With the Wind with Dr. Paul — Podcast 214: Pediatric Perspectives: Game Changer Tests for Kids with Autism with Lindsey Wells, N.D.

What's really driving the eczema and seizures showing up in kids today — and can real food, sunlight, and root-cause thinking change the picture?

In this episode of Pediatric Perspectives, I'm joined again by Lindsey Wells, N.D., a naturopathic physician in Connecticut who works with children on the autism spectrum and with PANS/PANDAS. She is also the author of Super Sam and the Battle Against PANS/PANDAS. I wanted parents to hear where autism testing and treatment can start, including for families who can't afford to do everything at once.

In this episode, we cover:

• Why autism awareness and autism acceptance are not the same thing
• Simple changes at home: water, food, fragrances, and screens
• The areas Dr. Wells looks at in a full workup
• Lower-cost places to start when full testing isn't possible
• The three tests she named when I asked about game changers
• What to look at when a child seems stuck, and why there is hope at any age

Show Notes

With the Wind with Dr. Paul – Show 214: Pediatric Perspectives: Game Changer Tests for Kids with Autism with Lindsey Wells, N.D.

Host: Dr. Paul Thomas

Guest: Lindsey Wells, N.D.

Series: Pediatric Perspectives

Length: Approximately 25 minutes

Summary

In this episode of With the Wind with Dr. Paul, Dr. Paul Thomas is joined again by Lindsey Wells, N.D., a naturopathic physician in Connecticut and author of the children's book Super Sam and the Battle Against PANS/PANDAS, for a discussion on autism and other neurodevelopmental conditions in children.

Dr. Paul explains why he sees a difference between autism awareness and autism acceptance. Dr. Wells covers simple changes families can make at home, what she looks at in a full workup, and where to start when full testing costs too much. When Dr. Paul asks which tests have been game changers, she names three. She also speaks to families who feel stuck, talks about spelling to communicate and the causes she sees, and closes with hope for children at any age. The focus remains educational and informational, emphasizing context, clinical judgment, and informed decision-making, particularly as it relates to children and families.

Key Points

• 00:00 — Dr. Paul opens with Autism Acceptance Month and why he draws a line between awareness and acceptance
• 01:00 — Welcome back to Lindsey Wells, N.D., and her book Super Sam and the Battle Against PANS/PANDAS
• 02:00 — Dr. Wells explains why she sees autism as a sign of something going on underneath
• 04:00 — Where parents can start at home: water filters, diet, fragrances, and reducing electronics and EMFs
• 06:00 — Dr. Paul recalls the DAN! (Defeat Autism Now) conferences of the early 2000s
• 07:00 — Dr. Wells's workup framework: gut microbiome, mitochondria, immune system and infections, and metabolic and detox pathways
• 09:00 — The cost of full testing, and lower-cost starting points through insurance labs, daily bowel movements, exercise, sleep, and time outside in the morning
• 13:00 — Game-changer testing: the organic acid test, vector-borne disease screening, folate receptor autoantibodies, and folinic acid trials
• 15:00 — Therapeutic trials, and Dr. Paul's experience with the gluten-free, dairy-free diet
• 16:00 — When families feel stuck: hidden infections, mold exposure, and helminth therapy
• 18:00 — Independence for severely affected children, and spelling to communicate
• 21:00 — Dr. Wells's view of causes as multifactorial
• 22:00 — A message of hope at any age, and the Well-Minded Mommas Club
• 24:00 — How to reach Dr. Wells, and closing

Quote

"And I also wanna close out that there is hope. There is always hope. It does not matter your child's age."

 — Lindsey Wells, N.D.

Resources

• Dr. Lindsey Wells, ND
• Super Sam and the Battle Against PANS/PANDAS — Lindsey Wells, N.D.
• Vax Facts — Dr. Paul Thomas and DeeDee Hoover — informed consent for every vaccine on the childhood schedule
• Kids First 4Ever
• Doctors and Science

Disclaimer

The information provided in this content is for informational and educational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. It is not a substitute for consultation with a qualified healthcare professional. Always seek the advice of your physician or other licensed healthcare provider before making any medical decisions, including starting any new diet, supplement regimen, exercise program, or wellness protocol. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay seeking treatment because of something you have read here. The use of this information is at your own risk. This content does not establish a doctor-patient relationship. Statements regarding dietary supplements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you experience any adverse reactions or medical concerns, discontinue use immediately and consult a medical professional.

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The information provided in this content is for informational and educational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. It is not a substitute for consultation with a qualified healthcare professional. Always seek the advice of your physician or other licensed healthcare provider before making any medical decisions, including starting any new diet, supplement regimen, exercise program, or wellness protocol. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay seeking treatment because of something you have read here. The use of this information is at your own risk. This content does not establish a doctor-patient relationship. Statements regarding dietary supplements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you experience any adverse reactions or medical concerns, discontinue use immediately and consult a medical professional.

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