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With the Wind with Dr. Paul – Show 187: Pediatric Perspectives: Measles Without Fear with Lawrence Palevsky, M.D.
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• Dr. Paul — 29.7%
• Larry Palevsky MD — 68.6%

 
00:00:40:28 - 00:01:05:39
Dr. Paul
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Dr. Paul
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00:01:35:15 - 00:01:57:41
Dr. Paul
Good morning. PhD. Welcome to Pediatric Perspectives where we're looking at children's health challenges from a different perspective, one that includes critical thinking when it's not afraid to give you the honest truth. Let me tell you, as your host, I'm Doctor Paul. I am so excited to welcome back a pediatrician friend of mine, Doctor Larry Pulaski. This guy needs no introduction.
 
00:01:57:41 - 00:02:08:32
Dr. Paul
If you want a critical thinker, if you want somebody that has a wealth of experience and knowledge in pediatrics, there's nobody better than you, Larry. So thanks for being on the show.
 
00:02:08:37 - 00:02:14:33
Larry Palevsky MD
Thank you. Paul, it's great to be here. And, can't wait for this conversation. Folks, we are.
 
00:02:14:33 - 00:02:42:52
Dr. Paul
Tackling measles here. Here's the thing. It's all over the news. The public health departments are coming out with their, All I can say is fear mongering, and information is very interesting. Presented a certain way. It can be very misleading while there's some truth. Right. So measles can kill you? Yes. That's true. But measles is. Let's go back.
 
00:02:42:52 - 00:02:52:31
Dr. Paul
Historically, Larry, maybe you can just kind of fill us in. You and I are about that era where I know I had measles as a kid. I think you might have also. Right.
 
00:02:52:35 - 00:02:57:37
Larry Palevsky MD
Yeah. I was born in 1961. I think you were born, and.
 
00:02:57:41 - 00:02:58:41
Dr. Paul
I was 57.
 
00:02:58:50 - 00:03:29:05
Larry Palevsky MD
57. Yeah. So, the measles vaccine didn't come in until 1963. And, you know, every graph you look at, Paul, from the CDC, from PubMed, from the good scientific literature shows that measles infections and measles mortality had gone way, way, way down by the time 1963 rolled along. And it took a while before there was a great uptake in the vaccine.
 
00:03:29:09 - 00:03:55:44
Larry Palevsky MD
But, you know, they make it sound like measles was terrible before the vaccine was given. And then after 1963, magic measles went away and measles mortality went away. In my experience as a as a child, in my experience as a pediatrician, I've seen measles. So I know what it looks like. I know how kids look, and I know the general course of the illness in general.
 
00:03:55:50 - 00:04:34:05
Larry Palevsky MD
Paul, it is not a deadly disease. In fact, generally with good nutrition, proper lighting or dark room, quiet environment, lots of warm fluids, warm baths, skin to skin contact, good vitamin D, K proper doses of vitamin A dosed for two days. Probably enough. Good vitamin C a minimal diet, but lots of hydration. Most of these kids just cruise through it.
 
00:04:34:10 - 00:04:58:21
Larry Palevsky MD
Now you can have cough, you can have runny nose. You can have conjunctivitis. All three are usually part of it. The cough is usually sort of painful sounding. The kids often look like, you know, they're sick. Their eyes are squinty, their cheeks are very swollen and red, and, you know, their mouth is open a little. And there's, you know, lots of mucus coming from the nose.
 
00:04:58:21 - 00:05:26:18
Larry Palevsky MD
But it's not just measles. It's an active way for a child to cleanse and prune and heal some major waste and toxins that are in the body. It is benign almost 100% of the time. Yeah, and that's the way we do it growing up. That's the way the Brady Bunch knew it growing up. And that's the way it has historically been true.
 
00:05:26:23 - 00:05:29:59
Larry Palevsky MD
It's all the vaccine came along.
 
00:05:30:04 - 00:05:50:44
Dr. Paul
Right. So I agree with you 100%. We were not afraid of measles. Went through my family, my friends. I've seen it also as a pediatrician. We had an outbreak in the greater Portland area where I was practicing. So I'm familiar with it. It's not something I'm afraid of. And I'm.
 
00:05:50:44 - 00:05:51:16
Larry Palevsky MD
Actually more.
 
00:05:51:16 - 00:06:09:24
Dr. Paul
Afraid of the response to measles that's happening right now. Almost like the response to Covid, in a way, might have created a lot more problems than what the illness was. So I've got parents calling and contacting me.
 
00:06:09:29 - 00:06:10:21
Larry Palevsky MD
Full disclosure.
 
00:06:10:21 - 00:06:30:19
Dr. Paul
Here. Larry and I, we are just sharing our own personal experiences, and we're not telling anybody what to do. Just take this as information. I'm no longer even licensed, so I'm definitely just Professor doctor Ball. But parents want to know. Let's, I'll give you a scenario of a question that I just had recently, and I'm interested in how you would respond.
 
00:06:30:23 - 00:06:53:41
Dr. Paul
So the mother has a fairly aggressive breast cancer that she's undergoing a lot of treatments for. And they have a daughter who's not vaccinated, and they're worried and I have my own thoughts on this, but I'd be interested in yours. You know, they're going, should we vaccinate to protect mom? Or what should we do?
 
00:06:53:46 - 00:07:18:13
Larry Palevsky MD
Oh my God. Well, first of all, Paul, the one of the greatest tragedies of the vaccine program is that people are taught that if you don't have the measles illness, the measles virus is nowhere to be found. And the only way for that measles virus to be found is if you're exposed to someone who's sick with the virus.
 
00:07:18:18 - 00:07:49:14
Larry Palevsky MD
And that is not true. The measles virus can still be around. There's no such thing as eradicating the existence of an infectious organism. And so you have two very, very poor and false statements that form the basis of why we vaccinate one. Measles isn't here. It's not in your body until someone is sick and gives it to you, which is false.
 
00:07:49:19 - 00:07:59:50
Larry Palevsky MD
And two the vaccine is so good and works so well that it wipes the existence of the virus off the face of the earth.
 
00:07:59:55 - 00:08:24:07
Dr. Paul
Well, we know that's not true. The vaccine has been, in some ways, a dangerous experiment. And let me let me extrapolate. And you can and you can add to this. If the vaccine was so effective that it actually eradicated and left a person protected for life. Okay, maybe we've got something, but it's not lasting, right?
 
00:08:24:09 - 00:08:47:22
Dr. Paul
It's not giving lasting immunity. People with lasting immunity are like you and I, who had the actual illness, right? So as our generation moves along and to the six feet under, the proportion of older adults and even younger adults who are protected is going way down because vaccine induced immunity is not lasting. So we're going to.
 
00:08:47:22 - 00:08:48:20
Larry Palevsky MD
See way more.
 
00:08:48:20 - 00:08:50:48
Dr. Paul
Epidemics, is my prediction. What do you think?
 
00:08:50:53 - 00:09:29:55
Larry Palevsky MD
Well, there are two points I want to make based on what you just said. One is that when we see an outbreak, people automatically just cut out the thinking that the vaccine failed. Remember, vaccination does not always equal immunity. Correct. Therefore, vaccination doesn't always equal protection. Correct. With the MMR specifically, there is an estimated 2 to 10% of children who get the MMR who failed to develop any antibody response against the measles at all.
 
00:09:30:00 - 00:09:56:35
Larry Palevsky MD
And then you have a percentage of kids that are going to get an antibody, and you think it's a protective antibody, but those antibodies are not protective. There are different kinds of antibodies. And so they may have the vaccine. They may have antibodies but it's not a protective antibody. And then the third group, which Doctor Paul just said is the group that gets the vaccine.
 
00:09:56:40 - 00:10:24:26
Larry Palevsky MD
And they do produce protective antibodies. And those protective antibodies may be last 3 or 4 months. And so you have three major categories of children who get the vaccine, who are not immune. And so to think that an unvaccinated child is carrying the germ that no unvaccinated child could be carrying is not even science. It's myth and it's false.
 
00:10:24:30 - 00:10:51:02
Larry Palevsky MD
And the other thing that brings back to one of your first questions to me is we no longer have the mothers and even some of the grandmothers who see measles or even chickenpox and go, oh yeah, that's nothing. We know how to take care of that. So the propaganda is only fear. So when the word measles comes up, there's freak out.
 
00:10:51:07 - 00:11:28:14
Larry Palevsky MD
And because the vaccine is what's called a live attenuated vaccine, meaning there's live replicating virus in there that can spread. And there are studies to show. I saw two studies, one that said that the viral strands of RNA of measles are found in the nasal passages up to 30 days after getting the shot. And then I found a very small study where it's actually present up to 100 days following the shot.
 
00:11:28:19 - 00:12:13:32
Larry Palevsky MD
Yeah. And so no one says, oh, the outbreak is caused by vaccinated people. Or no one says the outbreak is caused by vaccine failure. No one says that the vaccinated are spreading the the infection. We only say you're unvaccinated. You're the pariah. And I'm telling you, start thinking, guys, you are not being told the truth. And any woman or man who's immunocompromised is most, most advised to avoid being around a live virus vaccine.
 
00:12:13:37 - 00:12:14:23
Dr. Paul
Yeah.
 
00:12:14:28 - 00:12:17:50
Larry Palevsky MD
And that's out of the package insert. Right. In my opinion.
 
00:12:17:55 - 00:12:35:59
Dr. Paul
So my thought was and I think you've basically said the same thing, but for that question that came from a parent who's, you know, mom is immunocompromised, should daughter get the vaccine it would be a big no because you're going to now have daughter possibly exposing mom to live virus from the vaccine.
 
00:12:36:04 - 00:12:49:26
Larry Palevsky MD
Correct. Yeah. When live virus could already be in community and dormant. This would give you live virus that may not be dormant.
 
00:12:49:28 - 00:13:13:20
Dr. Paul
So, I don't know. Have you had a chance to look into the case in Texas? We had this. This has all been provoked because of a death of a child. And any death of a child is sad. Just to kind of set the record straight for our our viewers, there have been over 100 deaths in the last 20 years from the MMR that's using theirs, which picks up maybe 1%.
 
00:13:13:25 - 00:13:33:27
Dr. Paul
So that means they've probably been maybe 1000 to 10,000 deaths from the MMR. And there have only been 1 or 2 deaths from measles. So let that sink in. But I wonder if you've gotten any more information, about this particular unfortunate story of this child who was hospitalized and then ended up dying?
 
00:13:33:36 - 00:13:57:17
Larry Palevsky MD
Yes, Paul, this is a tragic story. You know, having worked in in an E.R. for nine years and run a pediatric ICU. And, Nic, you worked in a neonatal ICU. It's it's always devastating to hold a child in your hands or in your arms and watch them die. Especially watching the parents. It's just not the correct order of life.
 
00:13:57:22 - 00:14:38:01
Larry Palevsky MD
And it's devastating. And this was a devastating, death. But I want to I want to remind our listeners there's a difference between death from measles and death with measles. And we don't know if this child died with measles or from measles. This is a child who, six years old, came into the hospital from a Mennonite community, a community that is, insular, takes care of itself and only comes for medical advice when ultimately needed.
 
00:14:38:06 - 00:15:12:06
Larry Palevsky MD
They brought their daughter to the emergency room at the hospital because she was having high fevers that would not go down. And she was having respiratory distress. They admitted her into the hospital. She was diagnosed with RSV pneumonia. And the report is that the hospital staff treated the parents poorly. The inference from that, that I've gotten is because the child was unvaccinated and had measles.
 
00:15:12:11 - 00:15:45:33
Larry Palevsky MD
The parents desperately were calling on the hospital staff to help their daughter with breathing treatments, and they failed to actually help the child when needed. The child eventually died of respiratory failure. The medical records are secured by HHS at the moment and they are being reviewed. There is some indication that the parents may have left the child's bedside for a period of time.
 
00:15:45:38 - 00:16:23:16
Larry Palevsky MD
It is not clear if she got the MMR or not, and it's not clear what kind of medications they gave her. Please remember that medical intervention and medical error is the third leading cause of death in this country. And so just like we saw during Covid, when people would have a motorcycle accident, a gunshot wound, a stroke or a heart attack, and they come into the emergency room and God forbid they died and they were positive for Covid.
 
00:16:23:20 - 00:16:52:18
Larry Palevsky MD
Their death certificate said death due to Covid, and that was not a death from Covid. That was a death with Covid. And so the public was made to believe that it was a Covid death. And those numbers were hyper inflated. And I can't say until we get a full evaluation of the medical records why this child died, but there are questions that need to be asked.
 
00:16:52:23 - 00:17:24:06
Larry Palevsky MD
We don't know the medications. We don't know whether she got an MMR when the parents were not there. We don't know what actually happened. So for now, we reserve judgment because I've seen videos, people saying she got the MMR, she didn't get the MMR. Let's let the family please mourn the passing of a beautiful little girl, six years old, and let's reserve judgment before we make any other conclusion.
 
00:17:24:11 - 00:17:34:52
Larry Palevsky MD
But it is not possible at this time. Not possible to say whether she died with measles or from measles.
 
00:17:34:57 - 00:18:05:51
Dr. Paul
Yeah, I would agree with you. There is an incredible article written in the, Children's Health Defense Defender from March 5th. So just this past week, talks about Doctor Ben Edwards, an integrative medicine family practitioner in Lubbock, Texas. He's been on the grounds he's seen personally over 70 patients in a makeshift clinic with measles, went to heroic measures to make sure that they were providing budesonide, so they could do rest ray treatments if necessary.
 
00:18:05:51 - 00:18:27:53
Dr. Paul
Vitamin A from cod liver oil. Now it's interesting. Larry, I'll be interested to hear what you have to say about this. I saw that the American Academy of Pediatrics. This just came across my emails today as a statement. Vitamin A at any dose does not protect against measles. And no parent should give to their child vitamin A in hopes of preventing measles.
 
00:18:27:58 - 00:18:46:04
Dr. Paul
Wow. I mean, even the W.H.O. and I, I've heard I couldn't find it, but apparently it's on the CDC website somewhere that you can use vitamin A. I mean, we had our, you know, trusted Red book, right? That gave the protocol for to two days of high dose vitamin D.
 
00:18:46:08 - 00:19:13:02
Larry Palevsky MD
Right. So, Paula, I, I had the privilege and the pleasure of speaking to Doctor Ben Edwards, this past week. And I asked him what was going on in Texas and he said that he was treating kids with, cod liver oil to get them their vitamin A, and within 24 hours, they had improved. And he used higher doses than we would use as maintenance.
 
00:19:13:07 - 00:19:41:14
Larry Palevsky MD
So we might use a teaspoon of cod liver oil a day for a kid. But he was using, more than that. And, he saw these kids turn around. What was so interesting to me was why so many kids who had the measles were suffering from respiratory symptoms, respiratory symptoms are very rare sequelae of measles. They happen.
 
00:19:41:18 - 00:20:04:57
Larry Palevsky MD
But the number of kids that he was telling me about, who were who were having respiratory symptoms, was out of the ordinary. From what I remember as a kid and what I remember training as a physician and seeing in clinical practice. And I asked him, why are these kids having such respiratory symptoms when it's not a very common, it's rare and it happens.
 
00:20:05:08 - 00:20:28:48
Larry Palevsky MD
It's a small, small, less than 1%, occurrence. And he didn't know. And I sort of asked him, is, is there some poisoning going around that we need to know about? Because we do know, Paul, that there was a an MMR vaccination campaign in Texas sometime in January. And again.
 
00:20:28:55 - 00:20:30:17
Dr. Paul
I had not heard about that.
 
00:20:30:22 - 00:20:58:52
Larry Palevsky MD
That's what I had heard. And the literature does, does say that if there's a vaccine strain that's leading to the development of what looks like clinical measles, and you proved that the measles that a kid had was a vaccine strain. It is not a real measles case and should not be counted. And so, you know, last I saw was 146 or so, cases of measles.
 
00:20:58:57 - 00:21:22:50
Larry Palevsky MD
And we don't know how many of them were vaccine strain, if any at all, in which case the numbers would be lower of real measles if they were doing their due diligence and checking for vaccine strain. Yeah, it is well documented in the literature, Paul, that one of the risk factors for complications for measles is poor nutrition and vitamin A deficiency.
 
00:21:23:04 - 00:21:23:44
Dr. Paul
Yes.
 
00:21:23:49 - 00:21:24:44
Larry Palevsky MD
And so a big.
 
00:21:24:45 - 00:21:45:08
Dr. Paul
Reason I think overseas I mean, when we're talking about measles in some people overseas, we'll be watching this show. You you do need to take into consideration where you are. Mortality from measles in countries that are very low and overall vitamin K status, I think is significantly higher, than it is in the US.
 
00:21:45:13 - 00:22:30:33
Larry Palevsky MD
Remember when the, Covid shot came out, there was an EUA, an emergency use authorization for the shot, and the medical community and the media had to deny any possible treatment that would make patients who suffered Covid symptoms any better in order for them to utilize the EU way and put the shot into the population. And this seems because the American Academy of Pediatrics is actually unbelievably, unethically, medically recognizing, recommending disability.
 
00:22:30:38 - 00:22:32:17
Dr. Paul
Get them in a right.
 
00:22:32:19 - 00:23:04:08
Larry Palevsky MD
They're recommending the MMR as treatment for measles. It just harkens back to just a couple of years ago when, you know, we were we were denying all the treatments that were helping patients with relieve their symptoms of Covid only to be able to get through the vaccine. And now, you know, we have a product that doesn't even have lifelong immunity or short term immunity for some or any immunity for others.
 
00:23:04:21 - 00:23:13:25
Larry Palevsky MD
And we're pushing it. Not to mention, Paul, which I know we're going to get into the massive dangers of this injection.
 
00:23:13:26 - 00:23:44:28
Dr. Paul
Yeah, let's talk about that. I remember, stumbling on the the fact that I believe it's the measles viral load that's in the vaccine is listed in the package insert as at least a certain number. There's no upper limit. We don't know how much is in that vaccine. So right there, is it any wonder we sometimes have a huge problem with that vaccine?
 
00:23:44:28 - 00:24:07:47
Dr. Paul
But talk some more to our listeners who are you know, I remember when measles came through the Portland area and I had a practice with probably at that time, maybe a few hundred completely unvaccinated children, and they were scared. And a lot of them came in for the MMR. What would you tell families who maybe they have unvaccinated children?
 
00:24:07:52 - 00:24:12:08
Dr. Paul
The risk benefit scenario, for that decision.
 
00:24:12:13 - 00:24:41:14
Larry Palevsky MD
Okay, so first of all, you know, listening to the stories of parents for over 25 years, I unfortunately heard the same story over and over and over again. My child was fine, went in to get the MMR and within hours, days, weeks, months had a seizure, intense crying.
 
00:24:41:19 - 00:25:27:06
Larry Palevsky MD
Inconsolable crying. Withdrawal. Glassy eyed. Lost eye contact. Lost speech was sad all the time. Self-injury. Banging the head against the wall. Stimming. Physical stems. Vocal stems. Spinning in circles. Crying all the time. Bending over in pain. Becoming aggressive. Hitting others and just getting lost to any relatedness. And time and time again. Paul. Those parents were told it's unrelated to the shot and the parents were devastated.
 
00:25:27:11 - 00:26:15:31
Larry Palevsky MD
They were gaslit because some authority who wasn't there to watch it happen and could not accept the possibility. And when you hear it once, Paul, you know, it's a one off. You hear it ten times. Wow. Then you hear it hundreds, if not thousands, hundreds of thousands of times. The question that must be asked is, is there something in the MMR that could, pierce the blood brain barrier and get into the brain and cause such severe symptoms that eventually became known as encephalitis, encephalopathy, and neuroinflammation?
 
00:26:15:36 - 00:26:37:39
Larry Palevsky MD
And the answer to that question is yes, Paul. There are ingredients in the MMR that can open up and or pierce the blood brain barrier and allow for vaccine materials to go from the bloodstream into the brain. Do they belong in the brain, Paul? No.
 
00:26:37:53 - 00:26:39:31
Dr. Paul
Including live viruses.
 
00:26:39:43 - 00:27:09:10
Larry Palevsky MD
Including anything that can pass if the blood brain barrier is open, which includes whatever's in the MMR. Yeah. And when I first started looking at vaccine ingredients, and I saw the first three ingredients after the live viruses sorbitol, sodium phosphate and sucrose, now sorbitol. And again, I'm not an expert at this. All I did was read the literature.
 
00:27:09:14 - 00:27:49:25
Larry Palevsky MD
I don't need to be a toxicologist to figure what the literature says. Sorbitol is a cousin of Polysorbate 80. Polysorbate 80 is in every vaccine that has an aluminum nanoparticle, which includes every vaccine except the MMR, the varicella, and the injectable polio vaccine. But sorbitol is in the MMR, and so the toll is an emulsifier. And it's well known that emulsifiers are used by the pharmaceutical industry to attach to drugs, to more successfully get the drugs across the blood brain barrier into the brain.
 
00:27:49:30 - 00:28:22:41
Larry Palevsky MD
So I started reading about sorbitol. It's a sugar. And I know that if you look at what things cause opening of the blood brain barrier, one of them is a high sugar or a high salt load. So you have sorbitol and you have sucrose. So, you know, some of the I've seen some of the summaries of the MMR small amounts of, but we don't know what amount is in there and we don't know what kind of solute load.
 
00:28:22:46 - 00:29:04:00
Larry Palevsky MD
From a medical perspective, shall you load it is how concentrated it is and what effects it has on the blood brain barrier. But then I went deeper and I said, well what is sorbitol used for? And then I took a deep breath, and I found several articles that said sorbitol is used as a transport bound to materials that will and can and are used to bind to chemotherapy that allows the chemotherapy to penetrate the blood brain barrier into the brain to treat brain cancer.
 
00:29:04:05 - 00:29:35:26
Larry Palevsky MD
And so the pharmaceutical industry knows what sorbitol does. And so there are two questions that I've asked many, many, many doctors and never gotten an answer. Do vaccine ingredients get into the brain? If they do, what do they do? Because they don't belong in the brain. And what's the mechanism by which they do get into the brain? Why would you want them to get into the brain?
 
00:29:35:31 - 00:29:56:26
Larry Palevsky MD
And excuse me, but if they use one or more of the ingredients in the pharmaceutical side of the company to help get the chemotherapy across the blood brain barrier, then they know that if they don't make the same thing with the MMR.
 
00:29:56:31 - 00:30:24:33
Dr. Paul
Yeah. So before we run out of time, Larry, I want, I want us to give our audience some concrete thoughts and ideas of how to proceed if this thing just keeps on sort of rolling. I'm hoping it won't. You know, every year we have a number of outbreaks of measles. It's other than one year, I think there was over a thousand cases, but generally it's in the hundreds.
 
00:30:24:38 - 00:30:29:33
Dr. Paul
But let's just say for whatever reason, this thing really blows up. What advice can we give to parents?
 
00:30:29:44 - 00:30:53:50
Larry Palevsky MD
If anybody was listening to RFK Jr last week, he specifically said at a news conference that in 2024, there were 16 measles outbreaks in the United States. Did anybody hear about them? No. So far as of that date when he said it, there were only four measles outbreaks in the United States. So something's happening that is different.
 
00:30:53:55 - 00:31:09:14
Larry Palevsky MD
And so measles is predominantly a benign illness. Fever, cough, runny nose, pink eye and, lots of mucus production. So should parents in.
 
00:31:09:14 - 00:31:11:19
Dr. Paul
The hospital or should they stay home? Right.
 
00:31:11:20 - 00:31:48:17
Larry Palevsky MD
This is an opportunity to turn down the lights, to quiet the home, to hydrate your child with warm fluids. Not juices, not sugars, not fruits, not things cold. Give your child a warm bath. Throw in some Epsom salts and baking soda. Get into bed with your child. Hold your child and sleep with your child. Please refrain from using acetaminophen that's branded in several brand name.
 
00:31:48:22 - 00:32:18:44
Larry Palevsky MD
Products that I will not name. So, please know acetaminophen is not just acetaminophen on the bottle. There are brand names for it. But please do not use it. Use it. And there's a chemical in the body called glutathione that is most needed when you or your children are sick. It will help them clean out whatever garbage they are cleaning out through the mucus, through the cough, through the fever.
 
00:32:18:49 - 00:32:49:56
Larry Palevsky MD
And this acetaminophen will steal the glutathione away from their liver and prolong their illness, worsen their illness, and make it more difficult for them to heal and so there are easy ways to help with the fever. There are essential oils. There is homoeopathy. There are herbs, there are teas, and there are wet sock treatments. There are cool cloths.
 
00:32:50:06 - 00:32:59:14
Larry Palevsky MD
Quiet the room. Quiet activity. Hydrate. Hydrate, hydrate. Get into bed and observe.
 
00:32:59:19 - 00:33:23:12
Dr. Paul
If things do escalate and this is starting to become a much more common thing this year than we've ever seen before. Based on what we went through with Covid, when can you. Anything's possible these days. I would wonder about making sure if you if you have, a home kit that includes make sure you've got some vitamin A.
 
00:33:23:17 - 00:33:24:24
Larry Palevsky MD
And copper.
 
00:33:24:29 - 00:33:34:22
Dr. Paul
Not liver oil. And I'd say if there's a way to get a budesonide inhaler, or some guidance night for a nebulizer, you do it right.
 
00:33:34:26 - 00:33:59:28
Larry Palevsky MD
You know, and and for those of you, I left out a treatment that I use besides essential oils and homeopathy, cell salts. These are tissue salts. There are 12 Schuessler cell salts that are very, very effective. And you don't have to memorize how to use them. Get the 12. Keep the kit at home. Get a little pamphlet that explains how to use it.
 
00:33:59:33 - 00:34:26:56
Larry Palevsky MD
And, you know, there are some very specific for, fever. There's one specific for a clear, runny nose. There's one specific for a white runny nose with maybe some ear pain. There are a couple that are specific for, yellowish deep cough with lots of mucus coming out. So utilize them. They're benign. They're easy. They don't suppress the immune system.
 
00:34:27:09 - 00:35:00:27
Larry Palevsky MD
They actually support the immune system. And for those of you who are interested, there is some people in the literature who have made claim that many, many illnesses, acute and chronic, are secondary to mineral deficiencies. So have a good mineral supplement on hand as well. Not just vitamin A, cod liver oil, vitamin C, vitamin D, K, MHC, nickel, cysteine, budesonide if you can.
 
00:35:00:27 - 00:35:30:22
Larry Palevsky MD
Cell salts. Homoeopathy. Essential oils. These are all real really good things to have on hand. And, they're they're easy to use. They're not dangerous. You don't have to use the very high doses that the WRU and the CDC recommend. But, two days, there's evidence in the literature. Two consecutive days. Vitamin A reduces morbidity and mortality in the children.
 
00:35:30:36 - 00:35:37:25
Larry Palevsky MD
I have no idea what the American Academy of Pediatrics is doing.
 
00:35:37:30 - 00:35:41:23
Dr. Paul
And thank you for that. And is this information available on your website by any chance?
 
00:35:41:28 - 00:36:00:45
Larry Palevsky MD
You know, I have a section on my website called If Your Child Is Sick. There's not something specific for measles, but, you can clip this. From, from our, our interview and repeated over and over and over again. He can write it down and get it on. Get it on your list to purchase for the house.
 
00:36:00:59 - 00:36:36:17
Dr. Paul
Very good. I want us to bring up one more point, and then I'll let you have the last word. There is plenty of evidence that there are benefits to having childhood illnesses like measles. A significant reduction in heart disease deaths, a significant reduction in cancer deaths. So, you know, when you try to balance out this decision, if you're wrestling with it, you can come up with a lot of really solid reasons not to rush out and get an MMR, especially when, I mean, you just you actually don't want to do that.
 
00:36:36:22 - 00:36:42:42
Dr. Paul
If your child might have measles because now you're loading them up with vaccine strain and they're going to have whatever else is going around.
 
00:36:42:47 - 00:37:35:35
Larry Palevsky MD
Measles is a benign illness. The problem is that several generations have lost that knowledge. It really was folklore. And what most people don't know is that measles improved in morbidity and mortality, in other words, in severity of symptoms and in death rates. Once. Better nutrition, better sanitation and better hygiene were policies implemented in communities around the country. And so when a child gets sick, and I remember in the 1980s, I was working with pediatricians who were 70 years old and older, and they had been practicing since the 1940s.
 
00:37:35:40 - 00:38:12:42
Larry Palevsky MD
And they often said when children had their flu like illnesses, their measles, their mumps, they rubella, their chickenpox, they would only see after the children resolved one or more developmental and or growth spurts, the children would start walking, they'd start talking, they'd behave better. They'd sleep better, their appetites would improve. They'd grow in height. And all of this knowledge has been lost.
 
00:38:12:47 - 00:38:51:19
Larry Palevsky MD
And what it's been replaced with is fear. And we need to have the experience. And I'll never forget, Paul, when I when I've been working with parents in my practice and I guide them through the experience of their children being sick and they realize, hey, I can do this. They become empowered. They become strong. They become confident, and they become knowledgeable about the value of an acute illness that isn't suppressed with over-the-counter medicines and pharmaceutical medicines or vaccines.
 
00:38:51:23 - 00:39:26:44
Larry Palevsky MD
You cannot in any way, shape or form, be in any way close to being confident that a shot will protect your child from an infection because of the extreme failure of this shot. And so people might say to me, well, but but we don't see it as often anymore. And the reason we don't see it anymore is because we've traded the acute presentation of the illness for now, chronic inflammation and chronic disease in children.
 
00:39:26:58 - 00:39:50:13
Dr. Paul
There you have it, folks. I join you, Larry, in sharing with our audience. We don't want you to be afraid of measles. You don't need to be afraid of measles. If you happen to have a child who ends up in respirator distress, of course. Get medical care and, you know, jump on all these things we've been talking about because it'll turn kids around quick, and you probably won't even end up needing to go to the hospital.
 
00:39:50:13 - 00:40:00:10
Dr. Paul
If you do have to go to the hospital. Never leave your child side. I want you to have the last word, Larry. Well, what parting words do you have for our audience?
 
00:40:00:14 - 00:40:27:42
Larry Palevsky MD
Please remember to critically think when you hear what's said in the news. Please question it when you hear someone like RFK Jr. Say what he said in his op ed page. Take a deep breath and look at it and see. Wow, this is the first time in the history of our lives that a government official has talked about.
 
00:40:27:47 - 00:41:00:17
Larry Palevsky MD
Have a conversation about safety and efficacy of a vaccine. Have a conversation about informed consent. Have a conversation about the fact that it is your choice. Have a conversation about good nutrition and have a conversation about supplementation to treat something like measles. This is a win. Yes. Maybe he said something about community immunity and, herd immunity that may not have been as correct as we might know it.
 
00:41:00:22 - 00:41:28:05
Larry Palevsky MD
But please don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. This man is not someone you need to idolize and worship. Just do the work that we need to do on the ground. Get the work done. Allow his path to cross our paths. Once he has his team in place, once he has the kind of people around him who can support and help him.
 
00:41:28:19 - 00:42:05:13
Larry Palevsky MD
Because I will tell you, no one knows what this man is up against. Cut him some slack. Even if he didn't write that article and it is attributed to him, it is an advance. And it's an advance from anything we've ever seen from a government official. So think, listen, examine and dive into the truth. Because I'll tell you, it's not necessarily coming from the legacy mainstream media.
 
00:42:05:26 - 00:42:11:02
Dr. Paul
There you have it, folks. If people want to get Ahold of you, Larry, how do they reach out to find you? What's your website?
 
00:42:11:13 - 00:42:32:29
Larry Palevsky MD
Thank you. Paul, it's Doctor Ski, Dr. spelling in my last name. Piers and Peter, Amy Olivas and Victor S's, and Sam K is. And Kate lives in yellow.com. You can see all my newsletters, my videos. It'll get you to my Instagram page, my telegram page and everything else page. So, there you have it. I hope you enjoy it.
 
00:42:32:31 - 00:42:50:35
Larry Palevsky MD
Thanks, Paul, for this opportunity. Please take a deep breath. Please take a deep breath. Measles can and it be easily resolved. With the right attitude, the right nutrition, the right supplementation and the right environment.
 
00:42:50:40 - 00:42:52:29
Dr. Paul
I couldn't agree more. Thank you Larry.
 
00:42:52:34 - 00:42:54:31
Larry Palevsky MD
Thank you Paul. See you soon.
 
00:42:54:36 - 00:43:18:47
Dr. Paul
Absolutely. You can also find me at Kids First forever.com. I coach I am not licensed so I don't diagnose or treat. But if you find yourself in a crisis and just want some input from somebody with a lot of experience. Check us out. My partner, Didi Hoover also does some incredible coaching at kids First forever.com. Look forward to seeing you next week.
 
00:43:18:52 - 00:43:20:23
 
My name is Mary Wildman.
 
00:43:20:28 - 00:43:22:47
 
Okay. We're going to share a picture of him now, what's his name?
 
00:43:22:48 - 00:43:24:53
 
Nicholas Wildman.
 
00:43:24:58 - 00:43:28:04
 
So there's Nicholas. Nicholas or Nicholas?
 
00:43:28:08 - 00:43:30:00
 
Yes. We call him Nick.
 
00:43:30:14 - 00:43:56:26
 
He's 21 and he has autism from the MMR vaccine. And there was a whole show on this family. So this is Billy's age 21. And if they listen to this lady and myself and my husband and our families years ago, your kids would not be injured. That's right. And that's the way it is. So let's let's get on Penn Hills reset.
 
00:43:56:28 - 00:43:59:50
 
Okay. Tell us what happened.
 
00:43:59:55 - 00:44:13:25
 
Okay, so my son at 11 months old, let me back up a little bit before that. He was a happy baby. Our milestones were right on target. He,
 
00:44:13:30 - 00:44:17:29
 
Let's picture here. Let me just show you. Keep. You keep talking. He'll show you the papers.
 
00:44:17:37 - 00:44:43:43
 
It was, He started to talk. He had baby words. He, walked when he should talk. When he should. Everything was perfect. He became, ill with an ear infection at 11 months old. And so we ended up taking him to the pediatrician, and the pediatrician said, well, if he's not better in a week, bring him back and we'll put him on an antibiotic.
 
00:44:43:48 - 00:45:15:37
 
Well, week went by. Still wasn't any good. And I took him back to the pediatrician where, the doctor put him on an antibiotic. And, of course, I, gave him the antibiotic. And the doctor said at the time that if he's not better by next week, which was two days after his first birthday, we had an well baby appointment at that point to get vaccines and to get, you know, make sure everything was fine at one year old.
 
00:45:15:41 - 00:45:33:25
 
So we went back and I took him back at his, one year, checkup, his two days after his first birthday. And he was still pulling on his ears and I still had him on the antibiotic because we weren't done with the how the antibiotics.
 
00:45:33:25 - 00:45:35:40
 
You think he had, I learned.
 
00:45:35:42 - 00:45:36:15
 
So,
 
00:45:36:20 - 00:45:37:32
 
Yeah. So it was a thing that.
 
00:45:37:35 - 00:46:01:40
 
Oh, we were protecting him, you know, getting getting well. So I ended up, while I was at the doctor's appointment, it said on the doctor's notes that day, still pulling on his ears. Ears are inflamed, and. And all this is on the notes. And meanwhile, it was his one year, checkup. So they said he's due for his MMR vaccine.
 
00:46:01:44 - 00:46:06:31
 
And it was just the MMR vaccine? Yes. In those days, that's what they did.
 
00:46:06:36 - 00:46:27:28
 
And so we ended up with the MMR vaccine and, they gave it to him and he started to scream right there in the doctor's office. And I thought, boy, you don't like that vaccine very well. When my mother and I were together, we dressed the baby and she took him out to the car. I stayed and talked to the nurse.
 
00:46:27:29 - 00:46:51:04
 
She told me, I'm probably going a fever with this. Just give them, baths and Tylenol and bring the fever down. And I paid the bill, and I went out to the car, and he was still screaming, and, we started home. We live about 20 minutes from that pediatrician's office, about ten minutes down the road. We had to pull the car over because he was screaming so violently.
 
00:46:51:09 - 00:47:09:53
 
After we pulled the car over, I gave him Tylenol and we I held him the rest of the way home and, he screamed for three days. High fever went as high as 104, and after the three days, it was like I took my baby to the doctor and brought somebody else's get home. It wasn't like the same baby.
 
00:47:09:58 - 00:47:48:56
 
He stopped talking. He stopped looking at me. He, Didn't play like he used to play. Didn't play with his brother. He had developed some strange tendencies, which now I know were things like pica and, tantrums and and so, he, he ended up with, me taking him back to the pediatrician again and the I said to the pediatrician, I think the fever caused deafness because my whole idea was that nothing could be wrong with the vaccine.
 
00:47:49:01 - 00:48:11:01
 
It must be because he had that high fever. He's deaf. So I took him back to the pediatrician. The doctor clapped the stands and turned and looked at him, and he said, oh, that his hearing's fine. You're going to have to work with them to make them talk. Well, I thought, okay, well, he says to me, you have an older son you probably give everything to the younger son is what you get the older one.
 
00:48:11:06 - 00:48:33:27
 
And I thought, yeah, that's true, because I'm a fair mom. And, so I took the baby home, and, I tortured him because, you know, I remember a meltdown in front of the refrigerator where he wanted a popsicle. I gave his brother a popsicle, and he wanted one, but he couldn't ask me for it. And I'm saying to him, you have to ask me.
 
00:48:33:27 - 00:48:56:49
 
You have to use your word. Say it. Say, I want a popsicle, mommy. And and he's on the floor screaming. And, So I tortured him. And then, every month, I would take him back to the pediatrician and say, something's wrong with this hearing. You know? And, the doctor just kept dismissing me. Finally, on one of the visits, I got this young doctor.
 
00:48:56:56 - 00:49:25:26
 
I think he was only doing his residency or internship or whatever, and he started asking me questions about what does Nick like to do? What kind of toys does he play with? Well, at that point, he wasn't playing with toys like typical kids were like my other son. And he started, pulling strings out of things like washcloths and and towels and bedspreads and playing with them.
 
00:49:25:26 - 00:49:45:36
 
He would twirl them and then he would eat them. He had developed pica. And so I was telling him about that, and he started asking me about him playing with his brother. I said, now, and Nick's standing in the corner, flapping his hands with this big smile on his face, because when he flapped he seemed happy. And he says, does he do that very often?
 
00:49:45:36 - 00:50:08:14
 
And I said, oh yeah, he's a happy baby. Well, I didn't know the signs of autism, and I was a teacher at the time and didn't see kids coming through my classes with autism, and I had no clue what autism really was. The only kid I ever saw come through at the school was a child that had, Asperger's, and that was nothing like my son.
 
00:50:08:19 - 00:50:29:10
 
So it ended up that, we he said, oh, I'm going to refer you to the Child Development Center at Children's Hospital. And I said, okay, well, they test his hearing there because, I believe her that this is a hearing problem we have. And he said, oh, yeah, they'll test his hearing. So we couldn't get in there for six months.
 
00:50:29:15 - 00:50:51:02
 
And after, we were called and told, you know, your appointment is this week. When you come, it's going to take 5 to 6 hours to go through the tests. And don't bring your other son, bring enough, diapers, bottles, whatever you need. We did it. Took them three hours. They came back and said, if your son has autism, my husband's like.
 
00:50:51:07 - 00:51:14:08
 
So how did he get it? And how do we get rid of it? Because at that point, he was, tantrum ING all the time and just and and his world. And we couldn't get through to him. And so, the doctor that the psychologist said to my husband, there is no cause we don't know what causes that.
 
00:51:14:08 - 00:51:30:06
 
And we have no cure. And we were just crying when we left our home devastated. It was devastating. It was awful. So we ended up by, getting him therapy. And that was all we could do.
 
00:51:30:11 - 00:51:34:30
 
Now, in those days, there was. Well, there's maybe I was just sort of being talked about, wasn't it?
 
00:51:34:30 - 00:51:37:43
 
Right? It wasn't even. You had to be really rich.
 
00:51:37:48 - 00:51:38:38
 
Right.
 
00:51:38:43 - 00:51:43:41
 
And mega-rich insurance can cover anything about that.
 
00:51:43:46 - 00:52:04:17
 
Oh. Like we were fortunate I had a rich granny. Oh I can only lightly. We've made the family hate me. But you know what can you do. You gotta do what you can. That's right. Yeah. And there was that. And then the diet was just coming in from England. That you may have been in way more of ahead of us, but we were just starting to hear about the diet.
 
00:52:04:26 - 00:52:11:48
 
Yeah, we tried the diet for six months, casein free, gluten free, and didn't see anything. And,
 
00:52:11:53 - 00:52:13:20
 
So is he not on the diet now?
 
00:52:13:21 - 00:52:14:08
 
He is not.
 
00:52:14:15 - 00:52:17:31
 
I need oh, wow. And does he not have meltdowns or tantrums or anything?
 
00:52:17:31 - 00:52:45:09
 
Now he is a lot more controllable now. And, I think that after he went through puberty, we saw improvements. Now he is on a vitamin regimen that we rub into his back because he, triggers vomiting or he takes any oral medication. So we get a compounded at the apothecary and we rub it on his back, and, and that's all we have him on is that vitamin regimen.
 
00:52:45:20 - 00:52:47:59
 
And now he lives at home with you. What does he do?
 
00:52:48:04 - 00:52:55:37
 
Well, he just graduated from high school. Nice. Yeah. He's 21. And, you know, the kids can go till they're 21, and.
 
00:52:55:37 - 00:52:56:53
 
He enjoyed it there today.
 
00:52:56:53 - 00:53:04:34
 
He loved it. Okay. And now we have nothing because it's like after the kids graduate, then they're no longer.
 
00:53:04:34 - 00:53:07:03
 
What does he want to do? What he wants to do.
 
00:53:07:05 - 00:53:32:01
 
Well, he's still nonverbal at this point. Yes. Doesn't really have a good communication system. He, he uses a a on an iPad. And he also has some sign language, some sign. But, my concern is that he needs 24 over seven care because he's one of these kids. That's a a safety risk. He he's a runner.
 
00:53:32:15 - 00:53:33:56
 
He will escape.
 
00:53:34:01 - 00:53:37:17
 
So he's just a homebody right now. Yeah. That's not a.
 
00:53:37:17 - 00:53:40:27
 
Bad thing to start a program for kids with autism.
 
00:53:40:32 - 00:53:46:02
 
Yeah. Yeah. He's 21. So same age, barely.
 
00:53:46:07 - 00:54:25:50
 
Yeah. We were in the omnibus cases. We we did file. I asked the pediatrician to fill out the Vera's report, and they would not, so I did. And then, we were in we, filed for through the compensation, act, and, we're in that case for 15 years. We had a lawyer file it for us, but it was a family friend, and he really didn't know too much about you know, defending people on the on the spectrum or how to even go about filing cases like this.
 
00:54:25:50 - 00:54:55:01
 
And, after the first case was tried with the about the MMR of the civil case, he backed out of our case. So he said there's no way to win this. And so he so I was the one that ended up fighting it, because I couldn't find another lawyer that would take the case. And I believe that if the lawyer went to put down that it was autism, that it was encephalitis or some other.
 
00:54:55:03 - 00:54:55:35
 
Yeah.
 
00:54:55:40 - 00:54:57:11
 
The word autism is not.
 
00:54:57:16 - 00:55:19:14
 
It's the word autism. Yeah. And I think we would have one. But because I can't prove what causes autism then we lost that. And that was lost at the beginning.
 
00:55:24:33 - 00:55:26:09
Dr. Paul
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00:55:26:09 - 00:55:50:27
Dr. Paul
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00:55:50:33 - 00:55:57:49
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