Show 169 Transcripts

PDF:

Your browser does not support viewing this document. Click here to download the document.

TEXT:

With the Wind with Dr. Paul - Show 169: Pediatric Perspectives - HPV Vaccine Lies with Mary Holland
Total Speaking time:

• Dr. Paul: 72%
• Mary Holland: 49%​

00:00:40:28 - 00:01:05:39
Dr. Paul
VAX facts this book hits bookstores December 10th. You can get a copy now by going to VAX Facts book.com, where you can get a signed author's copy, where you can order an e-book, or you can also preorder the book if you are seeing this message before December 10th. You can also order this book at any bookseller, any bookstore, wherever books are sold, and preorder your copy.
 
00:01:05:53 - 00:01:16:16
Dr. Paul
Get this book for your loved ones, for your family, for yourself, and let's get healthy.
 
00:01:35:06 - 00:01:58:40
Dr. Paul
Good morning kid. Welcome to Pediatric Perspectives, where we are looking at children's health challenges from a different perspective, one that includes critical thinking. One that's not afraid to dive into the honest truth. I'm your host, Doctor Paul, and today, my guest is none other than Mary Holland. And welcome to the show.
 
00:01:58:45 - 00:02:00:08
Mary Holland
Delighted to be here.
 
00:02:00:13 - 00:02:31:00
Dr. Paul
You are the chief executive officer of FD. So you're one of my heroes. You run a huge organization, of which I'm a tiny little part. So thank you. You authored a book in 2018 that I bought immediately and have used extensively on HPV. And I wanted that to be the main topic of this show today because while prior to the Covid jab, in my opinion, as a pediatrician, I saw more harm from the HPV vaccine than from any other vaccine ever.
 
00:02:31:05 - 00:02:56:51
Dr. Paul
And, it's back to school time. And unfortunately, children are being taken to health clinics within the schools and parents are getting notices from schools. You've got to get your kids up to date. I just kick it off. I have to share one story that is real life. From my practice. I had two teenage girls about 1516 years old.
 
00:02:56:51 - 00:03:19:41
Dr. Paul
It was the same year. This happened several years ago, who had been top athletes in their sports and came in with weird neurologic stuff and brain fog, and they both of them got to the point where they barely were able to walk. And after seeing all the specialists in town for this condition, I finally asked the right question because I had their immunization record in front of me.
 
00:03:19:48 - 00:03:46:26
Dr. Paul
I had not administered an HPV vaccine, but I just got curious did you get any other vaccines? Maybe at school and then both. In both cases, the girl said, yeah, we got the HPV at school. And in both cases the moms were like, what? They didn't know. I didn't know this. That's another whole story we might discuss, but maybe kick it off with, how you got into the vaccine issue.
 
00:03:46:27 - 00:03:57:13
Dr. Paul
I mean, you're an attorney. You've taught and educated other attorneys, and then somehow you got involved with this vaccine issue. How did that happen?
 
00:03:57:18 - 00:04:22:52
Mary Holland
Sure. Paul. So I have a young adult son who vaccine injured. So he was injured by the probably the thimerosal containing shots and then MMR. He fell off the cliff, a long time ago. He's substantially recovered, for which I'm, you know, eternally grateful. But that opened up for me. The world of, lies of the pharmaceutical industry and of the government and the medical profession, unfortunately.
 
00:04:22:52 - 00:04:49:23
Mary Holland
And I come from, you know, two, two physicians where my parents. So I certainly come with no ill will towards the medical profession that I think is an incredibly honorable profession, but unfortunately, especially through the pharmaceutical industry, greed and government complicity and medical kind of negligence, honestly, medicine is really lost its way, especially when it comes to vaccines.
 
00:04:49:24 - 00:05:14:16
Mary Holland
So one of the critical pieces that people need to understand is that in 1986, Congress passed a law that said that the pharmaceutical industry is not liable and the medical professionals are not liable if there's any injury from vaccines. They were considered unavoidably unsafe and that the benefits so outweighed the detriments, that they would just have liability free medical products.
 
00:05:14:17 - 00:05:35:40
Mary Holland
Well, that in and of itself was a crazy idea, if you ask me. But, as a result of that is, the founder of Children's Health Defense, Robert F Kennedy Jr. It became a gold rush, right? When a company knows that its product can be mandated to school children, a captive audience, and there's no liability. So there's no litigation costs.
 
00:05:35:40 - 00:06:09:42
Mary Holland
There's no marketing cost. It's a gold rush. And so the vaccine part of pharma went from being a backwater to being a multi billion dollar industry. And now through Covid, we see that that's been sort of at least on the adult population. But I completely agree with you, Doctor Powell, that until the Covid shots, the HPV vaccine, human papillomavirus vaccine, and in the United States, the only one available today is Gardasil, made by Merck that it was the most dangerous, most harmful vaccine on the market.
 
00:06:09:47 - 00:06:31:42
Mary Holland
Different. It's not a messenger RNA shot, but it is, genetically modified. And these are virus like particles. So they're kind of fake viruses that are put in the vaccine. And we can talk more about that if you want. But at any rate, you're right. You know, it's very, very few states in the country or territories that mandate the Gardasil shot.
 
00:06:31:46 - 00:06:55:45
Mary Holland
But doctors have been school ruled on how to manipulate parents and teenagers, as you mentioned, to take these shots. And so a lot of people are getting these shots when they absolutely do not have to take them. There's no territory or state in the country where it is absolutely obligatory to take an HPV vaccine. I want people to understand that.
 
00:06:55:50 - 00:07:02:46
Dr. Paul
Yeah. And yet the schools have this, marketing. They're part of the marketing process.
 
00:07:02:51 - 00:07:03:31
Mary Holland
Absolutely.
 
00:07:03:31 - 00:07:09:49
Dr. Paul
And they send letters that make it sound like you have to get it, even though, as you pointed out, you don't.
 
00:07:09:57 - 00:07:11:15
Mary Holland
You do not, you do.
 
00:07:11:15 - 00:07:12:16
Dr. Paul
Not. Yeah.
 
00:07:12:16 - 00:07:38:57
Mary Holland
This I have to get it. And, yeah, I have two coauthors, Tim Mac Rosenberg and Eileen Oreo. And we literally spent four years researching the HPV vaccines. And, I'm happy to say that, Children's Health Defense has been supporting litigation against Merck for the fraud that is Gardasil. And a court case will occur next year, a big court case.
 
00:07:39:02 - 00:07:57:33
Mary Holland
But in the interim, you know, this product's been on the market for over 15 years and lots of teens. It starts at age nine, but they actually recommend it up to people in their 40s. A lot of people have been injured from the shot, Paul. And I'm not persuaded at all that anybody has benefited from this shot.
 
00:07:57:38 - 00:08:25:45
Dr. Paul
Yeah, I remember going to a, talk about how sneaky the pharmaceutical industry is. So I was invited as an expert to assess the HPV vaccine. This was two years after it was released so many years ago. Yeah. And it was at a prestigious place in Portland, Oregon, where I practiced and right after I got there, there were a bunch of lectures from the, Oregon Health Science University professors.
 
00:08:25:45 - 00:08:48:13
Dr. Paul
And it turned out it was all to figure out how to get more shots in the arms of people. It really wasn't anything about whether or not we should do it. That had already been determined. But one of the lectures was an ears, nose and throat surgeon, and they were trying to pass. That changed it to allow us to inject it into boys as well, because they could get throat cancer from oral sex.
 
00:08:48:18 - 00:08:55:37
Dr. Paul
And he pointed out, you know, this is such a slow moving virus, it takes decades before you're going to see the cancer.
 
00:08:55:37 - 00:09:21:20
Mary Holland
In fact, Paul, we know that rates of cervical cancer among young women have gone up since the advent of the introduction of the HPV vaccine. So that's really telling. But even if you accepted that this vaccine works, which I do not, but even if you accepted that it works, the average age of a woman in the United States who got cervical cancer is a woman in her 50s.
 
00:09:21:33 - 00:09:43:37
Mary Holland
That woman who get cervical cancer is probably somebody who has not had any cervical screening ever or for many, many years. Basically, the drop in cervical cancer in the United States occurred over decades. And it was because there was regular screening for women. When they would go to visit a gynecologist, they would do what was called a pap smear.
 
00:09:43:50 - 00:10:14:05
Mary Holland
And it was highly effective in finding out if there was any irregular or unnatural growth of any kind of infections in the cervix. Basically, now with the HPV vaccines, they've walked away from that screening schedule. And that's what is very, very disheartening. And so that's one of the reasons why the cervical cancer rates have gone up. But in softball, you know, many young girls have developed cervical cancer after getting the Gardasil shot.
 
00:10:14:10 - 00:10:46:43
Mary Holland
The idea that you're going to give a nine year old or a ten year old a product that's going to prevent a pretty rare form of cancer in her 50s, when there's no data at all to show that the HPV vaccines even prevent cancer. The clinical trials, Paul, where with surrogate endpoints, they call them. In other words, they were like, because it takes so long for cancer to develop cervical cancer in the ordinary course, they used abnormal growth as what they were looking for to show that it prevented it.
 
00:10:46:43 - 00:11:09:58
Mary Holland
And we can go into the clinical trials. But the book really outlines the fraud that is throughout the whole process. Making this Gardasil vaccine, which is being pushed around the world on teens, one of the things that does do, Paul, in many women, I don't know about men, actually, but in many girls and women it does cause infertility.
 
00:11:10:03 - 00:11:26:59
Mary Holland
That is one of the serious side effects. And as we're seeing with what's happening in the aftermath of the Covid shots, it does seem as if there's an association between infertility and these most recent very highly promoted vaccines.
 
00:11:27:04 - 00:11:36:29
Dr. Paul
Yeah, yeah. I remember reading the articles on ovarian failure and sure enough, infertility has become a big issue. And so it's.
 
00:11:36:29 - 00:11:37:39
Mary Holland
A very big issue.
 
00:11:37:39 - 00:12:05:03
Dr. Paul
If you're if you're a woman of childbearing age and you've had the HPV vaccine and you can't get pregnant, there's probably an association there if not a direct causation. That's horrendous right in of itself. So for I mean, if I have to assess whether or not I want to take this shot that my pediatrician or my school nurse is saying, this is really important, I would think it'd be important to understand risks and benefits.
 
00:12:05:03 - 00:12:31:03
Dr. Paul
And I think you cover that fairly well in your book. Talk a little bit maybe. I mean, we already know that it's not preventing cancer. So the benefits aren't there. But on the risk side of thing I've found from my practice and my experience doing pediatrics for 35 years, that aluminum is a really bad actor. And there's the aluminum in the Merck products that I don't know what's in it that's proprietary, but it seems to be especially a bad actor.
 
00:12:31:03 - 00:12:40:38
Dr. Paul
So hep, hep B and HPV are the Merck products containing aluminum. What did you find? What are your thoughts about that?
 
00:12:40:43 - 00:13:06:25
Mary Holland
Yeah. So the book is quite comprehensive. And we have a long chapter on aluminum and the adjuvant sort of to make the vaccine. So the Gardasil was for vaccine, you know, virus like particles. Right. So mimicking the viruses of four strains that could cause either lesions or could cause cancer allegedly. And now Gardasil nine is the successor to Gardasil.
 
00:13:06:25 - 00:13:32:51
Mary Holland
And it has nine different virus like particles. When you have that much antigen right. What you're trying to develop the body's antibodies against, it's very hard for the body actually to mount an effective immune response. So the pharmaceutical industry adds adjuvant to boost the immune response to these antigens and illumine them is something to do. That's not a natural product.
 
00:13:32:51 - 00:13:57:28
Mary Holland
It basically tells your body you're, you know, in in in danger zone, you need to mount this extraordinary immune response. And Merck has its own proprietary version of this aluminum adjuvant, which we call RH s. I'm, I'm going to get it wrong if I try to spell this long mouthful, but it's a it's and it's very toxic.
 
00:13:57:33 - 00:14:17:55
Mary Holland
And, the harms, the benefits as we've discussed, are very attenuated. Maybe when you're 50 and I don't believe that you you'd be less likely to get cancer. I don't believe that. But that's that's the marketing pitch. But the harms are so awful, Paul, as you point out, it seems like women who they seem to be particularly susceptible.
 
00:14:17:55 - 00:14:51:13
Mary Holland
But but what are the kinds of harms that causes it causes brain injury. It causes infertility. It causes cervical cancer. It causes, a paralytic disorder, Guillain-Barré. It can cause kind of tremor disorder so that you basically don't just autonomia, you're not in control of your own body. It causes hot postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, where your heart races, where you can't stand up, where you feel like you're going to fall, like your blood pressure just goes up and down like crazy and it causes death.
 
00:14:51:13 - 00:15:15:45
Mary Holland
Paul. And in our book, there's a photo insert in the middle of some of the precious teenagers who are dead because the children and their parents thought, of course we want to prevent cancer in our child. And the child died as a result. So this is just it's just a cruel, incredibly fraudulent product that's on the market.
 
00:15:15:45 - 00:15:38:16
Mary Holland
And we at Children's Health Events have been working for many years, to try to get it off the market to stop this fraud. So, as I mentioned, I'm very happy that a major case is going to trial next year, 2025. These things take time. Multidistrict litigation in North Carolina against Merck of hundreds of cases of teenagers who've been injured.
 
00:15:38:21 - 00:15:50:14
Dr. Paul
I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, we I'm going to have you back on another episode where we talk about legal things because it seems to be so necessary and so difficult to to.
 
00:15:50:19 - 00:16:09:56
Mary Holland
And, well, I'll tell you more in that show, but it's very difficult. But it's not futile, Paul. We only have so many avenues, and we have to sort of educate. We have to advocate. I really advocate for parents. Do your own homework. I can't make decisions for you and your children, but do your homework on the HPV vaccine.
 
00:16:09:56 - 00:16:40:01
Mary Holland
It's not required in any state where there's not an opt out. That should tell you something. They've been trying to get this mandated with no opt outs for 15 years. They haven't succeeded yet. Look into that. Why is that? I mean, this is not a disease that you can pass on by coughing or having a fever. This is a sexually transmissible issue, whether it's, you know, oropharyngeal or it's or it's vaginal or penile, this is not something that is going to be transmitted in a school setting.
 
00:16:40:01 - 00:16:56:10
Mary Holland
So there's zero basis, zero basis for this to be mandated. And don't fall for the line that oh, you must take this. This is what the CDC recommends. Yes, the CDC recommends it is pharma controlled. It is not something that your kid needs.
 
00:16:56:15 - 00:17:11:03
Dr. Paul
Yeah I couldn't agree more. One of the huge concerns I have, and we are seeing epidemic proportions of autoimmunity, and I mean, so much is written about aluminum and autoimmune and you cover it also in your incredible book.
 
00:17:11:13 - 00:17:36:07
Mary Holland
This seems to be the name of the game. Paul. Right. So what we what the scientists who really study this and we interview and, you know, write about many of the scientists who've done deep research is it is causing autoimmunity. The body is responding to these HPV virus like particles as if itself. And so it's inducing an autoimmune disorder, which are hard to pick up.
 
00:17:36:07 - 00:18:05:01
Mary Holland
It often takes a long time for an autoimmune disorder to develop. The causation may not be clear. It's also not easy to clear up autoimmune disorder. Very difficult, very hard. These are chronic. Chronic diseases. And again, what Merck did is they talked about new medical conditions in their clinical trials to kind of, sugarcoat the idea that they were really causing severe medical side effects for these children.
 
00:18:05:15 - 00:18:31:27
Mary Holland
And it's interesting to note, Paul, that the very idea, the very essence of these messenger RNA shots is literally to develop autoimmune disorders, right? It is to manufacture the spike protein within yourself and then to attack it with your own antibodies. I mean, there's something very diabolical about this new model, which we do see with the HPV vaccine, and we also see it with the Covid shots.
 
00:18:31:27 - 00:18:44:32
Mary Holland
And we know that this messenger RNA manufactured these vaccines cheaply and quickly and have your body actually, you know, produce, what is needed. This is the new this is the new paradigm.
 
00:18:44:37 - 00:18:55:21
Dr. Paul
Yeah. So as you mentioned, the HPV is not a messenger RNA vaccine, but it did have all these virus like particles. So it it was creating very similar problems.
 
00:18:55:26 - 00:18:56:33
Mary Holland
Very similar problems. Yeah.
 
00:18:56:33 - 00:19:21:45
Dr. Paul
Absolutely sure to what was to come in the world I live in. And having been a pediatrician for 35 years and seeing just mounting amounts of vaccine injury and harm, it it got to the point of ridiculousness when it comes to how the FDA approves these things and the CDC gets them on the schedule. How does the FDA hide or ignore the real risks?
 
00:19:21:45 - 00:19:25:07
Dr. Paul
And we can take HPV as an example.
 
00:19:25:12 - 00:20:03:17
Mary Holland
Well, it's a great question. So there's a lot of mechanisms whereby pharma, flexes its muscles and exerts control over the FDA. So remember that half of the FDA's budget comes directly from pharma in what they call user fees. So pharma is in control. It's paying for FDA to rubber stamp their product. HPV was the first vaccine that was so-called fast tracked that basically pharma Merck paid extra money so that the FDA would review it more quickly, which they translate to see the side effects.
 
00:20:03:22 - 00:20:22:23
Mary Holland
Right. And then the other thing, as I mentioned, they the FDA allowed Merck to use quote unquote, surrogate endpoints because if you wanted to have a clinical trial of does it cause cancer or not, well, you'd have to have a 40 year clinical trial. So there. Well, that's going to take too long. We'll have it just be cervical dysplasia.
 
00:20:22:28 - 00:20:50:13
Mary Holland
We'll have it be, you know, a sort of precursor of cancer. And there's huge questions about whether that's a legitimate, you know, kind of, proxy for cancer. In point of fact, Paul nine, the over 99% of cervical infections clear on their own. So it just everything about this was pretty fraudulent. But even worse than that is that in the clinical trials themselves.
 
00:20:50:13 - 00:21:12:54
Mary Holland
And we cover this in the book. They had a they had a big report done at the FDA and what it showed, they don't screen women ahead of time before giving them or girls. They don't screen them any way to see. Does this girl already have in her system this? Does she have antibodies to this human papilloma virus?
 
00:21:12:54 - 00:21:36:38
Mary Holland
There are 200 human papillomavirus is the shot is either you know, it used to be for virus like particles. Now it's nine. But if it turns out that girls or women have those infection, do they have the antibodies already? Or even worse, if they actually have an ongoing infection that they may be completely unaware of, that it actually then backfires.
 
00:21:36:38 - 00:22:04:25
Mary Holland
Then there's so much activity at that that in that cervical infection in particular, that it can induce dysplasia and it can induce cervical cancer. And this was obvious from the clinical trials themselves. And it didn't matter. The FDA just forged ahead. And as you point out, they first sort of the camel's nose was to get this, approved and recommended for girls, from like nine.
 
00:22:04:25 - 00:22:29:37
Mary Holland
At that time they were saying 12, but pre pre k pre girls having their periods and we can come back to that. And then they, then they moved quickly to boys. And the rationale for boys was oh you don't want to give your sexual female partners cervical cancer. And yes it's going to protect you from things that might happen in, in the epithelial cells.
 
00:22:29:37 - 00:22:56:46
Mary Holland
So, you know, anus, vagina, vulva, throat. And again, these are rare cancers, Paul. They make it out as if you know, your kid is going to die of one of these cancers. That's so absurd. First of all, these are cancers of ill health. These are cancers of advanced age. And as our book points out, less than 1% of new cancers every year are cervical cancers.
 
00:22:56:51 - 00:23:18:33
Mary Holland
So there was just so this is a marketing issue. And Merck was lauded for their incredible marketing of the HP of the Gardasil vaccine. They called it lightning in a bottle. How do you create a market out of thin air? Well, you do it with fear. You do it with a lot of money and with lies. And that's basically what Gardasil is.
 
00:23:18:47 - 00:23:36:20
Dr. Paul
Yeah. So the other thing they did and and we've come to find out by, reading the book Turtles All the Way Down that they had basically phony placebos. I mean, there was only one tiny little subset of one trial that had saline, and you could probably speak to that because.
 
00:23:36:20 - 00:23:57:16
Mary Holland
It will feel like I will speak to that. Go ahead. Yeah. So one of the tricks, one of the many frauds that pharma does is they don't test vaccines against a sailing placebo. And it's absolutely obvious that the clinical scientific method requires that you have to test it against something that's inert. Just pharma do that for vaccines? No.
 
00:23:57:29 - 00:24:23:00
Mary Holland
Again, vaccines have been highly privileged. They're not treated like other drugs. Come back to that. So typically typically they test a new vaccine against an old vaccine. So when they tested gardasil9 what did they tested against Gardasil. But even with Gardasil they did. Had they told us in the literature that they tested a small group, very small group, against a saline placebo, was it really a failing placebo?
 
00:24:23:04 - 00:24:48:43
Mary Holland
Absolutely not. It was the carrier solution. And we verified that. And the carrier solution still had. And I think I'm trying to remember whether the carrier solution, I believe it also had the aluminum in it, and they didn't take that out. But it's the aluminum. It's formaldehyde, it's sodium borate. It's all kinds of very potent chemicals. So they lied about how they tested it.
 
00:24:48:43 - 00:25:19:03
Mary Holland
Then the pressure from our community had built up by the time that they were testing Gardasil9. So primarily they tested it against people getting Gardasil, but their so-called placebo group for Gardasil nine. Paul, those were girls who had to have already had three doses of guards. So, I mean, there was never any placebo trials for Gardasil. And people again need to understand these are honestly these are criminal corporations.
 
00:25:19:03 - 00:25:45:43
Mary Holland
I don't know if you're aware, Paul, but a decision just came down yesterday from the Third Circuit Court of Appeals about Merck's frauds related to the measles, mumps, rubella vaccine, False Claims Act case that's been in litigation for 14 years was dismissed yesterday by the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, saying, oh, well, if the FDA signed up for buying this fraudulent product, well, then it's not really fraud and it's not material.
 
00:25:45:43 - 00:26:17:09
Mary Holland
And no reasonable jury could decide that this is a serious fraud. And this is after tens of thousands of children have been injured by this vaccine. And when they use rabbit's blood to try to pass the potency test, it's just I think people need to and probably people watching get this, Paul. But people need to understand this is a criminal rogue industry that has just literally gone towards making money from injuring and killing people.
 
00:26:17:13 - 00:26:36:45
Dr. Paul
Yeah. Well, to wrap up this session then, I mean, here we've got a vaccine that should have never been licensed. Then came Covid, which is a bigger disaster, which we won't go into because we need a full session for that one. But you know, what does this tell us about the CDC and the FDA process? We've touched on it.
 
00:26:36:45 - 00:26:41:57
Dr. Paul
And what about the rest of the vaccines on the childhood schedule? What are your thoughts about that?
 
00:26:42:02 - 00:27:05:28
Mary Holland
Well, I think it tells us about the FDA and the CDC and the National Institutes of Health, and they are all totally capture our compromised institutions, as, again, Bobby Kennedy has called them. You know, they're sock puppets for industry, industry. It controls those institutions from top to bottom. So forget about the idea that there's some regulator there, or there's some intermediary that's looking out for your benefit.
 
00:27:05:28 - 00:27:28:00
Mary Holland
They're not. Those people walk with a one year gap right out of CDC, FDA, NIH into pharmaceutical jobs where they make millions of dollars. They are not looking out for us. So the childhood schedule, I was very privileged to work with anonymous authors, in a book that you mentioned, Turtles All the Way Down Vaccine Science and Myth.
 
00:27:28:05 - 00:27:53:01
Mary Holland
And what is very clear from that book is there's not a single vaccine on the childhood schedule that has truly been safety tested in any rational way. None of them have been tested against true placebos. None of them have been tested in a way that an elementary notion would require for safety testing. There's some efficacy for some vaccines, Paul.
 
00:27:53:03 - 00:28:09:10
Mary Holland
You know, overall, the measles vaccine has prevented measles at a pretty high cost. Some of them are effective. That's not what the book is about. The book is about is there safety and how do they demonstrate safety? And the safety is just not there.
 
00:28:09:15 - 00:28:41:18
Dr. Paul
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. So what we're left with is still most of the population here in the US and worldwide is under the illusion that vaccines are safe and effective and that the risks are minuscule and that the benefits are significant, and therefore we should do it for the greater good. I mean, all these concepts that fall apart when you realize that they are dangerous products from fraudulent companies that are doing tobacco science.
 
00:28:41:22 - 00:28:55:36
Dr. Paul
I mean, with with the vaccines, the trick that once they you once you delve in and you and I have, if the placebo group is really everything dangerous in the vaccine, but the antigen, the antigen is not the problem in most cases, it's everything else.
 
00:28:55:41 - 00:28:57:48
Mary Holland
So, yeah, it's both.
 
00:28:57:52 - 00:29:09:08
Dr. Paul
Yeah. So so for almost every single trial and I started looking at this and it holds up. You have the same number of horrible adverse events in the placebo as the trial group. So therefore I.
 
00:29:09:09 - 00:29:11:52
Mary Holland
Think therefore it's safe. Right. It's the same.
 
00:29:11:57 - 00:29:13:25
Dr. Paul
It's insane.
 
00:29:13:30 - 00:29:16:34
Mary Holland
It's totally insane. It's totally insane.
 
00:29:16:34 - 00:29:33:49
Dr. Paul
Yeah. I mean parents, you need to understand safe could be 1 in 10 kids is significantly harmed. And they call it safe because it was the same. That amount of harm in both sides who would sign up and walk their child in, would get a 1 in 10 chance of serious medical injury, if not death.
 
00:29:33:54 - 00:29:40:15
Mary Holland
Nobody in their right mind who is properly informed, they make a mockery of informed consent.
 
00:29:40:19 - 00:30:08:13
Dr. Paul
Yeah, they really do. I just read an article in Jama this week talking about the ethics of informed consent, and that one of their points was that, in the case where the medical procedure or a vaccine in this case is known to be of such great benefit, it would not make sense to, to, deprive the population from that product.
 
00:30:08:24 - 00:30:12:31
Dr. Paul
It's like, wow, what a twist on all of this. You know, it's.
 
00:30:12:36 - 00:30:37:47
Mary Holland
The only good news here is that I do believe that there were so many injuries and deaths from the Covid shot that worldwide people are now much, much more skeptical of vaccines in general and of the childhood schedule. So I am encouraged that there are millions of people who are becoming aware that it's not what pharma has told them.
 
00:30:37:52 - 00:30:58:18
Dr. Paul
Yeah, or that I saw an interesting statistic that the, rate of fully vaccinated two year olds had dropped well below 90%. So, we're getting there, but. Oh, slowly. Well, we have to wrap it up for this episode. I want to thank you, Mary, so much for all your work in this area, everything you're doing to help our world.
 
00:30:58:32 - 00:31:00:46
Dr. Paul
And I can't wait to interview you again.
 
00:31:00:51 - 00:31:02:21
Mary Holland
Thank you so much. My pleasure.
 
00:31:02:22 - 00:31:12:44
Dr. Paul
Thanks, folks for watching. You can also find me at Doctors and science.com and Kids First forever.com, and I look forward to seeing you next week.
 
00:31:12:49 - 00:31:32:54
CHDTV Announcer
This and all TV programing is made possible by generous support from viewers like you. Please consider making a contribution today to keep our programing going strong. Thank you to.
 
00:31:38:13 - 00:32:04:07
Dr. Paul
I look forward to running together with the wind at our backs, revealing the science that gives clarity in our world that's full of propaganda and misinformation. Visit our website Doctors in Science Rt.com. Sign up, donate if you can. Your support makes a difference. And let's make this the weekly show the world has been waiting for. Thanks for watching.
 
00:32:04:13 - 00:32:11:29
Dr. Paul
I'm Dr. Paul.