the Serenity Prayer. It goes like this. grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference. Boy, that wisdom part that can be a tough one. We need transformation in our world. Never again, this is the time we need to say never again, will we listen to those talking heads on the news that are reading prompters with disinformation, even to our public health officials who are spreading misinformation and lies. When we have great information that our hands, we need to move forward in peace, standing for justice and goodness, doing this with compassion. We have to just embrace our joy. And most importantly, let love and kindness be our guide.

Welcome Mike column, it is such an honor and privilege to have you on against the wind. You come from a background of corporate business for over 30 years. I know you've helped people achieve higher standards and energy worked on business goals. We have something in common. We both have nine children.

Mike Colomb  3:24  
So nice. That's awesome.

Dr. Paul  3:27  
You and your wife Vanessa obviously have big hearts. It takes a big heart to have a huge family like that. Yep. Where what I'm excited to talk to you about I mean, we'll talk about several things. But to start off with is I heard you speak about PMAs private membership associations. And it was the first time I'd really heard about it in a way that I could understand it. So I thought maybe we could kick that off with I mean, maybe I think the way you described for somebody who's never really understood what it is like your wife had started a private membership grocery store. Hear that story is just an introduction and then kick it off from there on.

Mike Colomb  4:07  
That sounds good. Yeah, you bet. So my wife has been bugging me for years to move out of California. She saw the mess coming right and she started getting worse. I'm just you know, fat, dumb and happy. I'm out there working my butt off. I'm getting things done. And she's telling me about these vaccination things that are coming up and with our children. My all my kids are out of the home except for my youngest is eight. So all the rest of them are on their own doing stuff with their families. And so with our eight year olds, you know, being impacted with this, these vaccination mandates, so I finally said, okay, and we decided to move and we started looking around the country. We did it for two years went on month long trips, looking, we're putting our property for sale. We're about month and a half, two months into it. And Vanessa comes to me and says, Hey, honey, we need to build a grocery store. And I'm saying yeah, that sounds good. We could do that. You know any grocery stores in South Dakota? And she goes no, I mean here, and it's like, you don't scratch my head say no. You know, it took you two or three years for you to get me in the mood to move. And we're finally doing that. And she, she won that battle. So now we stayed in a building a grocery store. And doing way we were going to do any kind of business here at all anymore. We had three other businesses that were operating here in California, is if we did it some other way than normal. And she told me and she'd already been, she'd known about this for like six months, that PMA is a it's a business entity, just like a corporation or an LLC. It just happens to reside in the private instead of the public. And the things when you think about, you know, well, what's the difference between private and public? Well, what can you do in your home that you can't do outside of regular business every day? Right? And those are different things. And then you always have to go back and forth public, private, public, private, and think about, you know, aside, what can I do this? Well, we as people, as free, people need to stop asking permission to do things that we're allowed to do by our Constitution. And our state, federal local governments have this perceived authority that they think they can just tell us what to do whenever they want to, because they've told other people and it's work. So then as soon as it works, then they think, Okay, well, this is how it's going to be from here forward, you know, and that's not correct. It's not lawful to do those things. So the PMA kind of puts a reset on that it kind of puts them in a place where, you know, they're scratching their heads, because we are using the constitution to our favor, to allow us to operate in business and do private business contracts, Constitution, Article One, Section 10 states that we have the ability to do and perform unlimited private business transactions. And that's exactly what we did here in the store. So we opened our store doors, and Vanessa, back as soon as COVID hit, and people were being shut down, she started a group called free Nevada County, and her and her friends, they their goal was to help keep businesses in place and up and running. And she and her team, they thrashed and harassed a bunch of the the county employees during that period of time, we they were actually successful in having to have our county health department supervisors actually not only quit their jobs, but move. And so this is the kind of thing we when they come in, and therefore communist on us. And we need to be able to to, you know, protest that. And these people couldn't handle the protest. So they moved in, which is great. That's what we need to do and what has to happen. So we open the grocery store. And immediately, two days afterwards, the county knew who she was. So they were at our door, I was at a town working, they came in and started harassing her a little bit, wanting to give her a cease and desist order, and wanting to close down the store wanting to come in and take pictures and do an audit on the on all the stuff that was in there. She had two people from code enforcement with her. And she stopped her door and said, No, you don't get to come in here. And she explained to her that we're a private membership association, and that we only work in the private and everybody in our store was a private member. And there was no public people in there in the store buying products from us at all ever. And that they have no authority in the private. And they really don't understand it a bunch. And the lady continued to want to talk to an ESA and Vanessa said, I don't have time to talk to you, you need to leave. And then so she said, Well, you need to sign this. And she gave us these necessity messages. I'm not taking that. And I'm not saying that. So at the end of the day, she ultimately told them, you know, you have two choices, you can walk off the property, or I'm gonna call a sheriff or deputy arresting, and they left and they've never been back and that was last March. So that's when you have a PMA or not. Our public property rights are just that. I don't care if the mayor comes over my property of our town, I don't care if the governor comes over to our property, if they're here, had a one one my property, they're trespassing and the sheriff will come and arrest him. And that's the way things work. And that's about those are our personal property rights that we have. And it doesn't matter whether you own your property or not. A lot of people ask me all the time, well, what I leased my property, I leased my building from my business. And that doesn't matter because you have beneficial use. And in that beneficial use point. That's when you're allowed to have those freedoms of being able to not let anybody on your property.

Dr. Paul  8:56  
So so the PMA model, my understanding is this can be applied to virtually any business.

Rachel Byers  9:02  
Yep, pretty much there's, there's a couple that are having a hard time. So if you're a real estate agent, or an insurance agent, you have to have a contract with the state in order to do those things. And there's a way we can get around part of it through, you know, through an LLC and through a private contract with an LLC. Same thing Well, I have some doctors that are in in VMAs that still need a their LLC and their licensing and LLC because they're their insurance that take mandate that they have an LLC, so we're using that LLC as a subcontractor position. And but yeah, it's just like a regular business just like an LLC or corporation resides in a private.

Dr. Paul  9:41  
So why do you think? I mean, clearly, you have a deep understanding of PMAs Why do you think they're so important right now at this time in our world?

Rachel Byers  9:51  
Yeah, you bet. And that's it's kind of funny because I was writing a text to somebody this morning about how important a PMA is for us today. Um, There's a lot of things we've been pushed into our new parallel society, right? Under duress, they stepped us away from our medical freedoms, and our education and our food sovereignty. They're taking all these things away from us, and putting us in position that you know, either roll over and become one of the many and become, you know, they want 100% people vaccinated, see, and I am not going to be vaccinated, my family's not gonna be vaccinated, and no one's gonna force us to be there. Right. And that's, we made that clear stand ahead of time. And whether you are or not, that's a personal decision, whether you wear a mask or not, that's a personal decision. But it's not something that they should impose on us. And so,

Dr. Paul  10:38  
go ahead, like in your store analogy, I'm thinking, you know, I read about food insecurity as something that may be coming. Perhaps your PMA, in the version of your store provides a level of security for people who think outside the box and don't want to participate in in the controlled environment.

Rachel Byers  10:59  
That's exactly the point. And so what happens is by them pushing us away and taking away our rights, we don't really get our rights taken away, we just let them have them. Right. As a as a nation, we just roll over we're, you know, we're a group of conservatives that have been out working hard and been politically lazy for a long time, and not watching the things that have been transpiring. And they take away and just put a little bit of time until where they are at that point. And for them to come in and shut down our business. It's, for them to say, you have to wear masks in your business, you have to mandate it, for them to come in and say in San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York and a bunch of other cities around the country, that I'm sorry, you can't come and use those stores. And you as a store owner can't let anybody unless they're vaccinated and show your car. That's that can't happen. And inside of a PMA, it can't, it doesn't happen. I have, I have two PMA restaurants in downtown San Francisco, that operate in the epitome of communism, in their store, where everybody in town is not only vaccinated, but their masks and they don't require masks for vaccination in the city in this county, the state can't force them to do that, because they're in a private business transaction. Just like they were in your home. It doesn't change that. It's that powerful. And when you have a PMA I don't care where you put it. That business, that's a PMA inside everybody, every single member is just like family and friends. And it's that close knit tight organization have a private membership association. I don't care how many people you have in it. They have no authority, no jurisdiction to come in and do anything with it.

Dr. Paul  12:32  
So I imagine you envision a network of PMAs across the country? How does that network interact? So if I'm coming to your town, how do I know that you're there, you're a resource?

Rachel Byers  12:46  
Well, that's a great point. And that was one of the things that that kind of hit us off, I, I started doing the PMAs. I went to other companies and I, contractor and I've been kind of tired of it for many years. And then I decided, you know that and basically Ford came to me and said, hey, you know, you should start helping other people with VMAs and keeping other businesses up and running. And and so we switched, and I retired from contracting, and I started writing VMAs. And I was just doing, you know, some here and there to start with. And then the medical freedom became more and more apparent. And in that that piece for the basically my wife had to go to the hospital. And in probably a week after, and I was able to go in as a visitor without being vaccinated. And a week later, we had a friend or somebody that we know, you know, that died in the same hospital. And his wife had to say goodbye to him on a zoom call, see, and then that kind of debt really came to me and hit home. And what that did was put rage in me about what they're doing. And so I went to that point, and decided I was going to dive into the medical freedom. And within probably two months, I talked to 1000s of medical people across the country from, from brain surgeons to you know, all the way down the run from every single functional medicine person areas. And we started our business booming in the medical field. And so about 70% of my business is holistic, functional medicine. And then the rest is, you know, divided between education and the next then food sovereignty. And then you know, all the rest of it from contractors to retail, everything you could possibly imagine. Throughout the whole board. They appeal me. Go ahead.

Dr. Paul  14:29  
So are you creating a network of is that what the healing hub is? Maybe you can talk about that a

Rachel Byers  14:34  
little bit, the healing of us that network of freedom, medical businesses across the country, and helping them get back to work and we've got a bunch of nurses across the country and a couple of doctors that were fired for not being vaccinated, that have healing hubs up and running and others. There's one in Idaho right now. They're actually working on developing a whole new center. And we have multiple areas that are around the country that are started up where they're out there and they're protecting people. And they're helping. And the thing is, is that we need to be able to, we need to be able to travel freely across the country, and understand and know where every single place is at and where we can go and get healed if something happens. And we need to take and we did it, we started that idea selfishly, because we travel every two weeks, my wife and I, and my youngest son, we travel across the country, and we speak about PMAs in the, in the healing hub, and then the renegade nation, and we, you know, we go to every single little town we can to, to work with the groups that are there and building and making them stronger and, and help them to come together. And we go to a restaurant, you know, in the morning for breakfast, and they say, you know, you got to wear a mask for three feet and sit down. And I just, I can't do that. And we don't wear masks. And we we drive everywhere we go. And we just came back from a month long trip that took us all the way to Iowa and back, so on all the way through all that bunch of states all the way through, and we don't wear masks, and we won't. And so when that happens, we have to go find other places to eat. And that's pretty irritating. And then the same thing applies to if my son got hurt, and had to go to hospital and that hospital would make us be vaccinated, I need to be able to find places we as free Americans need to be able to do that.

Dr. Paul  16:10  
Right? That's I imagine on that front, we're at the very early stages, because I know we're going to need a parallel system of clinics, and probably regional hospitals that are run by people who are free. And maybe this PMA model could work for that as well. Right?

Rachel Byers  16:27  
We are actually actively looking at buying a hospital and we're working on building clinics across the country. Um, I know that there's other groups that are building clinics as well. And we're supporting them with that. And many of their clinical leaders are becoming PMAs men in the clinics, that would be nice, the doctors that are in there, the nurses there and they're becoming PMS. We, we need the PMA to allow us to continue to not only, you know operate in society, but actually not just survive, but thrive. And in that we the whole idea of what I think we're doing with the renegade nation. That's I think my biggest goal and this is, is the renegade nation and how we combine not only PMA businesses, but also other freedom businesses. It doesn't matter if you're free, because we have states that are and we have good counties out there. Believe it or not, there's still some good counties where the businesses are still operating freely every single day and never had any issues at all. And we need those businesses inside the renegade nation. Because what we've learned is we want to take and we want to capture all the freedom businesses across the country, with all of the Freedom consumers across the country, and the businesses are all consumers as well, right? But put us all together in one big bunch our new parallel society or new try and get everybody to where they can say, Okay, now let's take and let's spend our money with our neighbor down the street who's a freedom business. But I think my biggest part of what I want to see today is I'd like to see a new, a new political party, we have 100 million plus of us that are in the same spot as you and I. And we had all 100 million people plus in one big huge new tribe community. Together, we can start our new political party, and we could outvote the Democrats and Republicans across the board throughout the entire country. And we started starts at a little level on micro level in every single little town and city and in the grows into the big cities, and then it grows into the states and then it comes back to the federal government. And I totally believe this can happen within 10 years. I think we can really take back our country 10 years.

Dr. Paul  18:26  
That is a huge and ambitious goal. So I'm a business owner you know, I'm a pediatrician, integrative medicine doc, I'm I have a business, it's traditional model. I am sure there are so many other people like me, whether you own a gym or a store or you're providing services or you're in the medical field. How do we get started? How do we become a part of the healing hub? How do we get involved with renegade nation? How do we start our PMA

Rachel Byers  18:55  
the easiest way to start and doing things would be just to email me and you can email me at info at the peak, the PMA team got clubs, so info hat, the PMA team, dot club. Okay, and that's, that's a very simple way to get home you can also go on to, and I suggest everybody go on to the renegade nation.org So the renegade nation.org. And on there, you can also reach out to me from that point. And either way is just fine in the if you get onto the renegade nation, there's going to be some documents on there, you can read about PMAs up front, and what the what the renegade nation really is. And that's kind of it's kind of cool. The way it's transitioned from just a database in intense because that's what it is. It's a database of all the freedom companies across the country with all the freedom consumers in there being able to support their local people as they go throughout it and whether they're traveling or at home, to be able to do that, but it's a we're building a job board model right now. Where us An individual can go on there and post a resume and have employers look for it, look at it. It's a place for the employers, the businesses to be able to go there and post the job openings. And what you're going to get is you're going to get a freedom person that you know, that's going to come into your business and not harass you about, hey, you know, when are you guys gonna get vaccinated? And I've got a doctor in Seattle, who went he and his wife both were vaccinated because his patients were bugging him and pressured him into doing another state. But his patients, yeah. And he called me and asked me what he should do. And I said, Well, you should move, you know, or you should fire all your patients and go find new ones. That's what you should do.

Dr. Paul  20:39  
Now. I'm on the west coast in Oregon. And you know, the climate here in Oregon, Washington and California has is very different. Something strange has happened in the last couple years. And so yeah, there's these weird pressures, people are buckling to peer pressure, if you will, and getting vaccinated and you know, wearing masks and yeah, it's been an insane time, hasn't it?

Rachel Byers  21:06  
It hasn't even it's sad. Because they, you know, honestly, they I mean, the government Right? And, and shame on Trump. You know, I don't like Trump, I voted for him, I would vote for him again, but Shame on him for being such a cheerleader for the vaccination. Yeah, it's pretty sad. And as soon as it came out, we had, you know, millions and millions of people standing in line dying to get the vaccination and some of them died. We know that we know a bunch of have died. I know personal friends who have died from the vaccination and went and many of them got a heart attacks and strokes. And it's just it's sad that it's been covered up the way it is. And their goal is 100% of us. Right? And they're gonna do anything they possibly can. And right now, we're on a little reprieve, right? Because we're in midterms, right? And everybody, it's like the abuse girlfriend. Right? Everybody's got their guard down, you know, hey, he's not gonna beat me anymore. He's been really nice to me. And then we all get our guard down, take that deep sigh of relief, and then they're coming back at us. And you know, dang. Well, they are and what they're gonna do to us next is we don't know yet. But it's not going to be nice. Right? There goes 100%.

Dr. Paul  22:12  
Yep. So to kind of wrap it up, I this information is so important. What what are your top most important messages you want the world to know as we enter this law where it feels like oh, yeah, now we can even get on airlines without masks. As you said, it's just the law. There's there's clearly with what's going on in Shanghai and that massive lockdown of one of the largest cities in the world. Complete lockdown at a time where COVID is nothing right now. Something's going on. What what's your advice for people?

Rachel Byers  22:51  
Well, my advice for everybody and what I do is live your life. Right? Stop asking for permission to do the things that you inherently have God given rights to do. Our Constitution doesn't allow us the rights to do things. It's there to protect the rights that we have from God, to be able to do the things when you do stop asking permission, go live your life, learn how to say no. Learn how to question authority, when they come at you with some stupid thing that you know, can't be right. Question to find out why. Talk to your friends, talk to your family. And I know that's a tough one for people that do you know, because I know many, many people who don't and can't talk to their family more because they are not vaccinated, just not vaccinated. No argument, nothing happened. They didn't get vaccinated. They don't talk to him anymore. And then the same goes the other way to, you know, people that aren't vaccinated that won't don't talk to their friends or family that are vaccinated. And that's that's a shame. You know, that's the only thing in the renegade nation that we're going to mandate is that there's no mandates young business and you ask them to be vaccinated or messed up, we're kicking out. That's all there is to it. Yeah, yeah. It needs to be free. We the free people, right, we are free people. Let's act like it. Let's all put on our big boy panties and act like it and do it. And it's going to be rough. You know, it's it's not going to be pretty, the things that are coming at us the next five years aren't going to be pretty. And assume that this is just the beginning of a store. And we need to realize that and I've always been my wife, Vanessa, God bless her heart, man. She's the biggest conspiracy theorist I know. And today, look at that, the things that she told me a long time ago and just fit a year ago. And I say, you know, go talk to her friends about that, because you guys are a little wacko club. And all those things came true. And I'm sure she's got some doozies out there that aren't you know, that, you know, who knows? They might still at some point, we'll find out.

Dr. Paul  24:43  
Yeah, well, they've been rolling this out in plain view, and people who just want to keep their heads in the sand and not look at what's going on will suffer the consequences. I would always get so frustrated because you know, my my A world has been the vaccine world and, and wanting informed consent and people having that freedom to say no, they don't want to do any or they just want to do a few or whatever they want. We are free people. And just hitting a wall on that whole topic of freedom with people unwilling to even consider that that's a reasonable choice. It's like, wow,

Rachel Byers  25:22  
it's it's amazing how, how they, over a long period of time have conditioned one little teeny piece at a time. Right? That's all it really is conditioning. Yeah. And I just refuse to be conditioned. That's not gonna happen or refuse that. It's what we have to have to learn how to say no.

Dr. Paul  25:42  
Yeah. Well, I love I love your closing thought live your life. We are free people learn how to say no, these are such simple but very important messages. Mike, thank you so much for coming on the show. Keep up your good work. You must be I don't know how you're I know you're already busy. So I don't know how you're gonna keep up once we all start hitting you up for some support here.

Rachel Byers  26:04  
I want to see a million PMAs cross country within a couple of years. The numbers, there's probably 50,000 today. Want to see millions?

Unknown Speaker  26:11  
Let's do. Yeah,

Rachel Byers  26:13  
no doubt about it. Thank you so much for the pleasure of being with you here today. Appreciate it so much. And next time I'm up in Oregon, What city do you live in,

Dr. Paul  26:21  
I'm in the Portland area in the Portland area. Next

Rachel Byers  26:23  
time I'm up there, I'm gonna I'm gonna hit you up. And we'll get together for a cup of coffee or so

Dr. Paul  26:27  
let's do it. Thank you. Have a good day.

welcome Rachel buyers to against the wind doctrines and signs under fire. I have wanted to interview for a long time since I heard about the amazing things you're doing. Before we get into that, though, I'm interested in a little bit of your personal story in terms of you know, what were the significant events in your life that led to this passion for medical freedom.

Rachel Byers  26:56  
First of all, it's an honor to be here. So thank you for having me. Very excited to be on your show. It starts back to I would say I've always had red, white and blue. I mean, really strong, passionate, you know, patriotic blood. My grandpa was on the Indianapolis and World War Two. And he went down on that ship. And he survived seven days of shark infested waters. So to say my background is very patriotic is an understatement. They actually made a movie about him. And you know, he's kind of a legend in my eyes. So that's just kind of just a little snippet of a background there. But just He's amazing. He's like, always been my hero. So with that being said, I was young and I wanted to go into nursing, I want to do holistic nursing, because I wanted to truly care about people. And I really didn't understand back then that the darkness of the field that I was going into, like I knew that I wanted to do holistic, but when I got my nursing degree, you know, there's other steps you need to take. So I kind of fell into unfortunately about part of it. And when my daughter was injured by vaccines, and then she got cancer from vaccines, it was

Dr. Paul  28:10  
wow, that sounds like a lot in that sentence right there. I didn't want to share just a little more about what happened with your daughter.

Rachel Byers  28:17  
Absolutely. So she had some reactions and back then I didn't have access to internet and of course the doctors were you know how it is they never correlate it, they bully you they deny everything. And I knew in my heart something wasn't right. But because of me going into nursing school and you know, the medical cartel basically, being in charge of everything, you know, just it's, it's, you know, you're going into it with them basically teaching and it's all there. It's it has nothing to do with nutrition and actually healing people. And so that's kind of what I was up against. But with that being said, I knew that something was wrong. And she to make a long story short, she had a lot of symptoms and

Dr. Paul  29:03  
how old was she when that when that sort of started happening?

Rachel Byers  29:07  
So she was six, she was six years old and she had some stuff that had happened that was terrifying. She had like she was she would she was basically like mom something isn't right. And she would show me what like she just blew her nose and it looked like a huge tumor. And so it was different things like that and back then I hadn't you know gone fully into the holistic yet and so unfortunately, I took her to the wrong people and they're like, Okay, she has cancer you need to go to Doran Becker's and it was just a nightmare ever since then because obviously the chemo and radiation, but all played a part in killing her and ultimately it was the ventilator that killed her. She was on a ventilator in her last days. But I found out the ugly truth and the disgusting darkness and all of that after I wanted to be strong enough to know how does a child get cancer. And so I left no stone unturned. And that's kind of what led me down that path of finding that vaccines do cause childhood cancer, Mary Toko was like, you know, she's a warrior. And so back then I, you know, studying and I got a hold of her, I got a hold of Dr. Tenpenny. And they're all my heroes along with you, of course, but they all showed me that they all, you know, showed me all the evidence, all the research everything so

Dr. Paul  30:25  
and and I should just say for our viewers that link between what you just said vaccines and cancer is not well understood by mainstream medicine. In fact, it's all hide complaint currently, always. You know, there are plenty of studies showing a link, there's plenty of evidence that there's a link. The control group, data is so powerful 00 cancer and the unvaccinated you can go to the Control group.org It's an open source data. So yeah, I'm sorry to interrupt your story. But I'm so sorry for your loss. How long ago was that? That was in 2007. Okay. All right. And so then you're in nursing school, you

Rachel Byers  31:10  
know, I was actually a nurse at that time. So I was actually able to be a fierce advocate for her at that time. And at the same time, they were bullying me to do stuff that I felt in my heart was going to hurt her, I was trying to go natural and find natural alternatives to help save her. So ultimately, she was murdered by pharma, and the killer with chemo radiation events. It was after that, like I told you that I mean, my whole world was dark. I didn't even want to be here. I tried to commit suicide many times, I just didn't, I couldn't handle the pain of knowing what happened to my little girl what they did to her, they murdered her.

Dr. Paul  31:47  
And that's that whole issue of waking up to the risks of decisions that we've made before we really knew what was involved, right. I mean, I've vaccinated my kids, I know they're not their full potential as a result, you paid an ultimate price you lost your baby? And how to how to wrap your head around that. I think most people can't go there. So they just they don't, right.

Rachel Byers  32:15  
Yeah, exactly. Sorry, I just realized my flag just felt so

Dr. Paul  32:19  
good. It's hanging just like it's supposed to. Okay, perfect.

Rachel Byers  32:23  
So with that being said, after the trauma of that, I'm like, There's no way I want to be a part of any of this, you know, I just left the whole medical field for like, 10 years, and she was always, you know, my hero warrior, so strong. And I knew that she wanted me to continue to heal and help people the way that God intended for it to be. And so that's when I made that choice, where I felt like I was strong enough to go back in there, but I was gonna go behind enemy's enemy lines and take them down from the inside, basically. And that's basically what I've been doing. So I've been exposing them, I have been, you know, just making sure everybody's empowered with the truth. And it's been amazing. And I also were able to save a lot of babies and a lot of children after, so her suffering and death wasn't in vain. So this, I can tell you, for sure, though,

Dr. Paul  33:14  
you started an organization called Pro medical freedom, I believe. Yes. Tell us more about that. What what got you to that point? And what have you been doing?

Rachel Byers  33:24  
So as as you know, for the last two years, I've been on the frontlines I've been to all the rallies, the protests, we've been doing everything with people's rights. I mean, just really involved in every group that's out there to take our freedom back. And, well, I never gave mine up, but to, you know, fight for our country to fight for our children's future. And with that being said, then the medical tyranny comes and I'm just like, Okay, now, no, because at that time, I was working a job or when kami Kate announced the whole lockdown and everything I knew right then in there that this was a scam. demic. And so I started seeing that and the job that I had, where they were like, No, you need to chart that. That was COVID. And these are people that I knew, I knew it wasn't that I knew these patients, I taking care of them forever. And that's when I admit I'm like, No, I basically can go to hell, I'm not gonna lie on charts so that you can get a reimbursement for this amount of money. So I was fired from that job. And then the next job it was like, Oh, you need to take the bio weapon. I said, No, you can go to hell. I'm not taking a bio weapon.

Dr. Paul  34:28  
Let me slow you down. Your I've got listeners who don't know what bioweapons is. And they probably they probably don't know what you mean, when you COVID vaccine, you in a hospital and you were being actually asked to chart that it was a COVID death.

Rachel Byers  34:44  
So it was travel nursing. So I went between different areas of hospitals to assisted living to just anywhere that they needed me. And that's what I did.

Dr. Paul  34:54  
And and explain to our viewers why that there was this pressure to do that. Uh,

Rachel Byers  35:01  
well, that's because I believe that all of them get a kickback in some way. And for me, I mean, I believe after studying this for 1314 years is a very evil sinister, is why they want us to.

Dr. Paul  35:16  
Yeah, I can definitely validate your statement about the financial incentives, especially around COVID. It went to a whole new level, exactly. were hospitalized for COVID. If you're positive COVID, it's an automatic huge increase in the reimbursement rate. And then hospitals, in the hospitals. Yeah, and if they can ventilate even more money, and if the patient dies, even more money. So the whole thing is just, you know, financial incentives do affect choice, the way people act, unfortunately, we're vulnerable human beings to, to those sorts of incentives and pressures. Well, not

Rachel Byers  35:53  
me. And so I was watching this happen. And I was like, Oh, hell no. And I'm watching all of these good, amazing Liberty minded health care workers that are just like standing up like me, and I went, Oh, no, we need to take our power back. We need to basically create our own infrastructure of freedom in our own economy and everything. But I'm like, it needs to start with medical freedom. So I just went with my passion, my love for people. And I'm like, No, we're going to heal people. And so that's when I created the organization. And because I was known in the community, and well respected, it was kind of like just a flooding of people that came to me and joined a group and telegram. And the rest is history. It was the most incredible thing I've ever seen, because we have, you know, doctors, ICU nurses, respiratory therapists. I mean, everybody's in this group, chiropractors, midwives, it's truly amazing. And so what we were able to do, was we started with nothing, I didn't have anything, I didn't have any resources. I didn't have any money. I used all my own money. And you know, to start it out, but I basically I'm like, Hey, guys, we need concentrators lead ivermectin, we need H CQ. And let's go safe people because I was watching these demons in the hospital murder people for their reimbursement, because I knew they were getting reimbursement for diagnosis from treatment to the remdesivir to, you know, them actually dying on the vent, and it was the most sickest thing I've ever seen. And so here we're going into homes and we're bringing life saving oxygen. And we're getting them on the ivermectin, which was crucial. Also, I have to say the right dosage, because a lot of people were not on the right dosage, and that they weren't getting better. So being having them on the right dosage was critical. So having them on that, and then, you know, our doctors would do Okay, make sure we've got all the supplements, which we follow closely to like Doctor artists and doctors, Linko. And just a pedestrianized into dexamethasone, if they needed that and antibiotics 100% recovery rate 100% with every single person that followed our protocol over 150 lives saved. And that to me, I have goosebumps right now, every time I say that, it blows my mind because the hospitals are killing people at a 98% kill rate. And they have unlimited funds and resources to heal people. I had nothing. I had nothing people were donating in the beginning ghetto concentrators. I call them ghetto because they would be up all night, you know, they weren't working, right. But they did work, they were able to provide the oxygen that they needed. And these were people that went home to die. Yeah, went home to die. And we were able to save them at the last minute. And so now we have hospital grade concentrators because we've been very blessed with donations. And that's been incredible having the hospital grade 10 liter bring them into the homes. And so that's been pretty awesome.

Dr. Paul  38:39  
That's fantastic. So you're here in the Northwest, right? Right? How would people get a hold of you or your organization if they want to support you or if they need help?

Rachel Byers  38:49  
So our website, which I'm very proud of, it's very patriotic, it's awesome. It's www dot pro medical freedom.org.

Dr. Paul  38:58  
Simple as that. And you've gathered a team of experts, doctors, as you said, a whole a whole team of allied health professionals so that you can support people who need your help.

Rachel Byers  39:09  
Exactly. And we have a very exciting goal of having our first freedom clinic. So we're working on that right now. In fact, just maybe an hour before I came on here, I got a very exciting phone call. And I'm going to meet him on Thursday because we're trying to find a clinic that centrally located off of the freeway, which kind of between Portland and Eugene. So yeah, he just called and he's like I really need to see you because this place is perfect for what you want to do. So that will just be phenomenal.

Dr. Paul  39:36  
Incredible, incredible. And I believe you used a different model. Are you able to talk about that at all?

Rachel Byers  39:44  
So as far as the PMA and the structure, yeah, so we're under a PMA, which is a private membership association. And we are also 501 C three eight. I'm saying that right. So ministry organization, and we're completely protected under our PMA. from any state jurisdiction, so we're able to operate under that. And that's what our clinic will operate under, which will also protect us because I plan on doing like a loyal title, so that the state can't touch that either. So that's gonna be that is

Dr. Paul  40:15  
fascinating. We were going to pair your interview with another interview of how to set up a PMA. So that's amazing. Yeah, no, this is this is a new way forward for folks who want to do the right thing Absolutely. Are handcuffed by all the jurisdictions and the big words and, and all of those sorts of things

Rachel Byers  40:36  
for tyranny. Yes, yeah, exactly. Wow. Well,

Dr. Paul  40:39  
well, good for you. This is this is what's necessary, it would use, I think we touched on already, just because of your experience in the mainstream medical, but mainstream medical system has failed it COVID has really made that amply clear. And it's so broken, I don't think we can fix it. So we have to make a parallel system. And that's exactly what you're doing.

Rachel Byers  41:01  
That's our focus. Exactly. Our bodies are self healing. And there was no reason for anybody to die. I mean, we were able to save a 92 year old man and 65% Oxygen, if you he actually was in the hospital, and our doctors were able to rescue him. So if there is a 92 year old with COVID, you know, and we're able to save him, nobody should have died, then early and we always you know, we're our big thing is empowering people and educating them that early treatment is the cure. It was always the cure. So as soon as you start having symptoms, you start your ivermectin ECq. Those people were totally fine. It was the people that didn't know that we existed and we got to them too late, they didn't have access, because there's no doctors would give it to them, none their own PCPs. Nobody would give them what they needed. And it's just heartbreaking. I mean, I just want to share this story. Because when I was young dad, 39 years old, four young babies went home to die. We found out about him last minute, his wife called me and said, I heard about you from meeting and people's rights. And this is this is our situation. He's laying on the couch now. And he's saying goodbye to his kids. And so that was in the beginning, when we first started our organization. We went to him he got on the concentrator, he was only on 12 milligrams of ivermectin, you need to be on he needed to be on 70. So we got him on the right dosage got him. And a week later, he was walking around his kids were crying. I mean, we're going to be doing all video testimonies of all of these, and it's going to be pretty amazing. But I just had to share that because I really want to inspire everybody, I want to inspire them. I had nothing. I mean, I'm basically a single mom, that, you know, I didn't I wasn't working because I couldn't. And I started this organization and look how many lives are saved. And now look at what's going to happen. I mean, the future is incredible. Everybody would just take that and just go, No, we're going to take our power back. You don't get to tell us how to live what to do. You don't get to have any choice over our bodies, especially medically, no. And let's do this.

Dr. Paul  43:00  
Absolutely. I had an ad a good friend of mine in the freedom movement called me up and her best friend was on his way to the hospital, gasping for air SATs were in the high 70s. And someone like you intervened talked him to the side of the road. Matt him got him on the ivermectin on the oxygen. And he's fine. He turned around in 24 hours.

Rachel Byers  43:25  
There you go.

Dr. Paul  43:27  
There you go. So edible stories of of, you know, life saving simple, really,

Rachel Byers  43:32  
very simple. The hospitals go and murder people. And so that's another part of our story to which I was gonna, you know, that can be a separate interview with our legal and coordinator who's done a phenomenal job at helping families in the hospital that have cried out to us because they're like, they're actively killing our loved ones. And so we've been able to help a lot of them too. But just to be able to explain to people that once you're in there, I mean, it's your it's like a prison. And they, you know, they isolate you from your loved ones, and they start on the remdesivir. They're like, Oh, look, they're dying. And that's because you're killing them with remdesivir. And then they justify the event. And it's all for money, and it's super evil. Super Evil.

Dr. Paul  44:13  
Isn't indeed. Thank you so much. Your parting words for our audience, what would you like people to know and be thinking about

Rachel Byers  44:23  
to never give up and to support us in saving more lives. And you can do that by volunteering going to our website, and you can donate and every donation is going towards life saving oxygen medication, building our clinic and we just want to have the whole community empowered and involved in this process. So we're actually working on our first event so it'll be amazing. So that we can snap speakers hopefully mean you that will be incredible. And just a really fun, amazing time just to celebrate and celebrate our freedom. They can't touch us,

Dr. Paul  44:57  
not on once we let them know and your website one More time,

Rachel Byers  45:00  
www dot pro medical freedom.org. Fantastic. Thank

Dr. Paul  45:05  
you, Rachel,

Rachel Byers  45:06  
thank you for having me. It's been an honor. God bless you too. Thank you for all you're doing.

Dr. Paul  45:15  
Welcome, Bernadette, two against the winds. You are the Public Policy Director of informed choice Washington, you host the uninformed life radio, and so much more. And you are our key to what's in the news that we need to know. I'm excited to hear what you got for us this week.

Bernadette Pajer  45:31  
Well, it's it's a little bit alarming, but you know, knowledge is power. Right. So So let's jump right to it. I want to share with you Dr. Paul, and your viewers here, this announcement that came out on April 18, from the White House, a joint statement between the United States Belize, Germany, Indonesia and Senegal, on the announcement of the second global COVID-19 summit. First of all, I thought we this was ending I thought oh micron was very mild. It was acting like a natural vaccine, as it were. And, you know, natural immunity has been proven superior 99.9% recovery rate. What Why are they doing a summit as if we're in the middle of some horrific pandemic?

Dr. Paul  46:22  
Yeah, this this actually parallels what I saw about what's going on in Shanghai in the shutdown of a city have over 20 million people who are locked in their high rises, with no access to the outside world food, shutting down that port, all supposedly because of Omicron. There's some new variant of this harmless variant.

Bernadette Pajer  46:47  
Yeah, it's so I mean, it's so obvious that because what their stated problem and and what they hope to achieve are so absurd and ridiculous and not founded by reality, or science or data, that they must have other goals. You know, that's, that's the only thing a critically thinking person can deduce from what's happening. It's very concerning. People are starving to death in China, because of these lockdowns and what you're going to starve people, where's the risk benefit here? Yes, does not exist. So this statement, talks about a couple of things. And it's concerning that they have commitment, and then want to bring solutions to vaccinate the world, save lives and build better health security for everyone everywhere. I mean, if we were in a sci fi, sci fi dystopian novel, you know, this is 1984. Right here stuff, and I apologize if it's going too far down that rabbit hole of but we're, we're living in it, we're living in the world of language being used against us. You know,

Dr. Paul  48:02  
messaging that you have to have a vaccine to be able to get out of this. We're already out of it, folks. Right. They're trying to desperately recreate the fear. And I see all of this is headed in that direction.

Bernadette Pajer  48:17  
Yeah. And it's just such a confusing time. And later on, in this announcement, they mentioned the ACT accelerator as this mechanism that they intend to do this. But let's look at some of these bullet points. Very first bullet point. And what the White House intends to do involves getting shots into arms. First of all, if this truly was something so serious, so the colloquial language here is I find offensive. Oh, we're just gonna get shots into arms. You know, nevermind the fact that even if it works for you, it wanes and for months, and then what? You get another one, and then what? And you get another one. And then what I mean, it's, it's even if it worked. It's such a short sighted solution, but it doesn't work and it's dangerous. So there we go. They're gonna deploy tests and treatments, especially for the high risk populations. We know the tests don't work, false positives, false negatives. And the highest risk populations need vitamin D and zinc and ivermectin, right. Expanding and protecting the health workforce and minimizing disruptions to routine and essential health services. Well, they could start by not firing the non vaccinated who have natural immunity Hello. And enhancing access to medical countermeasures. Of course, these are only EUA highly profitable countermeasures, not the cheap and effective ones we know actually work and generating sustainable financing for pandemic preparedness, health. security and health systems. All of this to me points to using public health as the as the method of control controlling society and pushing them where you want to go. Yeah,

Dr. Paul  50:17  
we've seen public health, totally abandoned health, and just embrace, forceful rolling out of a failed vaccine program. The conflicts of interests must be so incredibly huge for I mean, there's got to be good people in public health, who are stuck having to promote messaging that is countered to health.

Bernadette Pajer  50:43  
Well, yeah, and you know, I'm glad you mentioned that, because when you say they're stuck there, at some point, the individuals in these systems who know what they're doing and saying is wrong. Need to find the moral courage, and I'm saying, as somebody who's not in that position, right, but need to find the moral courage to stand up and say no, to have that revolution from the inside, because these are good people, as you say, stuck, but are you really stuck?

Dr. Paul  51:15  
Well, we are all responsible for our own actions. And until we stand for what's right, and do the right thing, regardless of the consequence. We're just going to have more and more people jumping on this right? train to hell really?

Bernadette Pajer  51:34  
Yeah. Oh, I agree. You know, you said it. And again, I know I speak from I'm not, I'm not going to lose my job for speaking up, I don't have a job to lose, you know, I am in a relatively good little bubble here. And yet, I do know, this is what it needs to. So we have to support each other, we have to support each other to make the right moral decisions wherever we are. Because if we all stood up and did the right thing, those of us who know that we could end this, we could stop the the attempts for global takeover. And so here is that act accelerator that the White House mentioned. So it says the accelerator is a groundbreaking global collaboration to accelerate development, production, and equitable access to COVID-19 test treatments and vaccines. So it's all about the failed tests, the EUA dangerous treatments, and these equally dangerous and ineffective shots. That's it and setting up a systemic system to rapidly deploy it, you know, with all their high tech and the people involved. The players we've been talking about for two years, Dr. Paul, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Cepi find GAVI the Global Fund. UNITAID welcome, The Who, and the World Bank, and others have done a very thorough job, there's many places you can go find people who have gone down the rabbit hole of each of these, to find the conflict of interest, the big corporate arm, the Gates Foundation involved in every bit of it. It's very, very concerning. And that's where the wet White House is going. So even though you and I and so many see what is going on, we see this attempt for the global reset. They they're not stopping. So we have to stay alert,

Dr. Paul  53:34  
we must be alert. And in this time, where it feels like it's getting better. You know, they just announced the airlines, that ruling where now the airlines can make the decision on their own about masking and woohoo, we're all party. And we don't have to wear a mask on the airline anymore. So everything's fine. But when you share what you've just shared, this is just the law between storms, right?

Bernadette Pajer  53:59  
And as others have who have studied psychology, and and times in history, when psychology and different things have been used to take over entire populations, we see that they have times where they pull back and everybody feels free. And then when you move in, though, it's much easier to recapture these people and take it to the next level and the next level. So I'm really beginning to feel that COVID was just the first foray that controlling us under the guise of public health. And the next thing coming is going to be much bigger and they're getting old little players in place. So this time, it's going to be a lot more difficult to escape what they say you have to do. Yeah. But go ahead. Sorry. Well, it's just I'm a Pollyanna and I believe that goodness and truth and love Light will win. But we have to be informed. So be the news. share the information that comes out, make sure everybody knows get together, people in your community encourage each other, to stand strong against this, and we can do it. But each of us have to stand up and take our part.

Dr. Paul  55:18  
Yep. You answered the question. I was gonna ask, what do we do? How do we move forward? How do we prepare, and we have to link arms with like minded people and keep sharing the truth that we know the information we know to be so and just as you shared, thank you so much, folks, pay attention, don't fall asleep. And thank you for your time.

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