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​Show162-PP-VAX-FACTS-BOOK Transcript
 
Speaks:
Dr. Paul - 70%
DeeDee Hoover - 30%
 
 
00:00:40:56 - 00:00:44:20
Dr. Paul
Welcome to With the Wind. I'm Doctor Paul, your host.
 
00:00:44:25 - 00:00:53:11
DeeDee Hoover
And I'm Dee Hoover. You're probably wondering this is a little different than normal. Let's tell them why we're here today.
 
00:00:53:16 - 00:01:04:07
Dr. Paul
We are here because we have just recorded a show on children's health defense TV called Pediatric Perspectives. And we did a fireside chat with.
 
00:01:04:08 - 00:01:04:49
DeeDee Hoover
We did, we.
 
00:01:04:49 - 00:01:05:05
Dr. Paul
Did.
 
00:01:05:10 - 00:01:06:20
DeeDee Hoover
With our fire because.
 
00:01:06:20 - 00:01:35:04
Dr. Paul
We have a fire which you can't see, but we have a book, VAX Facts, which is fire as well as our grandkids would say, this is our new book. It is a incredible book that everybody needs to own. It's going to hit bookstores December 10th. You can order copies at VAX Facts, Booking.com. But enjoy this show because we give you a huge preview and look inside and you'll get a real understanding of why you want this book.
 
00:01:35:08 - 00:01:35:55
Dr. Paul
Enjoy the show.
 
00:01:36:06 - 00:01:36:56
DeeDee Hoover
Thank you.
 
00:01:42:10 - 00:02:06:29
Dr. Paul
Doctor Paul here coming to you from the heart. It's been a while since I've talked to you from the heart. And I've missed it. We have been just undergoing a lot of change since we started with pediatric perspectives. But what's on my heart right now is that we are in this together, and we are in this together for our children.
 
00:02:06:34 - 00:02:32:07
Dr. Paul
That has always been the focus of my life as a pediatrician and as our life together. When we started and created Kids First Forever and now this book backs facts. It's about the kids, and it's a time in our world where things might seem a little upside down. You know, we had a recent election and some people have different feelings about that.
 
00:02:32:11 - 00:02:57:17
Dr. Paul
But in my heart, I feel like we as parents can always lead with love and keep the focus on our precious children and doing everything we can to be the best example for them and be the best nurturing, loving parent that they need so that they can grow and thrive. And I am delighted to be on this journey with you to do that.
 
00:02:57:22 - 00:03:11:55
Dr. Paul
And in fact, we are going to transform this show to be even more kid focused. In the very near future in 2025. So it's on my heart to to keep that journey going and expand on it even more.
 
00:03:11:55 - 00:03:18:46
Dr. Paul
And, I am very blessed to have on that journey an incredible partner in Didi Hoover.
 
00:03:18:46 - 00:03:31:00
DeeDee Hoover
And since we're here, I'm going to share my from this soul, because I've also missed sharing those. And a few of you have written in and said, where did you go, Didi? Why are you not on the show anymore?
 
00:03:31:00 - 00:03:46:28
DeeDee Hoover
We have been going through a lot of transformation and like you said earlier, we're going to be doing things a little bit differently next year to make sure that health and wellness and children's health is front and center.
 
00:03:46:32 - 00:04:18:52
DeeDee Hoover
That's our passion. So in my soul, that is what's been going on for me recently is connection. How do I really, deeply connect within myself to be the best that I can be? To make sure that everything I say or I do is spiritually connected, to make sure that people that I'm around or with feel comfortable and loved when we're connected to our souls.
 
00:04:18:56 - 00:04:37:02
DeeDee Hoover
That connection is so much easier. But in this world, it's so chaotic and it's so crazy. And with everything going on, like Doctor Paul mentioned, it's not easy to do. Sometimes it's as simple as taking a really good deep breath.
 
00:04:42:58 - 00:04:47:23
Dr. Paul
And breathe in love.
 
00:04:47:28 - 00:04:48:25
DeeDee Hoover
And exhale.
 
00:04:48:25 - 00:04:56:55
Dr. Paul
Fear or stress or tension. We love you. And we look forward to being together for a very long time.
 
00:05:15:46 - 00:05:39:34
Dr. Paul
Good morning PhD. Welcome to Pediatric Perspectives. Where we are looking at children's health challenges from a different perspective, one that's not afraid to ask the tough questions. Today's show is different. As you can see, I have with me for this fireside chat. My coauthor for a very important book that is hitting bookstores very soon. This is VAX Facts.
 
00:05:39:34 - 00:05:58:50
Dr. Paul
We are going to do a deep dive into this book, and for a little twist on things, Didi is going to be asking me the questions. So instead of my role being that of interviewing the guest, I am the guest. So welcome to the show and thanks for being with me, Didi.
 
00:05:58:54 - 00:06:09:11
DeeDee Hoover
Thank you. I am so excited. I have so many questions and it's very important to me that I don't forget anything. So I have them all right here.
 
00:06:09:15 - 00:06:09:47
Dr. Paul
Oh, boy.
 
00:06:09:56 - 00:06:15:24
DeeDee Hoover
So first let's start with that. Facts. The book. Why did you write it?
 
00:06:15:29 - 00:06:55:50
Dr. Paul
Some of the viewers probably know that I wrote a book called The Vaccine Friendly Plan that was published in 2016. That book was the culmination of my journey up to that point. I was a board certified pediatrician following the AP and the CDC schedule, vaccinated my own children according to that schedule. And it wasn't until the around 2000 I started waking up to the fact that, wait a minute, kids are not doing well, and then one of my own kids was particularly struggling neuro developmentally, putting it all together and then witnessing four kids in a row regress into autism having been normal at one non-verbal, severely autistic get to it was enough.
 
00:06:55:59 - 00:07:20:05
Dr. Paul
I started my own practice, started really honoring informed consent so parents could decide, well, an interesting thing happened when I did that many parents chose not to vaccinate. Not most, but some I started seeing. These unmarked kids were so healthy. So that reinforced my idea of I need to let parents decide. Let's give parents all the information possible.
 
00:07:20:10 - 00:07:40:25
Dr. Paul
So out comes my book. In 2016, The Vaccine Friendly Plan. My best guess at the time as to what would be the safest way to vaccinate if you were going to vaccinate. And there were a few key principles. Only one aluminum containing vaccine at a time. Spread them out. Slow them down, but wait till at least three for the MMR.
 
00:07:40:27 - 00:08:01:37
Dr. Paul
No hep B for newborns. There were there were things on the CDC schedule then that are still on the schedule now. That just didn't make sense. I was asked by the medical board to prove that the vaccine friendly plan was as safe as a CDC schedule. That was in early 2019, and by the end of that year, in 2020, I was able to publish an article with Jack Lyons.
 
00:08:01:37 - 00:08:31:46
Dr. Paul
Weiler with the data from my practice. This was a vaxed UN vaccine study with real world data. And what we found and published should have been a wakeup call to every public health agency in the world, every major health care system, every pediatrician, every practice should have gone. Oh my gosh, they should have seen what I saw. Unvaccinated kids are just plain healthier in all sorts of areas.
 
00:08:31:46 - 00:09:04:07
Dr. Paul
We didn't know about asthma, allergies, eczema, neurodevelopmental things, developmental delays, autism, ADHD, and then also infections. I was like, what the unvaccinated are getting sick less often. That just upsets the whole paradigm of vaccinate to be healthy. All right. So this book sets the record straight. It's the book I wish they had written back in 2016, but I didn't have enough data on Vaxed and Vaxed.
 
00:09:04:12 - 00:09:09:08
Dr. Paul
And it's not just my study, but there are plenty of studies now when we go through those in the book.
 
00:09:09:13 - 00:09:26:21
DeeDee Hoover
Okay, what kind of answers? My next question, but just to make sure we've completely covered it. What's different, though, between vaccine facts and vaccine friendly planning? If so, somebody says to you, so nobody should read vaccine friendly plan anymore.
 
00:09:26:26 - 00:09:53:39
Dr. Paul
Okay, it's a good question. I think for our viewers. I just have to thank the viewership for being so spot on on the vaccine issue. Sometimes you're preaching to the choir if if we have a viewer who's new to the concept that vaccines can cause harm, then that's where the books come into play. To some extent, the two complement each other in some respect.
 
00:09:53:44 - 00:10:14:21
Dr. Paul
A lot of us have family members who are all in on the CDC schedule. In fact, they're so in on the CDC schedule, they wouldn't even contemplate doing no vaccines. If that's your position, it's very difficult, not impossible, but very difficult to go from. I'm going to follow the CDC schedule to I'm not going to do any.
 
00:10:14:26 - 00:10:14:44
DeeDee Hoover
Right.
 
00:10:14:46 - 00:10:40:36
Dr. Paul
Right. So I think the vaccine friendly plan still has a role in bringing people along in just starting to question. Right. The most basic, simple question is why did newborns need the hepatitis B vaccine if their birth mother does not have hepatitis B, right? The only way a baby can get hepatitis B is if their birth mother has active hepatitis B, and that's about 0.1% of the US population.
 
00:10:40:41 - 00:11:11:05
Dr. Paul
So, you know, 1 in 1000 moms, in fact, in my entire practice. And I even had a slightly high risk practice because I also had an addiction clinic, I didn't have a single mom that had active hep B, not one. So the risk to an OB GYNs are testing moms anyway for happy status. So the risk of a baby getting hepatitis B in the United States is zero, because the babies who should get that vaccine are the ones who have moms who have active hepatitis B, and we know who they are.
 
00:11:11:10 - 00:11:43:33
Dr. Paul
So every other baby, 999 out of a thousand, is being injected with a poisonous dose of aluminum for no reason at all, no benefit, zero benefit, all harm. So that one's easy. So that's sort of a way that maybe the vaccine friendly plan starts introducing that idea. And it also covers a lot of normal pediatric development. But I think the the more important book to read is this one, VAX Facts, because it now includes all the data we have, not just my study, but many studies comparing vaccinated, unvaccinated children.
 
00:11:43:37 - 00:12:03:02
DeeDee Hoover
Okay. So on that point in time to how the vax vax is different from vaccine friendly plan, but how is VAX facts different from all of the other vaccine books that are out there? Does it complement or does it? How does that work? Should they read all the books? I should read all the.
 
00:12:03:02 - 00:12:30:21
Dr. Paul
Books I have a library of. I could probably fill a wall with books mostly related to vaccines. This is something I've been passionately studying for 20 plus years. I like books, and I think books are important because it is a palpable, touchable, and editable in the sense that stuff on the internet disappears. I don't know if people are aware of to the extent that that's happening now.
 
00:12:30:22 - 00:12:52:22
Dr. Paul
I mean, the internet is being scrubbed of information that would shed vaccines in a negative light. And so what people get when they do internet searches is very curated information. I mean, you are being led to the CDC and the academies and and the standard that the people who control the data and the messaging want you to have.
 
00:12:52:27 - 00:13:20:26
Dr. Paul
But if you have a book in your hand, they can't take any of that away. So books are important. This book complements several others. So I would say if you're relatively new on this journey and apologies to anybody else who has written books, because I've read so many great books. But currently today, most recently, I would get my hands on, well, Suzanne Humphreys, Dissolving Illusions really goes through the history.
 
00:13:20:26 - 00:13:52:29
Dr. Paul
Well, and there's a brand new book coming out any day now on the whole timeline of vaccines. That's a must own reference book. So those two, for reference on vaccines, Turtles All the Way Down, is a masterpiece to illustrate that not a single vaccine on the childhood schedule was properly tested with placebos sailing placebos. It talks about how short the trials are and how basically meaningless they are as far as their ability to find any adverse events.
 
00:13:52:34 - 00:14:10:57
Dr. Paul
So therefore, they can just keep on saying vaccines are safe. Well, if you don't look, you don't find and therefore it's kind of bogus research. So that's another great book. And then Vaxed, Vaxed is the other book that just came out this last year that I would say is a must. Because really, the rubber meets the road.
 
00:14:10:57 - 00:14:31:15
Dr. Paul
The truth comes out when you compare vaccinated to unvaccinated. Right. Which we do thoroughly in this book. Vaccine Facts and Facts Unpacked with Brian Hooker and RFK junior, is the other masterpiece that really pulls together the world's research and literature. Believe it or not, there's quite a bit out there, but it's just so buried you can't find it.
 
00:14:31:16 - 00:14:34:21
Dr. Paul
So that book and this book, we've done the research for you.
 
00:14:34:25 - 00:14:52:01
DeeDee Hoover
Speaking of research, you just mentioned a little bit earlier, but can you tell me more about the research that you did? You mentioned you felt forced to do that because you were forced to prove the vaccine friendly plan was safe? Right. So how did that all come about? What did you do to to do research?
 
00:14:52:03 - 00:15:20:09
Dr. Paul
So, you know, I'm sitting on a large practice with at that time, 15,000 patients. And I had, I can give you pretty close to the numbers there in the study. I had about 563 unvaccinated patients, children born into my practice. We decided to look at just the kids born into my practice because what was happening for many, many years was my peers, other pediatricians in the Portland area.
 
00:15:20:10 - 00:15:44:58
Dr. Paul
I worked in Portland, Oregon. I'm retired, by the way, so this is all informational, educational. I'm not telling you what to do. And in fact, that's the key of informed consent. Here's all the information you decide. But anyway, we thought let's look at just the patients born into my practice. I was in a suburban Portland, Oregon area, so my population demographics were very similar, you know, mostly middle class.
 
00:15:44:58 - 00:16:14:30
Dr. Paul
I had a small percentage, maybe 5%, who were on state assistance. As far as you know, meeting income levels, that you could get help, which is important. I wanted to be able to provide care to everybody that wanted it in. And for the most part, these were fairly educated and informed patients. And we looked at compared the 563 unmarked, completely no vaccines to the 2700 and some variably vaccinated.
 
00:16:14:30 - 00:16:35:23
Dr. Paul
And we use the term variably because most of them were following the vaccine friendly plan. I don't think I had a single CDC vaccinated child in this sample size, maybe one who was just so young you couldn't tell. So we were basically comparing vaccine friendly plan kids who get about half or less than the CDC kids get. So we're comparing vaccine friendly to unmasked.
 
00:16:35:24 - 00:17:18:33
Dr. Paul
You would think that I would think that the unvaccinated do a little better health wise. Just from my experience. What I was shocked to find out was that the unvaccinated did incredibly better. Vaccinated kids, even on the vaccine friendly plan, were having way more asthma, way more eczema, way more allergies, allergic rhinitis, conjunctivitis, way more neurodevelopmental issues, language, developmental issues, autism and and then as I mentioned earlier, the shock was way more infections, ear infections, sinus infections, lung infections, skin infections, eye infection and all infections combined at percentages over time.
 
00:17:18:33 - 00:17:43:42
Dr. Paul
So we had ten and a half years of data that just looked like this skyrocketing for the vaccinated and barely increasing for the unvaccinated over those ten years. Magnitude differences of 4 to 8 times. That's 400 to 800% better outcomes if you're not vaccinated, including in all those infectious areas. That's amazing.
 
00:17:43:46 - 00:17:49:21
DeeDee Hoover
Well, isn't there something though about correlation doesn't mean causation or something like that? Can you explain.
 
00:17:49:21 - 00:18:09:16
Dr. Paul
That? You beat me to it. So when I'm talking to people, especially academic folks, my peers, you start sharing the data like I've been sharing with you in our audience about the difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated population. They're just going to go, everybody knows vaccines don't cause autism. That's been proven, which is a lie, by the way.
 
00:18:09:16 - 00:18:37:23
Dr. Paul
But anyway, they often come up with correlation. Doesn't mean causation. And and that is a truth. But correlation doesn't exclude causation either. Right. So what does it take. And this is a really important point for people to grasp. Because when somebody throws correlation doesn't equal causation at you. You need to have an educated, informed response to to sort of neutralize that argument because the arguments empty.
 
00:18:37:32 - 00:19:01:33
Dr. Paul
It's just a blank statement. The correlation could be causation. So if you got a shot of penicillin or a dose of amoxicillin, which has it's a penicillin and you got hives like within minutes or hours, your body's covered with hives. You have an allergic reaction to penicillin. Your doctor would to every doctor would tell you that. Your grandmother would tell you that.
 
00:19:01:37 - 00:19:23:12
Dr. Paul
Well, but it's just a correlation. No, it's a causation. How did we get there? We saw it over and over again. It was published not just once, but several times at least. And so you also have a mechanism. So you need to have all three things. The event follows what you did. So you gave up penicillin or amoxicillin.
 
00:19:23:12 - 00:19:48:53
Dr. Paul
You got the hives followed. And it's been documented many times. And there's a reason for it. You can explain a reason. And Allergists have done that eloquently. Well, with vaccines, we also have all of that. All of those criteria are now met. The injuries are following the vaccines. They're not happening before. They're happening after the vaccines. And this includes all the things I found in my study.
 
00:19:48:54 - 00:20:18:17
Dr. Paul
Asthma, eczema, allergies, ADHD, autism, infections all all kinds of infections. They follow the vaccines. Okay. So we've got vaccine. We've got side effect. We now have published data the vaccine vax book. This book VAX facts with peer reviewed studies. Line them up. Probably over 100 of them in the peer reviewed literature documenting vaccine injury. Things happening after vaccine.
 
00:20:18:18 - 00:20:45:51
Dr. Paul
So just like penicillin, this isn't a one off, two off, three off right 100 times it's been shown to be the case. And we now know the mechanisms. We now have very smart allergist immunologists, doctors who understand vaccinology, who've been able to show that you've got immune activation, you've got direct toxicity, you've got all sorts of immunologic reasons that this happens, autoimmunity being triggered.
 
00:20:45:56 - 00:20:53:32
Dr. Paul
So we have met the criteria. It is now clear vaccines are causing a host of medical problems.
 
00:20:53:37 - 00:21:05:05
DeeDee Hoover
So you do the research. You wrote a paper. And when I go to look at it it says retracted. Can you explain that?
 
00:21:05:10 - 00:21:30:58
Dr. Paul
I certainly can. There is a very interesting phenomena that if you're not in the health freedom community, you might not be aware of, and that is that any article that you publish or try to publish that sheds vaccines in a negative light. First of all, it rarely gets published. It is a massive hurdle to even find a journal that will publish an article that shows vaccines in the negative light.
 
00:21:31:07 - 00:21:56:39
Dr. Paul
I just read in Jama, the journal of the American Medical Association. The editor for the past couple decades puts in his. He's summarizing his understanding of the importance of journalism in medicine. And it's right in there. You have to avoid allowing anything that's going to be misinformation, you know, shed vaccines in a negative light. I mean, they are actively screening it out.
 
00:21:56:44 - 00:22:17:15
Dr. Paul
So that's the first hurdle. But the second hurdle is once you get something through to a journal that sheds vaccines in a negative light. So they're saying this whole research is forbidden. We won't expose the world to this knowledge. We're going to hide it. We're not going to allow it into the journals. But if it slips through, they attack it.
 
00:22:17:30 - 00:22:41:47
Dr. Paul
So if you if you look for articles that have been retracted, those are most likely when it comes to the vaccine arena. There are any article that sheds vaccines in a negative light gets retracted. This goes way back to Andy Wakefield and his 1998 article that just simply documented a series of cases of severely autistic kids and what he found in their gut, which was lymph.
 
00:22:41:49 - 00:23:08:41
Dr. Paul
All the lymphoid tissue was carrying measles strain, vaccine strain, measles. And he's gone. There may be a link. This needs to be investigated. Well, shame on you for suggesting there might be a link. Anyway, his findings were validated in other studies, but to this day, that article remains retracted, just as this article that we published after six months of being up in a peer reviewed international Journal of Public Health.
 
00:23:08:46 - 00:23:39:53
Dr. Paul
One bogus complaint. It was a false idea that this person presented. They retracted it after it had been viewed a quarter million times, 250,000 times this had been downloaded and it was retracted. And then, of course, they stamp retracted over there. So I think if you're aware of what goes on with vaccine research, when you see a vaccine related article that says retracted, you should stay pay special attention to that article and what they found.
 
00:23:39:58 - 00:24:05:34
DeeDee Hoover
And one thing that I would like to share to viewers is I find it very fascinating because you said yourself, if you say something in a negative light against vaccines, the fact that something is looked at, something and judged to be positive or negative versus looking at it in a way to see, wow, if these are the results, shouldn't we take a deeper look?
 
00:24:05:39 - 00:24:14:15
DeeDee Hoover
Shouldn't we question more versus one opinion being something that can change everything that nobody else can? Then get that information?
 
00:24:14:26 - 00:24:15:40
Dr. Paul
Yeah, I mean you had.
 
00:24:15:40 - 00:24:16:10
DeeDee Hoover
To share that.
 
00:24:16:10 - 00:24:35:53
Dr. Paul
Opinion. You've highlighted for me what's important is what works, right? If you're raising kids, you want healthy, robustly healthy children. You want to know what works. We're finding out that vaccinating is not working. If you want if your goal is a healthy child, right.
 
00:24:35:53 - 00:24:57:39
DeeDee Hoover
Which I am pretty sure that's what the goal should be, is raising a healthy, loving, kind, wonderful child. So what is your response to those who say that if we stop vaccinating, if nobody ever vaccinates, then all the diseases are going to come back and kill us all off.
 
00:24:57:43 - 00:24:59:18
Dr. Paul
I hear that a lot.
 
00:24:59:23 - 00:25:00:33
DeeDee Hoover
I know.
 
00:25:00:38 - 00:25:20:20
Dr. Paul
And I, I remember I was on the Dell Bakeries high wire one time, several years ago, and he asked me that same question, and I went there. I mean, I just went through all the diseases one by one, by one by one that are in the vaccine schedule and showed how basically that's not happening. Measles might come back.
 
00:25:20:25 - 00:25:46:27
Dr. Paul
The the live virus, vaccines, measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox those might come back. But then you have to with those you have to look at how devastating would it be. And we learned from Covid that viruses that particularly but infections in general over time the mutations that happen actually make them less fatal, less dangerous. So you know Wuhan strain was very dangerous.
 
00:25:46:27 - 00:26:06:08
Dr. Paul
Delta less. So Omnicom almost not worrisome at all to the point where now, you know, coronavirus is back to what it always was, which is just causing a cold for almost everybody. Well, the same is true even for measles. By the time they introduced the measles vaccine in 1963. So I had measles as a kid. I was born in 57.
 
00:26:06:13 - 00:26:32:13
Dr. Paul
Those of us born in 57 or before are determined to be lifelong immune to measles. Isn't that interesting? One shot and you're immune for life. That's natural immunity, which, by the way, is the gold standard if you want to really have protection. Just like with Covid, the people who got a Covid infection were much more protected against future coronavirus and Covid infections than those who got vaccines.
 
00:26:32:13 - 00:27:01:33
Dr. Paul
In fact, the more vaccines you got, the less protected you were, the more likely you were to get infected, the more likely you were to get hospitalized, the more likely you were to die. It's upside down to what people think. But anyway, to answer your question specifically, we would not go back to the dark ages. What really changed our world as far as infectious diseases was the flush toilet, refrigeration, sanitation, better nutrition, better access to food.
 
00:27:01:37 - 00:27:20:50
Dr. Paul
And people weren't living in slums with sewer running in the streets like it was back in the 1800s in the big cities that were just industrial. I mean, it was horrible conditions and great conditions for infections, right? And that doesn't exist anymore. Our problem now is we don't get out in the dirt enough.
 
00:27:20:55 - 00:27:26:08
DeeDee Hoover
Right? That's all I have to bring back for another show, because that's a whole different.
 
00:27:26:08 - 00:27:26:58
Dr. Paul
That's a whole different.
 
00:27:26:58 - 00:27:50:48
DeeDee Hoover
Topic. Keep our children healthy. Yeah. So what do you say to the people who say that? It's it's our duty to protect the vulnerable. You know, those who have cancer, immunocompromised, newborn children. Yeah, that if we were to vaccinate, that protects them. And if we're not doing that, then we're not helping society. Yeah.
 
00:27:50:53 - 00:28:19:39
Dr. Paul
Thanks for bringing that up. I have been specifically accused by pediatric infectious disease experts in the town I was working in, that I was single handedly destroying community immunity, and that I was putting vulnerable children at risk, that I needed to be purged from the society. And several doctors calling for me to lose my license. Right. Several calls for me to actually lose my board certification.
 
00:28:19:39 - 00:28:49:00
Dr. Paul
I was board certified for 30 years as a pediatrician, all based on a misunderstanding and a lack of knowledge. So here's from their perspective. You vaccinate and therefore the people you vaccinate are immune and they don't get sick. And so therefore they're going to protect the vulnerable. What they don't know. And I don't blame them necessarily for feeling how they feel because they're working with limited information.
 
00:28:49:05 - 00:29:15:44
Dr. Paul
But if they would read vax facts and open their eyes to the research that we're presenting, it would become crystal clear that it's like an light bulb going off. Wait a minute. UN facts children rarely get sick, and when they do, they get better quickly. Wait a minute. The vaccinated kids are a lot sicker. Then you have to ask yourself who is a threat to a vulnerable chap?
 
00:29:15:49 - 00:29:45:22
Dr. Paul
So the vulnerable kids are people who are immunocompromised. They they've been on cancer chemotherapy for example, and their immune systems are just locked, shut down. They are more vulnerable, but they're vulnerable to all infections. And who's going to get them sick? A well child or a sick child? It is sick children who get other children sick. The unvaccinated, who rarely get sick, are actually doing a service to society and to humanity because they rarely get sick.
 
00:29:45:22 - 00:30:17:14
Dr. Paul
They are very rarely a threat. Right? And highly vaccinated children are always sick, and they are a much greater threat to that vulnerable child. I've heard pediatricians say, I'm going to have to kick you out of my office because you won't vaccinate, because you're a threat to my vulnerable children. I have cancer patients in my practice, and I don't want you to be a threat yet you go into their office and is full of sick children, coughing and sneezing and hacking and ear infection, sinus infections, lung infections, all the things that are highly decreased in my practice.
 
00:30:17:15 - 00:30:38:36
Dr. Paul
In fact, I had two waiting rooms well and sick. And when I started, you know, 14 years ago, the two rooms were pretty equal. And how many patients were sitting in them for the last three years of my practice, the sick waiting room hardly ever had anybody in it. So that practice was not only protecting the vulnerable by not having exposure to sick kids.
 
00:30:38:40 - 00:30:49:55
Dr. Paul
We not only separated them even in the waiting rooms, but there just weren't hardly any sick kids in the practice. That's how you protect vulnerable children. So they got it backwards.
 
00:30:50:00 - 00:31:10:20
DeeDee Hoover
Right. It's not just vulnerable children. I want to bring that up is because with Covid two, we saw a lot. I saw a lot of parents being told that if they're not going to vaccinate their children or even the school system, that it's it's them bringing that disease. Then Instagram for grandma.
 
00:31:10:25 - 00:31:12:18
Dr. Paul
So share this story because you tell it.
 
00:31:12:18 - 00:31:33:28
DeeDee Hoover
Well, I'm a pediatric body worker. I'm working in your pediatric practice, your clinic. And you had referred a child to me that the parents were concerned about because she wasn't talking much at home and she wouldn't take her mask off. And we were noticing through Covid two, there were a lot more children that had a lot of anxiety and different issues.
 
00:31:33:33 - 00:31:39:27
DeeDee Hoover
Well, she came in with her mask on and this precious little girl, I.
 
00:31:39:27 - 00:31:40:07
Dr. Paul
Believe, was.
 
00:31:40:12 - 00:32:00:16
DeeDee Hoover
5 or 6. She was kindergarten, and she comes in and I go into the room together and just the two of us to talk first before doing anything. And I said, so, you know, if we're going to do a massage, it would be helpful not to have the mask off. And she said, I can't take it off. And I said, well, do you want to tell me?
 
00:32:00:16 - 00:32:27:10
DeeDee Hoover
And she had been asked at home why she didn't say anything. And this just shows you sometimes if somebody tells you something and tells you no, don't say anything, that a child's going to listen. This child was told by her school teacher because she kept trying to take it off in class. She said, no, you have to keep that on because if you don't keep on your mask, keep your mask on at all times, you can give somebody Covid.
 
00:32:27:15 - 00:32:41:55
DeeDee Hoover
And if you go home, this teacher knew that this child had grandma at home, that you could give grandma Covid and it could kill her. So she said, I can't take off my mask because I can kill grandma.
 
00:32:42:00 - 00:32:42:42
Dr. Paul
Wow.
 
00:32:42:47 - 00:33:09:22
DeeDee Hoover
Yeah. And especially at that point, that was before children could even get the Covid vaccine. So back to you. Even in the book, when you talk about that, the children, one of the things that people say is that it's the unvaccinated kids that are getting the vaccinated kids sick, right? So it's not just immunocompromised, but they think that, again, the idea of that is that the unvaccinated kids, at a certain point, my child wouldn't get certain vaccines.
 
00:33:09:27 - 00:33:16:41
DeeDee Hoover
So the school calls you and tells you your child is unvaccinated. You have to keep them home so that the vaccinated kids don't get sick. Do you address that?
 
00:33:16:43 - 00:33:42:37
Dr. Paul
Well, isn't that a little weird? So you're vaccinated to be protected against? Let's just use Covid as example as the most recent scary threat, right? So you get your Covid vaccine, you get your series, you get your booster. You should be about as protected as ever. If indeed, vaccines provide protection. Turns out they don't. The Cleveland data was powerful.
 
00:33:42:42 - 00:34:06:21
Dr. Paul
Cleveland Clinic, they started vaccines on a certain day. I think it was in December of 2021, and they recorded for about 100 days. Every single employee got weekly nose swabs, got weekly health histories. And then they compared the vaccinated to the unvaccinated, to the variably vaccinated for Covid. And the more vaccines you got, the more Covid infections you got.
 
00:34:06:25 - 00:34:43:14
Dr. Paul
So that's interesting. The vaccines are not protecting. So it's the vaccinated who are getting sick. And once again, who's a threat to your sickly vaccinated child, other vaccinated children who keep getting sick, not the unvaccinated who aren't sick. That's not to say let's be fully clear here. There are some unvaccinated kids who sometimes get sick. And if you have a compromised immune system and I would say getting a lot of vaccines without a doubt compromises your immune system, then the vaccinated kids are a big, big threat.
 
00:34:43:18 - 00:35:06:49
Dr. Paul
The unvaccinated kid is a little bit of a threat when they're sick. So it's all about using common sense. And if you have a child who's vulnerable. Back to the cancer kid. You were talking to me about, you don't go out in public anyway. I mean, cancer therapists, the oncologist know that you check blood levels for white blood cell counts, and when they're too low to provide any protection, that kid doesn't go out in public at all.
 
00:35:06:54 - 00:35:15:51
Dr. Paul
You don't invite friends over at all. You isolate until your blood count is back enough, high enough so that you're safe. That was an aside. Sorry.
 
00:35:15:58 - 00:35:36:19
DeeDee Hoover
That's okay. Please tell us more. So you have a chapter. We have a chapter in the book? Yes. On SIDs. Why is that? Why did you feel like that? I know that you think that was absolutely critical and important. Yeah. Tell everyone else why that was important. That that chapters in the book.
 
00:35:36:24 - 00:36:08:28
Dr. Paul
Well, SIDs, thankfully, I have not had a single case in my practice. I do know of a friends grandchild that died of SIDs. But it's happening and it's happening. You know, I think there's like at least 2000 cases over a ten year period that was published, and they call it sudden infant death syndrome because they claim they don't know why it's happening.
 
00:36:08:33 - 00:36:33:33
Dr. Paul
If we don't know why kids are just suddenly dying in their sleep, you know, a healthy infant just stops breathing and you find them blue and cold and dead. If we don't know why, we can't do anything to prevent it. Right. So when you put the syndrome label, it's saying, we don't know. Well, we have this chapter in this book because it's time people know and it's almost that same thing.
 
00:36:33:33 - 00:37:00:13
Dr. Paul
Causation, association and causation. Well, there are six published peer reviewed studies with data on SIDs and how it's related to timing. And guess what, folks? In one data set 97%. Now this one data set I'm quoting is not one of the six published. But in this data set, 97% of the SIDs happened in the first week after the vaccine.
 
00:37:00:25 - 00:37:28:54
Dr. Paul
The other 3% happened in the next week. 0% after that. All the deaths were after the vaccine and none for weeks before the next vaccine. If you look at the six published peer review studies in totality, 78% of the SIDs happened in the first week after vaccines, 78%. And the data is more impressive in certain studies than others.
 
00:37:28:54 - 00:37:59:34
Dr. Paul
But that's just your average. So clearly vaccines are killing infants. They're causing SIDs. They're causing babies to die. The sad thing is the medical establishment and the system, the pathologists who perhaps the doctors who put the diagnosis on the on the paperwork or the pathologists who might do an autopsy, they'll never put vaccines a cause. They put SIDs or sudden unknown death, or they use suffocation.
 
00:37:59:35 - 00:38:24:28
Dr. Paul
I know you've got some stories about this that are horrifying. Anybody that's planning to vaccinate their baby not only needs to read this whole book facts, facts, but needs to read that chapter on SIDs. Because when you're making a choice between, you know, am I going to do this vaccine or not? You've got to put into the equation, this vaccine could kill my baby because it happens.
 
00:38:24:33 - 00:38:49:15
Dr. Paul
And you're not being told that. We talk about it in the book and it's been documented how aluminum, for example, many of these vaccines have aluminum and aluminum can shut down your breathing center in the brain. Basically, you just stop breathing and oh, well, right. Because the brain is so immature. I mean, this is why I think vaccines are so much more dangerous than infants.
 
00:38:49:16 - 00:39:14:44
Dr. Paul
It's sudden infant death syndrome is not a sudden toddler death syndrome. Right? I gotta make a little addition to that. Yeah. We now have died suddenly. Teenagers and adults. And that's all post Covid rollout. I mean, it was a known condition, but nobody ever heard of it, right? I never heard of anybody young and healthy, dropping dead. I mean, we can now take that back.
 
00:39:14:57 - 00:39:35:17
Dr. Paul
There's a certain kind of heart arrhythmia that we knew athletes could get and drop dead, but it was so rare. Now, after the Covid jab, it's happening everywhere. People are just dropping dead. Sudden adult death syndrome set. But we've known about SIDs. It wasn't affecting toddlers or school age kids. So there's a special vulnerability to an infant's brain.
 
00:39:35:30 - 00:39:50:35
Dr. Paul
Why are we putting most of the vaccines into infants who have an immature immune system, immature brain, a developing brain that's vulnerable to injury? It's upside down, backwards. Crazy.
 
00:39:50:44 - 00:40:16:48
DeeDee Hoover
I don't feel like. And this is why I'm so excited about the book. And as I know you are, is we're not taught right to understand that. Right. So that, you know, I was told that you give this infant this shot because it protects them from getting that disease, that there's a there's the antibodies. Right, right. And that's going to protect my child.
 
00:40:16:48 - 00:40:19:02
DeeDee Hoover
Right? That's what I'm told. Right.
 
00:40:19:07 - 00:40:36:56
Dr. Paul
And that's not wrong okay. And pediatricians to this day, most of them will tell you because I used to do this because I didn't know the other side of the equation how dangerous they were. Because remember, we started off with the research is they don't have a placebo. They don't do studies for very long. Turtles all the way down goes through it in detail.
 
00:40:37:10 - 00:40:54:17
Dr. Paul
We go through it in this book, backs facts when you don't even look at the other side of the equation, you just look at potential benefit. I can tell you why pediatricians are saying you should get all those shots as infants. Your two month old, which by the way, now can take nine shots at once. And several of those have way too much aluminum.
 
00:40:54:22 - 00:41:14:10
Dr. Paul
But if we give them a Hib, they're going to get a little boost of antibodies and some tiny measure of protection. Now we cover each of these diseases in detail in the book. And go over risks and benefits. But it's not that the benefits zero. It's close to zero, but it's not zero. So if you could get a little bit of benefit, why wouldn't you?
 
00:41:14:15 - 00:41:33:06
Dr. Paul
And then at four months the benefit because their immune system's so immature. We need to boost it to, to get more benefit. So we're going to do a booster two months later at four months. And now the antibody levels, maybe they go from 40 to 60%. So you got more protection. Mind you it's against the wrong strain of Haemophilus.
 
00:41:33:06 - 00:41:51:38
Dr. Paul
But never mind that we cover that also. But at least you're getting a little bit more protection. And we're going to boost again at six months with the same vaccine because now we can maybe bump it up. It was at 60 it. It's vaccine induced immunity antibodies. They don't last as well as natural infection. So they're waning. They're going down.
 
00:41:51:38 - 00:42:13:27
Dr. Paul
Maybe they're down to 40 or 50 would boost again. We're up to 60 or 80%. Maybe. Isn't that wonderful. We're helping the children when they need the help most. That's what you will be told. But you're not told of the dangers. You're not told of the fact that most Haemophilus influenza type B is gone. It's all the other types now.
 
00:42:13:27 - 00:42:46:23
Dr. Paul
So the vaccine is vaccinating against the strain that's almost completely gone. So the value of that vaccine is very close to zero. But it's also dangerous. So you have a close to worthless vaccine that's dangerous for benefit. That's minuscule. It doesn't add up, but it is all about making a decision. And I want parents to have all the information, which is why we're really recommending anybody that's considering having children or if, you know, families who have children and are having to wrestle with this whole thing, should I vaccinate?
 
00:42:46:23 - 00:42:51:22
Dr. Paul
Which ones? What's the risks? What's the benefit? Facts, facts. A great place to start.
 
00:42:51:33 - 00:43:00:22
DeeDee Hoover
Wrapping all this all up. From your standpoint, what do you think is the most important thing that someone's going to get from reading?
 
00:43:00:22 - 00:43:41:32
Dr. Paul
That's that's I think if you are already fairly aware that vaccines have risk, this will give you this will arm you with information so that you can speak confidently, about why you've made the decisions you've made, not to vaccinate or maybe to vaccinate slower. If this is new information for you. I really think that you'll be able to understand, first of all, just the importance of informed consent and not being mandated to inject something into your body or your child's body by agency that are not accountable.
 
00:43:41:37 - 00:44:06:18
Dr. Paul
Agencies that are profiting, that have conflicts of interest, that have no liability. They have complete liability protection for every vaccine on the schedule. They even got emergency protection for the Covid jabs, which are completely experimental, not vaccines and very dangerous. So I think when people understand that and then you get the information so that you can analyze vaccine by vaccine, does this one make sense?
 
00:44:06:18 - 00:44:09:33
Dr. Paul
Does this one make sense and goes do the work.
 
00:44:09:38 - 00:44:10:39
DeeDee Hoover
Do the work.
 
00:44:10:39 - 00:44:28:25
Dr. Paul
Please. Do you know this is your precious baby, this is your extension of your existence, if you will. And we love our babies. And then would you feed them toxic soup without looking at the ingredients and what you're about to feed your baby? No. You would add parents.
 
00:44:28:25 - 00:44:28:59
DeeDee Hoover
To a great.
 
00:44:28:59 - 00:44:51:33
Dr. Paul
Job if they end up having to do formula. They're researching it, which is the best one. Look at the vaccines. Look at the ingredients. We've got links to the package insert so you can see exactly what's in all these vaccines. And we go through in detail with references over 300 pros and cons. What's in them. Side effects, effects the whole picture.
 
00:44:51:33 - 00:45:10:25
Dr. Paul
And then you can make a decision with information. So I think this will be one of the most easily digestible books as far as if you are just a parent or just a mom, which we're going to get to your role as just a mom. I think this is one of the easiest books for a person to read, and you don't have to read the whole thing either.
 
00:45:10:30 - 00:45:28:27
Dr. Paul
You can jump around if you're in pregnancy, go to the pregnancy chapter. If you're an adult, jump to the adult chapter. Maybe read the Covid chapter as well because you're not quite done with us in as far as Covid goes, simply because it's still on the childhood schedule. It needs to that that needs to go away. That was a disaster.
 
00:45:28:27 - 00:45:35:34
Dr. Paul
The fact that it's still being recommended, I can't put words to it. It blows my mind now.
 
00:45:35:40 - 00:45:38:19
DeeDee Hoover
It's very upsetting, especially when you see what we see.
 
00:45:38:24 - 00:45:45:52
Dr. Paul
Yeah. Thank you daddy. You are an amazing host. Think you have to have you come back again someday and, pick my brain on something else.
 
00:45:45:52 - 00:45:52:40
DeeDee Hoover
You brought up a lot of things today, and my brain's already going. But what about this? But what about that? That's just that. Just a mom piece.
 
00:45:52:45 - 00:46:07:06
Dr. Paul
Grab your copy of VAX Facts. It's available at VAX Facts Bbc.com. And it hits bookstores December 10th. Thank you so much for watching.
 
00:46:12:25 - 00:46:38:19
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