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With the Wind with Dr. Paul – Show180: Pediatric Perspectives: Holistically Treating Viruses with David Brownstein M.D
Time Speakers Spoke

• Dr. Paul: 18.91%
• David Brownstein M.D: 80.13%

 
 
00:00:40:28 - 00:01:05:39
Dr. Paul
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00:01:05:53 - 00:01:16:16
Dr. Paul
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00:01:35:20 - 00:01:59:27
Dr. Paul
Good morning kid. Welcome to Pediatric Perspectives, where we are looking at children's health challenges from a different perspective. One that includes critical thinking. One is not afraid to give you the honest truth. I'm your host, Doctor Paul. My guest today is Doctor David Brownstein, and I am so thrilled to have this opportunity to chat with you, David. Welcome to the show.
 
00:01:59:32 - 00:02:01:41
David Brownstein M.D
Thanks for having me, doctor Paul.
 
00:02:01:45 - 00:02:25:20
Dr. Paul
You are a prolific author. You've written so many books. If you want to learn about natural, holistic health, you've written books on natural therapies, on arthritis, thyroid disorders, salt, dairy free diets, gluten free diets, how to eat healthy natural hormones, the soy deception, and more. I don't know how you did it. Maybe we can start off with those topics.
 
00:02:25:20 - 00:02:39:09
Dr. Paul
And your approach to medicine is not exactly how I was taught in medical school, and probably not how you were taught in medical school. What happened that you were able to embrace an alternative, natural, holistic approach?
 
00:02:39:14 - 00:03:09:03
David Brownstein M.D
Yeah, I didn't start off that way. I started off. You know, I grew up in a conventional household. We didn't take any vitamins. We didn't eat, we didn't pay attention to the food we ate. My favorite meal growing up was a Quarter Pounder without cheese, a large fry, and a large Coke. And, you know, I also had a severe case of asthma that landed me in the hospital many times, and many ER visits, many doctor visits, many allergy visits.
 
00:03:09:08 - 00:03:33:48
David Brownstein M.D
So I spent a lot of time at health care facilities, and I was always fascinated with science and medicine, and I wanted to be a doctor since I was little and I attribute that to being to going to doctors a lot. And, so when I, when I, went to college, I went with one plan. A plan there was no plan B plan was to get into med school.
 
00:03:33:53 - 00:03:53:39
David Brownstein M.D
I went to the national champion University of Michigan Wolverines. I got about four weeks left of speech saying this before we're dethroned. And, you know, I geared my training towards getting into med school, got into med school, went to med school at Wayne State in Detroit, and I wanted to be a family doctor modeled after my family doctor.
 
00:03:53:39 - 00:04:19:18
David Brownstein M.D
And I had no holistic leanings. I bought and I bought into everything I was taught, and I followed a straight line. And then I went to residency and did a family practice residency. The only thing I deviated in, the one thing I deviated in, in residency when the chickenpox vaccine came out, I was a resident, and I remember saying to my advisor, why are we giving this vaccine when chicken pox is a benign illness?
 
00:04:19:18 - 00:04:33:29
David Brownstein M.D
And then there's lifelong immunity. And I had this discussion with her and I said, you know, moms protect their kids if they've had chicken pox. How do we know this vaccine is going to protect the moms as well as the, virus? And the advisor said, I don't know. And I said, well, why would we be giving this?
 
00:04:33:33 - 00:04:56:02
David Brownstein M.D
And she said, well, parents won't have to stay home from work. I remember that. That was the excuse given then that that's why we should give the chicken pox free. And so I said to her, I'm not going to do that one. I don't I don't think that one's reasonable to. I know moms are going to be protecting their kids, you know, from chicken pox the same way they would when they got the the wild virus or the vaccine.
 
00:04:56:07 - 00:05:21:07
David Brownstein M.D
So that was the only thing I deviated in. Otherwise, I was straight as an arrow and I began practicing conventional medicine as I was taught. I was six months into it and I started to get anxiety from an unknown source. And I lost sleep for three nights in a row, and I remember getting up for work after that three nights in a row and saying to Allison, as we're both getting ready to go to work, I don't want to be a doctor anymore.
 
00:05:21:12 - 00:05:45:45
David Brownstein M.D
When she was pregnant with my first daughter and it was a month or two from having this baby, we had $100,000 in student loans. She met me when we were 18 years old at the national champion University of Michigan Wolverines. And, that's all I talked about was being a doctor. And there was no plan B, there was nothing else in the cards for me, and I wanted to be a family doctor.
 
00:05:45:50 - 00:06:03:21
David Brownstein M.D
She said, what's wrong? And I said, I'm not helping people, I'm just prescribing all these drugs. And to me, and I said, unless they had an infection, I was really not treating an underlying cause of the illness. That was just treating the symptoms of the illness. And I'm not helping people. And I said, I can't do this for the next three decades.
 
00:06:03:26 - 00:06:22:28
David Brownstein M.D
Right now I'm at the three decade mark, really. And, she said, well, why don't you do another residency? And I said, no, that. And one of those was enough, and I was floundering. And I went to work that day, and I saw a patient, the patients, it was it was a guy and his wife drove to work with my wife.
 
00:06:22:33 - 00:06:45:28
David Brownstein M.D
So we've done things socially with him. He was bothering me to meet his chiropractor at that point in my career, never referred to a chiropractor. I never went to a chiropractor. I'll tell people don't go because they were dangerous, even though you never know what they did, or never experienced them or didn't know anything about the philosophy and I set up a dinner meeting with the chiropractor for the following week, and I went and met him, and his name was actor Robert Radtke.
 
00:06:45:42 - 00:07:10:14
David Brownstein M.D
And he starts talking about functional biochemistry. And I was floored at this meeting. I knew biochemistry, I got biochemistry at Michigan and then pathways. I took biochemistry in med school. I got the same again with the same class, and I thought I was smart in biochemistry. I thought it was easy, and I couldn't apply it to the patients in front of me because I just didn't know how to do that.
 
00:07:10:18 - 00:07:30:50
David Brownstein M.D
Doctor Radtke, a chiropractor who I never met before, was doing that, and he was talking to me about using, you know, cofactors and enzymes and things like that to help his patients and tell me stories about them. Either he was lying or there were other therapies I didn't know about. He got me a book at that meeting, healing with Nutrition by Jonathan Wright, who was available as a doctor.
 
00:07:30:53 - 00:07:36:17
David Brownstein M.D
And I came home from dinner. I was all excited and.
 
00:07:36:28 - 00:07:37:40
Dr. Paul
Medicine got exciting.
 
00:07:37:40 - 00:07:57:59
David Brownstein M.D
Right? I read that book too late at night, called my dad the next morning before going to work. I slept about two hours. I read till late at night. That time I wasn't anxious. I was excited, and I called my dad up, said, can you come in the office and do a couple of blood tests? My dad had a 20 year history of heart disease with heart attacks at 40 and 42.
 
00:07:58:04 - 00:08:22:08
David Brownstein M.D
Bypass surgeries and angioplasty over the next 20 years was on 12 medications for cholesterol, diabetes, and heart disease. He looked awful. He was. We were waiting for the phone call that he died at any moment. And, you know, seven days later, I get his blood. I checked two blood tests. And from what I read in the book and talked to Doctor Radke, I checked his testosterone levels and his fibroid levels.
 
00:08:22:13 - 00:08:51:14
David Brownstein M.D
And his testosterone levels came back seven days later, below detectable limits. No one had ever checked that. I did a whole farai panel in med school. I was taught to just do a TSH level. Yeah, now I do a whole thyroid panel. Much more. So much more comprehensive. I did that panel and its thyroid levels were in the reference range, but in the lower part of the reference range, I put him on two things seven days later, natural testosterone, a natural thyroid hormone, within seven days of 20 year history of angina melted away, never came back.
 
00:08:51:24 - 00:09:14:25
David Brownstein M.D
He was using nitro. Was nitroglycerin pills like there were candies within 30 days. His cholesterol stuff in the three hundreds fell below 200. Without changing any of his bad dietary habits, he looked better, reacted battery. His face became pink instead of blue. And, you know, you look like he was going to die. Yeah. And, once I saw the changes in my dad, you know, I knew it.
 
00:09:14:25 - 00:09:31:10
David Brownstein M.D
I did about 80 in medicine. I went to the partners of the practice who I was going to be a partner, and I said, I need to leave. And they said, why? What's wrong? And I said, I want to go to holistic medicine. And what's that? And I said, I don't really know why, but I've got to go figure it out.
 
00:09:31:15 - 00:09:42:12
David Brownstein M.D
And they said, do it here because I like them. They liked me. And I said, no, I need an office where everyone's everyone's on the same page. And so I left and you know.
 
00:09:42:17 - 00:09:43:50
Dr. Paul
You have a had impact since you.
 
00:09:44:02 - 00:10:02:15
David Brownstein M.D
Haven't looked back. It was the best thing I ever did. And, you know, here I am, 17 books later, a newsletter, you know, a bunch of articles and, you know, happily working in a holistic practice now, happily working with that daughter who was born then and, you know, her sister, my two girls are working with me, and, you know, we're having fun.
 
00:10:02:20 - 00:10:36:15
Dr. Paul
That is beautiful. I want to take this time, this segment to focus on viruses. You wrote a book, a holistic approach to viruses, and we are entering the virus season. I'm seeing the CDC in our local public health departments are pushing Covid shots, flu shots, RSV shots now. And I think I know with that background you just shared and I've read your book, let's give our audience a different way to look at viruses so they don't have to be fearful of the winter season here.
 
00:10:36:15 - 00:10:38:22
Dr. Paul
That's upon us.
 
00:10:38:27 - 00:11:01:10
David Brownstein M.D
Well, you know, you brought up at the beginning, you know, you've written all these books, you know, how do you have time to do that, either writing for one of two reasons. Either I'm excited and passionate about something or I'm irritated. Probably passionate too, but I'm irritated, excited, or irritated. So the virus book came out here, and here's a virus book that came out from, Covid.
 
00:11:01:15 - 00:11:29:56
David Brownstein M.D
And when Covid hit in 2020, you know, we all lived through it. I remember it doesn't seem like four and a half years ago, but in a sense it seems like six months ago. In another sense, it seems like 20 years ago. But I remember those feelings, you know, watching those reports come out of China and then, you know, the, the Italy and, the morgue trucks that were taking the bodies away.
 
00:11:29:56 - 00:12:02:22
David Brownstein M.D
And then you know, it comes to the US in, California and Seattle, I think were the first areas, first few patients. And then it blew up in, in four states. The huge rise and and E.R. visits and ICUs and, and number of people being diagnosed with acute covet. And we were one of them and I, I, I, I absolutely remember at the beginning of March when, it was of, I believe the first Thursday or second Thursday in March was the end of our workweek.
 
00:12:02:27 - 00:12:19:42
David Brownstein M.D
The governor of the state of Michigan was talking about closing the state down the following week. So my office manager said to me, near the end of that workday, you got to talk to the staff. And I said, Wayne, she goes, well, no one's going to come to work next week. Everyone's afraid. Like afraid of this. And she goes, yeah, she goes, you got to talk to him.
 
00:12:19:42 - 00:12:38:20
David Brownstein M.D
So we had a meeting at the end of the day, room was tense, could cut it with a knife. And I said, what's going on? You know what's up? And they're like, why don't we closing? Like closing? Why would we close? We don't want to die. I said, no, we're not going to die. This is a virus and this is a coronavirus.
 
00:12:38:25 - 00:13:05:44
David Brownstein M.D
We know how to treat coronaviruses one third of coronaviruses every year, one third of the flu season. It's coronaviruses every year. Maybe we haven't seen this particular strain of coronavirus, but I said I'm confident we're a nimble enough practice to be able to figure this out. And we have a viral protocol we've been using during every flu season for 25 years, during every flu season, for 25 years, the CDC comes up with this numbers 15,000 to 100,000.
 
00:13:05:48 - 00:13:31:08
David Brownstein M.D
Americans are are hospitalized and, you know, from the flu. And so therefore everybody needs to take a flu shot. Well, let's just take an average and say it's 40,000 a year or hospitalized from the flu. Well, between my partners and I, we have about 100 years of clinical experience. We've been doing our our viral protocol, which is using vitamins and minerals only.
 
00:13:31:13 - 00:13:41:25
David Brownstein M.D
And, we haven't had patients hospitalized for the flu. None of us can recall, and none of us certainly can recall anyone dying from the flu. You know, a year's.
 
00:13:41:25 - 00:13:44:15
Dr. Paul
Worth of practice. That is incredible.
 
00:13:44:20 - 00:13:47:42
David Brownstein M.D
Times 30 years of times, 30 years of practice still know.
 
00:13:47:47 - 00:13:55:42
Dr. Paul
Right? I hope you'll share the the structure of what you actually do, because I think people are going to watch it.
 
00:13:55:47 - 00:14:16:34
David Brownstein M.D
When I flipped over into holistic medicine 30 years ago, way back after treating my dad, you know, every patient got a nutritional and hormonal evaluation. They still do today. Every patient does. So flu season comes around. My first flu season as a holistic doctor. And you know, back then there was nothing there was no, Tamiflu, which doesn't work anyways and should be pulled from the market.
 
00:14:16:38 - 00:14:38:53
David Brownstein M.D
It's dangerous. But we didn't any of that. So, flu season came around and, you know, we started we started researching and looking for what our anti viral things and what are things that build up the immune system because, you know, ultimately when you get sick with a virus or bacteria or parasite or fungi, it's the immune system that has to come together to take care of it.
 
00:14:38:57 - 00:15:00:27
David Brownstein M.D
You can take an antibiotic to lower the bacterial level if it's a bacterial infection, but ultimately it's immune system that has to finally deal with it. So through it, through a little bit of trial and error, we come up with a viral protocol of using high dose vitamin A, C, D and iodine orally, and the vitamin A dose was 100,000 units a day for four days.
 
00:15:00:32 - 00:15:23:31
David Brownstein M.D
Vitamin D dose was 50,000 units of D3 a day for four days, vitamin C was 1000mg an hour to about all tolerance or while awake CD and I I have a big practice. We use a lot of iodine in our practice. If my patients weren't on 18 and they got sick with a viral illness or bacterial illness, they were given 25mg of iodine.
 
00:15:23:36 - 00:15:42:05
David Brownstein M.D
If they were already taking 25 or whatever dose they were taking. I just having double it for four days. And most patients did great with it. Their system kicked right up. These protocols that only help the immune system. They help lower the viral or bacterial load or whatever the infectious agent is. And more importantly, they allow the immune system to do its job.
 
00:15:42:05 - 00:16:10:23
David Brownstein M.D
It was trained to do. If people needed a little bit more work or they got lung involvement, such as pneumonia or bronchitis or severe coughing, we had a nebulizer dilute solution of hydrogen peroxide at nighttime. And that, by the way, that was the best treatment we did during Covid. Was that nebulizer iodine and bright side. And if they needed a little bit more, we'd have them come in the office and do, IVs or vitamin C and hydrogen peroxide.
 
00:16:10:27 - 00:16:28:26
David Brownstein M.D
And in during Covid we did that outside, in the, you know, in Michigan in the wintertime. And that way it was that was a treat. But, you know, we had our numbers were way, you know, we had very few people go to the hospital. We had 1 or 2 patients die during the whole Covid crisis.
 
00:16:28:26 - 00:16:36:30
David Brownstein M.D
And these people all had secondary problems that, you know, they any illness probably would have kicked them over the edge.
 
00:16:36:35 - 00:16:39:20
Dr. Paul
You have you take care of children as well, I imagine.
 
00:16:39:24 - 00:16:48:25
David Brownstein M.D
Yeah. And we didn't we had children. I didn't peroxide, we have babies. You know, the mothers wave it in front of their face and they can breathe it.
 
00:16:48:30 - 00:16:52:33
Dr. Paul
What were your outcomes for children with regards to Covid and first.
 
00:16:52:33 - 00:17:08:31
David Brownstein M.D
Off, kids didn't seem to get as affected by it. And, you know, they, they, they they got they they they they were all through Covid like they were all through everything else really. But they did fine. And, all the best. Look, our patients with all these severe comorbidities did really well. And
 
00:17:08:36 - 00:17:12:03
Dr. Paul
Instead of 80% mortality, you've got 1% or less.
 
00:17:12:03 - 00:17:28:28
David Brownstein M.D
It was less. It was way less than real. Well, he I think we had two patients die during the whole time period. And, it was, it was a it was a good, you know, when I look back on Covid, when I look at it now, it was, it was the the best time of medicine in the worst time in medicine.
 
00:17:28:33 - 00:17:47:28
David Brownstein M.D
The, the worst time in medicine was at stress, you know, especially at the beginning, you know, I was seeing those refrigerated trucks outside, in New York and New York City waiting to get all the bodies. You know, I was seeing those reports of the, a mortality rate, you know, enormous numbers. You know, we're going to die.
 
00:17:47:39 - 00:18:16:30
David Brownstein M.D
Predicting over the first modeling was, I think 1,000,005 Americans are going to be dead by the end of 2020 from this. And, you know, I, I remember the first two weeks, I, I don't think I slept much. I was just wondering, you know, is this therapy going to work? And then it was really interesting as people were doing it, and particularly with the nebulizer thing with Covid, with Covid, there was a little when you when you ask, when you listen to their lungs, it had it, it had a different breast sound than I've heard before.
 
00:18:16:35 - 00:18:41:39
David Brownstein M.D
You can hear air moving, but it wasn't getting into the lungs. It was it was an odd sound. And their pulse axis would drop significantly. Beginning of Covid for a lot of people when they would nebulizer with a second dose of nebulizer. What we were doing, we heard, was my lungs opened up, I could breathe again. My pulse ox came up and you know that it was it was there was some excitement, you know, especially when we noticed it was working.
 
00:18:41:39 - 00:18:52:19
David Brownstein M.D
And I started reporting on it and, you know, and, you know, and that's how that became that's how this book came out, you know, it's a, a well, there were there was another thing that came out, you know.
 
00:18:52:24 - 00:18:53:00
Dr. Paul
Yeah.
 
00:18:53:05 - 00:19:10:09
David Brownstein M.D
I was reporting on it, I was, I was, I was posting, I was doing, blog posts and I would videotape patients and I would just be the I'd be the interviewer and say, hey, tell me what happened with Covid. I would just guide them along. They tell their story. And I did story after story, and I titled it there's Still Hope out there.
 
00:19:10:09 - 00:19:20:28
David Brownstein M.D
One, two, three, four. I think I got up to 20. And then, you know, I got a letter from one day, I got a letter from the FTC saying, you know.
 
00:19:20:28 - 00:19:22:41
Dr. Paul
Hey, what did they do about that.
 
00:19:22:45 - 00:19:41:07
David Brownstein M.D
Six page letter single space from the FTC saying, you know, take everything that within 48 hours, or you'll hear from the Justice Department. And the next day, I got a call from the board of medicine saying, we've had I don't remember now, like five complaints. You know, and, you know, the investigation has now been started on your own.
 
00:19:41:07 - 00:19:44:00
Dr. Paul
Your patients are getting well. This is not okay.
 
00:19:44:05 - 00:20:05:38
David Brownstein M.D
And we had no problems with our patients. And, the, but whatever, you know, we went through that. So. So when the reason, the main reason I wrote this was, in the FTC complaint, they said there's no what they say. I used to have bad memories. And the board, the board parroted the same word, the same verbiage.
 
00:20:05:38 - 00:20:25:50
David Brownstein M.D
So there's no research supporting what you say is true. And, and I posted those letters on my website and before I took my videos down, and then I had a couple of friends call me and say, hey, they say there's no studies. You got all these patients publish a study. And I said I was keeping track of Covid patients from the beginning of what we did.
 
00:20:25:54 - 00:20:42:25
David Brownstein M.D
So so I published a study, a peer reviewed study, which is in that book. And you know, in the middle of all this and stress, you know, I wrote that book because I, I was very passionate about what we were doing. And then I got really irritated over those letters and the complaints, you know, from the board. And,
 
00:20:42:30 - 00:20:47:02
Dr. Paul
And did you survive the board thing because, many of us lost our licenses.
 
00:20:47:07 - 00:20:52:24
David Brownstein M.D
You know, it was interesting with the board thing. I did survive in that, losing my license.
 
00:20:52:24 - 00:20:53:12
Dr. Paul
Congratulations.
 
00:20:53:12 - 00:21:15:41
David Brownstein M.D
And, you know, they came in my office unannounced. The investigation had already started. And on a Tuesday, which is our worst day. It's our longest day. We see the most patients. And Tuesday was about 10:00. On Tuesday, I got a knock on my door and my office manager was like, you got to come out here. I'm like, what's wrong?
 
00:21:15:55 - 00:21:32:56
David Brownstein M.D
There's two people holding badges out in the in the lobby saying they're from the Board of Medicine. They're demanding to come in and see the practice right now. Right. Well, I we started our meetings. You don't let them in. They have to make an appointment. Right. Well, they're demanding to come in. And she's got some sheet of paper that says, here's the statute.
 
00:21:32:56 - 00:21:51:34
David Brownstein M.D
We can come in anytime we want. You know, I sent that to my wife, who's a lawyer, and she said, you got, you know, got to let them in. And, they came in and they were, you know, it was very unbelievable. And we, we were giving people ideas outside at that time. We sent them away because they said, you have to stop doing IVs.
 
00:21:51:39 - 00:22:09:47
David Brownstein M.D
So we had sick people in the parking lot. We sent them away, said, we can't do you. We had a couple tripping. We let them finish. A couple more came and we just said, you have to go. So, I got I'm seeing patients, I'm trying to concentrate and this is going on out. And, you know, I tell the nurses, don't lie.
 
00:22:09:51 - 00:22:31:06
David Brownstein M.D
Tell the truth. Answer yes or no. We have nothing to hide. We're not doing anything wrong here. And, I was going to see this guy. His name was Clinton Mitchell. Later that day, he happened to be Peter McCullough's attorney at that time, and he was in Detroit. I came out of a patient room and I thought about it, and I said, oh, I got to call Clinton.
 
00:22:31:06 - 00:22:44:00
David Brownstein M.D
I can't see him at the end of the day because, you know, this is all going on. So I call him up and he goes, well, what do they want? I'm like, I don't know what they want. And he I said, where are they from? And the board. And I said, they're from the DEA of the state of Michigan.
 
00:22:44:12 - 00:23:01:35
David Brownstein M.D
You'll see you guys do narcotics and things like that. I'm like, no, we have no narcotics, nothing, nothing like that in our office. So he I put him on speaker phone. He started talking to them. And, you know, they he started raising his voice a little bit and he, they backed off that we couldn't do IVs. And we called the patients back.
 
00:23:01:40 - 00:23:14:33
David Brownstein M.D
And, you know, an investigation started and they were they were kind of up in arms over the peroxide solution at that time. And, you know, we, we we weathered the storm and, you know, we can,
 
00:23:14:38 - 00:23:42:42
Dr. Paul
Congratulations on that. Tell me a little bit. I think people are feeling pressured to get these vaccines. So we're talking about the winter flu, Covid, RSV season that's starting already. You talk very clearly in your book in a way that's easy to understand about the innate immune system. I wonder if you could review you know, our immune system has its inborn natural, what we call the innate immune system.
 
00:23:42:42 - 00:24:03:41
Dr. Paul
And then there's the adaptive antibody side that the vaccines are targeting. And as quickly as you can, maybe for, for a lay person, help them understand what's the difference and why that is so important in terms of do we really need a vaccine or not?
 
00:24:03:46 - 00:24:25:51
David Brownstein M.D
Well, another book you can read, which is pretty darn good, is this one. And, I'm in the middle of this one right now. And this is a pretty fabulous book too, which talks about similar which talks about and that's the authors on the left side of the screen right now. It's funny with vaccination for Covid, you know, we were told, in 2020 that there's nothing you can do.
 
00:24:25:56 - 00:24:46:47
David Brownstein M.D
Stay at home if you're sick with Covid, you can't breathe and then go to the emergency room and wait for the vaccine. Basically, that's what the powers that be told us, and they shut us down, separated us, closed our churches, closed our synagogues to basically wait for the vaccine. So I would like to ask, you know, what illness, as physicians do, we tell patients just stay at home, too.
 
00:24:46:47 - 00:25:06:03
David Brownstein M.D
You can't breathe or you're bleeding out fast enough and then go to the you know, we trained, we were taught to deal with things at an earlier stage, which is easier to treat any illness. We have two major immune systems in a body. We have the innate immune system and the adaptive immune system. The innate immune system exists in our in our nose, in our throats.
 
00:25:06:05 - 00:25:35:27
David Brownstein M.D
And, you know, the mucosal linings. And when we get hit with flu or virus or Covid through breathing it in, or you get on your hands and you eat something and you get it in your mouth, and you've got an innate immune system that should go into gear, you know, and things like immunoglobulin A and other things are brought forward to try and identify and get rid of this before it gets deep into the body.
 
00:25:35:32 - 00:25:59:22
David Brownstein M.D
And then if it if you can hear me right now, I'm getting over my holistic cold that my patients have to say the share with me. In the last week and a half. And if it gets deeper in you and it gets to your lungs or, you know, bronchioles or something like that, then your innate immune system kicks into gear to produce antibodies to try and attach and and kill the foreign invader.
 
00:25:59:27 - 00:26:19:37
David Brownstein M.D
Now, the immune, the innate and the adaptive immune system are they work together. They're they're hand in hand and they're like, it's like an army in a Navy, you know, working, you know, calling each other, saying, we're trying to do this is failed. We need help with this. So we are that's how we were designed by our maker to fight infections and to deal with infections.
 
00:26:19:42 - 00:26:43:59
David Brownstein M.D
When we vaccinate an infection that comes in this way through the mouth of the nose, through what we call cell membrane, when we vaccinate, we're only dealing with the adaptive immune system. We're we're we're we're bypassing the innate immune system. So it doesn't really make physiologic sense to me that we're going to do well with any virus that comes in this way, with a vaccine that comes here.
 
00:26:44:03 - 00:26:59:12
David Brownstein M.D
And the flu vaccine is a perfect example of that. It doesn't work for the vast majority of people get it, and it's never been shown to work. Very well. And it's just the wrong way to deal with things.
 
00:26:59:20 - 00:27:13:47
Dr. Paul
Yeah. And the Covid information was even more devastating in terms of how ineffective you had. The Cleveland Clinic data showing the more Covid jabs you took, the worse you did as far as getting Covid.
 
00:27:13:47 - 00:27:37:35
David Brownstein M.D
So and there were other Covid vaccines that were tried in the past. They never worked great. I mean, we no reason to expect this was going to work any better. And there was no reason to for the powers that be to say, hey, let's wait till we get this vaccine, don't do anything, and we'll just lock everything down and bankrupt everybody and throw businesses out and, you know, and and whatever, except liquor stores, liquor stores all stayed open.
 
00:27:37:40 - 00:27:39:17
David Brownstein M.D
Know that was a good thing because.
 
00:27:39:17 - 00:27:41:26
Dr. Paul
It enriches and open the liquor stores.
 
00:27:41:30 - 00:27:42:07
David Brownstein M.D
Yeah. Yeah.
 
00:27:42:12 - 00:28:02:25
Dr. Paul
That was it was an interesting time to to sum it up, because I know we're running out of time and I'm going to have you back. I want to do a deep dive with you into iodine and into the nebula treatment, sort of a, emergency kit for folks, for the winter virus season. But but just to sum this up, you know, where can people get your book?
 
00:28:02:25 - 00:28:13:41
Dr. Paul
How can they get this information? And what do you want the take home message to be as people are facing these, doctors and clinics and health departments telling them to get all these vaccines.
 
00:28:13:45 - 00:28:28:12
David Brownstein M.D
Well, take a message. What you said, like, look at the Cleveland Clinic study. The more vaccines you get, the more likely you get a negative efficacy after a while and it keeps getting worse. The take home messages. You got to do your own research. You got to think about things. You got to question things. And we should all be questioning things.
 
00:28:28:17 - 00:28:46:37
David Brownstein M.D
Medicine has never done well over eons of time. When there's no dialog, there's no there's no debate. If things don't seem right to you, then then there's no reason in question. If you're seeing a doctor who doesn't know, you're not seeing eye to eye with, find one who you can communicate better with.
 
00:28:46:42 - 00:28:50:42
Dr. Paul
Are you still taking patients? Because I would come see you if I lived near you.
 
00:28:50:47 - 00:29:08:14
David Brownstein M.D
So I'm not taking patients right now. But I have two daughters, two doctor daughters who are taking patients. And I, you know, with some of my partners are taking patients, and, you know, we're we're we're we like what we do. You know, I think I think medicine's an adorable thing to do. And, you know, I'm, I wouldn't change anything.
 
00:29:08:14 - 00:29:18:14
David Brownstein M.D
I would do it again. Maybe the only thing I would do differently is I wouldn't do that for six months of conventional medicine and practice. That would have moved a little bit earlier to this. But.
 
00:29:18:19 - 00:29:19:42
Dr. Paul
You know.
 
00:29:19:47 - 00:29:41:09
David Brownstein M.D
Information about where so many things you can do for yourself to help, to help you have the best immune system possible. We're designed perfectly to withstand illnesses like Covid and to be able to get sick occasionally. And there's a there's a purpose of that. I think it detoxes the body and cleanses the body. And then you immune system comes out stronger in the end.
 
00:29:41:09 - 00:29:47:45
David Brownstein M.D
Run for it. So and the main message is people need to educate themselves and, you know, be able to ask questions.
 
00:29:47:50 - 00:29:56:58
Dr. Paul
Okay. So just for the parents out there, this is pediatric perspectives. Should they get these vaccines Covid, RSV, flu?
 
00:29:57:03 - 00:30:18:14
David Brownstein M.D
I think everyone needs to make their own decision. I would say that people if you want a vaccine, you should research it. And and if you decide that's right for you, then go get a vaccine. There is some efficacy to these vaccines. However, I think it's worthwhile saying, you know, one of the negative effects to it and are do the negative effects outweigh the positive effects?
 
00:30:18:19 - 00:30:36:32
David Brownstein M.D
And perhaps let me eat better, let me exercise, let me take the right supplements so my immune system would be strong and be able to deal with this. And won't that worry about a vaccine. So yeah. Should people take the vaccines? I think everyone needs to decide that, I, you know, clearly giving more vaccines is not the answer to better health.
 
00:30:36:32 - 00:30:52:33
David Brownstein M.D
I mean, look at our country, for God's sakes. You know, we get more vaccines than any other country on the face of the earth. We finished last on every health indicator, compared to every Western country out there. So giving more vaccines is not going to get us out of our health crisis that we're in right now.
 
00:30:52:38 - 00:31:17:20
Dr. Paul
Well, thank you, David. VAX VAX, the book that you held up is now in all bookstores, everywhere. Books are sold. And I don't hold any punches in that book, folks, because I no longer am licensed. So I can give you the honest truth and I don't have to withhold anything. So you have that. And then just in a final remark for this episode, what supplements do you think kids should be on through the winter?
 
00:31:17:32 - 00:31:44:42
David Brownstein M.D
Every human should be taking extra vitamin C. I put people on vitamin A, I think vitamin, you know, ensuring optimal vitamin D levels is important, and I time is really the missing link. I see, out there that for whatever reason, even though right eye levels across the United States are falling 50% over the last 50 years, doctors, even holistic doctors and many natural paths can't get their heads around how important iodine is.
 
00:31:44:47 - 00:31:57:27
David Brownstein M.D
It's an essential item we can't live without, and has antibacterial, antiviral, anti-parasitic, antifungal properties and its immune stimulating properties. If it was red, what do you think would be. I mean.
 
00:31:57:32 - 00:32:06:45
Dr. Paul
We are going to get you back and do a full episode, deep dive into iodine and what you need is your emergency kit. How can people get Ahold of you and order your books?
 
00:32:06:50 - 00:32:15:09
David Brownstein M.D
So you go to my website, WW Dr. Brownstein Broadway stadium.com and all the information is on there.
 
00:32:15:14 - 00:32:17:24
Dr. Paul
Thank you. Doctor Brownstein, thank you so much.
 
00:32:17:29 - 00:32:17:52
David Brownstein M.D
Thank you.
 
00:32:17:56 - 00:32:36:16
Dr. Paul
I'll folks you can also catch me on doctors and science.com for with the wind. And you can go to kids first forever.com. If you want individual coaching with myself or my coauthor JD Hoover. We'll see you next week.
 
00:32:41:35 - 00:32:43:11
Dr. Paul
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Dr. Paul
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00:33:07:35 - 00:33:14:51
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