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With the Wind with Dr. Paul – Show 179, Pediatric Perspectives: What Has Changed with Cancer, with William Makis, M.D.
 
Speaking Time for Each Speaker

• William Makis, M.D.: 52.29%
• Dr. Paul: 47.29%

 
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Dr. Paul
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Dr. Paul
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00:01:35:10 - 00:01:56:14
Dr. Paul
Good morning. PhD. Welcome to Pediatric Perspectives, where we are looking at children's health challenges from a different perspective, one that includes critical thinking, one that's not afraid to give you the honest truth. I'm your host. Doctor Paul and I have a guest today I'm excited to talk with. And that's Doctor William Marcus. Welcome to the show, doctor Marcus.
 
00:01:56:19 - 00:01:57:39
William Makis, M.D.
Thank you very much for having me.
 
00:01:57:44 - 00:02:29:44
Dr. Paul
It is a pleasure. I have only recently learned about your incredible work. I mean, you have, expertise in radiology, oncology, immunology. But what a combination of expertise. You've been given accolades, governor General's medal and the University of Toronto scholar. You've written 100 plus peer reviewed medical publications. I stumbled on your Substack recently. Over 60,000 followers. What we're going to focus on today is cancer and pediatric cancers.
 
00:02:29:44 - 00:02:48:32
Dr. Paul
I am fascinated to talk to someone with that combination of background in cancer, oncology, radiology and immunology. Before we get to that, though, I would be really interested to hear your journey in medicine. Because it's nice to have a perspective of where someone comes from.
 
00:02:48:37 - 00:03:09:37
William Makis, M.D.
Well, thank you, I appreciate that. I was born in, communist Czechoslovakia. And, when I was young, my parents and I fled communism, through, refugee camp, United Nations refugee camp, in 1988. And, we were lucky enough for fortunate enough to, be given refuge in Canada and so we landed in Canada.
 
00:03:09:37 - 00:03:39:02
William Makis, M.D.
I grew up in Toronto. My dad is a math professor at University of Toronto, and I was initially going to follow a career path in mathematics, but I found that it wasn't for me. I really loved biology. And, so I pursued, sort of the biology route. I did a four year immunology degree at University of Toronto, undergraduate degree, then went to medical school at McGill University in Montreal, and then did a five year training in nuclear medicine, radiology and oncology.
 
00:03:39:02 - 00:04:02:45
William Makis, M.D.
And so most of my practice has been oncology. I started out in general nuclear medicine. You know, I was doing cardiac scans, bone scans and sort of general nuclear medicine imaging. And then, I wanted to really branch out into oncology. And so that became, that became the focus of my career in the past ten years or so.
 
00:04:02:50 - 00:04:15:40
Dr. Paul
Okay. That's fascinating. We we share a couple things in common. I grew up overseas in southern Africa, and, yeah, our journeys have have sort of followed some similarities.
 
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William Makis, M.D.
We have a lot of South African doctors, you know, in Canada, they, they come, they come to Canada, and I, I'm sure they find it really cold up here. But, we have a lot of amazing South African doctors that practicing time.
 
00:04:28:36 - 00:04:55:22
Dr. Paul
Yeah. No, they they they are, forced to leave in many cases, just political and whatever safety issues, your journey also took you on a path. I think that was slightly different than most of your peers. What was it in your journey that opened your eyes? I mean, probably growing up overseas was a piece of that. I know my background overseas sort of allowed me to think outside the box a little bit.
 
00:04:55:27 - 00:05:27:07
Dr. Paul
But when it comes to cancer, since we're going to focus on that, mainstream medicine cancer treatment for the most part, my simple, simplified assessment is radiology, chemotherapy and surgery. And, of course you were in radiology, so that would have been probably a lot of what you were doing. Did your perspective change at all along the way as far as, other modalities, maybe a little story about what you've learned about cancer?
 
00:05:27:11 - 00:05:58:58
William Makis, M.D.
My perspective on cancer certainly has changed dramatically, compared to, you know, compared to my peers, compared to my colleagues. I initially ran a very large clinical trial with targeted radionuclide therapy. And so this was still considered conventional treatment. Now, it is in the area of, radiation therapy. But instead of being as a radiation oncologist would use external beam radiation therapy to irradiate, you know, specific parts of the body, like the brain or certain bone tasks.
 
00:05:58:58 - 00:06:24:43
William Makis, M.D.
For example, we were doing systemic targeted radionuclide therapy with by injecting radionuclides that were connected to, to proteins and peptides that would deliver the radiation specifically to the tumor. So it was a new it was a new treatment modality, but still in the conventional sense that you were still treating with radiation. Now, of course, you were sparing the rest of the tissues because it was targeted.
 
00:06:24:47 - 00:06:55:31
William Makis, M.D.
So that was exciting. I was, you know, really excited about kind of being part of the the next generation of cancer treatments as I, as I saw it, unfortunately, in Canada, I ran into, corruption in, in our medical system and I ran into corruption before the Covid 19 pandemic. And so my, my cancer program was targeted and, and, and I realized that there's a lot of politics and corruption, you know, a lot of money that's involved.
 
00:06:55:36 - 00:07:18:28
William Makis, M.D.
And, and patients are not always put first. And I think that was really what kind of broke my heart. I was seeing that the medical bureaucracy puts politics first, puts money first. And patients usually come last. Yeah. And so I was forced to to, to sort of adjust my, my view on, on medicine and how medicine is practice.
 
00:07:18:28 - 00:07:23:40
William Makis, M.D.
And then the pandemic hit. And honestly, the Covid pandemic changed everything.
 
00:07:23:44 - 00:07:50:07
Dr. Paul
We're going to talk about that. Let's let's stay pre-COVID pandemic just for a moment. And then we'll get into what happened with the Covid pandemic, pre Covid pandemic, what would you say were the major drivers of cancer? So, I've been reading some interesting things about the somatic cell theory. Right of of cancer and that maybe. No, it's more of a metabolic thing.
 
00:07:50:12 - 00:07:58:46
Dr. Paul
Do you have any thoughts about what what's been driving cancer because cancer rates have gone up. Have they not consistently over the decades?
 
00:07:58:50 - 00:08:19:54
William Makis, M.D.
It's true. There has been a gradual rise, in, many cancers. And now this trend line goes back, you know, probably for the past 20 years. And this is what we hear, when, you know, when they're looking at the explosion of cancers now. And they said, well, it's been coming for a long time, and it's been developing for a long time.
 
00:08:19:54 - 00:09:00:28
William Makis, M.D.
But you know, what they what the mainstream media doesn't tell people is that there's actually been a dramatic explosion since the roll out of the Covid 19 vaccines that is completely off of the trend line. But, you know, I was classically trained at McGill University, and I, I believed that a great deal of cancer was due to genetic, you know, genetic mutations and and some of them sporadic, some of them, you know, familial and, because it was interesting in the last decade or so, you know, there have been more and more mutations discovered that are, you know, believed to be driving certain cancers, whether it's lung cancers or colon cancers and so on.
 
00:09:00:37 - 00:09:24:05
William Makis, M.D.
You see more and more genetic testing in cancer. And so you see sort of less attention paid to to environmental factors and certainly no attention paid to metabolic factors, for example. So, you know, I was in that camp as well. I believed a lot of this was genetic. And it was just, you know, luck of the draw, that you were unlucky to, you know, to pick up mutations and so on.
 
00:09:24:10 - 00:09:50:31
William Makis, M.D.
But I really did not pay attention to the, to the metabolic aspect, myself. And so I have kind of undergone a transformation, in my thinking towards cancer and certainly looking at things like repurposed drugs to treat cancers, that that is a new thing for me, as well. And it's really, I think, sort of a new, new area.
 
00:09:50:35 - 00:10:00:35
William Makis, M.D.
And it's been brought on by the pandemic. I think the pandemic has forced a lot of doctors to reevaluate what they believed and what they had been trained in.
 
00:10:00:40 - 00:10:25:02
Dr. Paul
Yeah. You used, a word suggesting past tense. I believed past tense. I, you know, they put so much money into trying to make everything genetic based. And, I think for, for our audience, I want to make the distinction. And you can help with this because you're. This is your background between hard wired genetics and epigenetics.
 
00:10:25:16 - 00:10:51:11
Dr. Paul
So epigenetics, my understanding is that's how the environment interacts with our genes, if you will, turning things on and off and really making changes that are positive or negative rather than it being a hardwired, you know, chromosomal, what most people think of as genetic, there's nothing I can do about it. When it's epigenetic. There's everything you can do about it right, exactly.
 
00:10:51:11 - 00:11:12:37
William Makis, M.D.
And so, you know, this is where where we get a lot of the, you know, a lot of the excuses right now that are being used for why, there's such an explosion of cancers, you know, in young people. And we get this focus on, well, it's it's our diet, too, you know, it's it's bad diet and it's seed oils and, you know, it's environmental exposure.
 
00:11:12:37 - 00:11:36:24
William Makis, M.D.
And I'm sure at some point, you know, climate change is going to factor into this one way or not or another. But that's, you know, I mean, that's that's what you're talking about when you're talking about, you know, the epigenetic, the the environmental effect. And in the past, obviously, the big, you know, environmental factors or things like asbestos exposure or, you know, smoking, for example.
 
00:11:36:24 - 00:11:48:01
William Makis, M.D.
I mean, I mean, that's still that's still a big one. But yeah, I mean, that's different from, you know, mutations, for example, that you inherit from, from your parents.
 
00:11:48:06 - 00:12:18:14
Dr. Paul
Okay. Let's now jump into Covid. I think, the last five years have woken a lot of people up. There's something different. I'm really interested in your perspective. Give based on the fact that, you know, we had this pandemic and they rolled out a so-called vaccine, the entire world. And I think the effects of that have been horrendous.
 
00:12:18:19 - 00:12:30:01
Dr. Paul
But I'm interested in your analysis of it as an immunologist, as an oncologist. What's going on? And yeah, let's start there. And then what? What should we do?
 
00:12:30:06 - 00:13:15:06
William Makis, M.D.
You know, honestly, when when I heard that, the vaccines that they were rolling out were genetic based that, you know, it was it was it was mRNA packaged inside a lipid nanoparticle. I mean, to me, that just screened red flags. And, you know, I was lucky that in that I had vaguely come across, this technology, sort of in my cancer research as, as I had been doing a lot of publishing and targeted therapy, I'd come across lipid nanoparticles, and there was a lot of research being done around, you know, using lipid nanoparticles in, in oncology and using it as a delivery mechanism, as a delivery mechanism, mainly for chemotherapy.
 
00:13:15:06 - 00:13:44:53
William Makis, M.D.
And and it was just the technology that didn't work that caused all kinds of problems, you know, all kinds of immune reactions and problems and delivery where it I mean, these things effectively went everywhere. I know there's a lot of effort being put into figuring out how to deliver the payload where you wanted it, and certainly when we're talking about, treating cancer, you want the the payload delivered directly to the tumor.
 
00:13:44:53 - 00:14:03:47
William Makis, M.D.
You don't want it going to healthy tissues. You don't want it going to places where it's going to cause problems. And so that for me was a huge red flag that they were using, lipid nanoparticles. I mean, that was just that was for me that I said, no, I said, I said, I am not taking anything that's got a lipid nanoparticles in it.
 
00:14:03:47 - 00:14:33:35
William Makis, M.D.
You know, I told my wife, I said, we're not participating in this bizarre experiment. And, you know, it was the same thing with the genetics, the genetic component of it. I'd never seen mRNA used successfully. And so I really question that. I question this technology. And I knew I wasn't, you know, that far disconnected from, you know, medicine and, and medical developments that they had come up with something, you know, revolutionary that suddenly they could deliver it exactly where they wanted it.
 
00:14:33:35 - 00:14:45:05
William Makis, M.D.
It would stay in the arm, and that it would, you know, do that the mRNA would do what? You know, they thought it would do. Yeah. But for me, it was just huge red flags all around.
 
00:14:45:10 - 00:15:09:11
Dr. Paul
How how is it? Let's jump back to cancer and and and delve into pediatric cancers a little bit. How is it that the lipid nanoparticle carrier of, you know, the mRNA spike or whatever it is that happened right, with this Covid shot? How is it causing cancer? Do you think if if indeed it is maybe, maybe first answer that question.
 
00:15:09:11 - 00:15:21:37
Dr. Paul
Is it are we having more cancer as a result of Covid, the illness or Covid, the shots? And if so, why? You know, as an immunologist and a cancer doctor, can you explain it so we can understand why?
 
00:15:21:42 - 00:15:46:45
William Makis, M.D.
You know, I, I do believe that, the vast majority of the unexplained cancers or the cancers beyond and the, the expected trend line, are due to the shot and not Covid 19, although we may discover that there is a very, very minor contribution of Covid 19, certainly. I haven't seen that signal in any of the data that I've seen.
 
00:15:46:54 - 00:16:14:02
William Makis, M.D.
I haven't seen any of that signal in 2020. There may be a very, very minor contribution from Covid 19 itself, maybe in very sort of severe cases of chronic cases of Covid 19. I believe it's the vaccines and I've been, you know, raising the alarm for the last two years about this. And I really want to give acknowledgment to Doctor Ryan Cole, who I would say, you know, drew attention to this very early on.
 
00:16:14:07 - 00:16:38:27
William Makis, M.D.
Even Doctor Charles half had had drawn attention to this as well. There's something going on, in people who've had the Covid 19 vaccines, these cancers, are they're extremely aggressive and their behavior is is completely unlike anything I have. I've seen before. And so, you know, we come to this term turbo cancer that, you know, some people think is very an appropriate term and an appropriate description.
 
00:16:38:32 - 00:17:00:58
William Makis, M.D.
It's not a great medical term. You, you know, use terms like turbo in medicine. Right. Turbo cancer, you know, it makes you not take it seriously. And yet it's a term that stuck and it has stuck for a reason. And it's because these cancers are just unbelievably aggressive and unbelievably rapid. The just the progression is, is unbelievable.
 
00:17:00:58 - 00:17:39:03
William Makis, M.D.
And we see them really showing up at stage four. We're not picking up turbo cancers at stage one or stage two. We're picking them up only at stage four. And this is where I think really all the doctors should be seeing this. Anyone who has any kind of medical training, medical background should be seeing this by now, that when you have 20 year olds and 30 year olds that are presenting with stage four cancers, and there's no family history of cancer and there's no environmental risk factors, and yet they're diagnosed with stage four, whether it's breast cancer, colon cancer, lung cancer, they're diagnosed that stage four and they're dead in six months.
 
00:17:39:08 - 00:17:56:50
William Makis, M.D.
I'm sorry there's something wrong with that. And this isn't 1 or 2 cases where someone got an unfortunate, you know, batch or, you know, they might have gotten a contaminated dose of a vaccine or what have you. Like this is thousands of people at this point, right. And it's just not something you can ignore.
 
00:17:56:55 - 00:18:12:25
Dr. Paul
So this is where I'm curious if you have any sort of because of your immunology background. I mean, I think of the immune system as the that system that keeps us from getting into serious infections, but it's also surveillance to prevent cancer.
 
00:18:12:29 - 00:18:12:49
William Makis, M.D.
Yeah.
 
00:18:12:56 - 00:18:19:35
Dr. Paul
So something has happened to our immune systems, I suspect you know what that might be. Or do you have some ideas, thoughts.
 
00:18:19:40 - 00:18:45:28
William Makis, M.D.
You know, there's there's a lot of theories. I have some ideas as well. And there have been some really good, papers published that, our hypothesis papers that that really put forward hypotheses on how these cancers may be coming about. And, I'll give you sort of a very kind of a simplistic view. There are components of the vaccine that are problematic.
 
00:18:45:33 - 00:19:06:35
William Makis, M.D.
Each of the component of the vaccine is problematic when it comes to cancer. And the lipid nanoparticle, to me is a big one. And it's not what people might expect. People might expect. Well, you know, it's the spike protein and it damages p53 tumor suppressor or interacts with tumor suppressors or damages, you know, DNA replication.
 
00:19:06:40 - 00:19:34:40
William Makis, M.D.
Certainly the spike protein is very, very problematic because it's a highly inflammatory protein and causes problems in local tissues. But it starts really with the lipid nanoparticle. If this so-called vaccine, which is not a vaccine by any sort of definition, if it had stayed in the arm as we were promised, and it was a few particles instead of, you know, trillions of particles, I think we would have a very different situation.
 
00:19:34:40 - 00:20:00:08
William Makis, M.D.
We wouldn't have the problems that we're seeing, whether it's the cardiac problems, neurological or autoimmune. And we probably wouldn't have any cancer if it stayed in the arm. The problem is the lipid. There's nothing about the lipid nanoparticle that allows sort of localization to the to the injection site. It's it's from the bio distribution studies. We know that these lipid nanoparticles, the vast majority of them end up in the bloodstream.
 
00:20:00:13 - 00:20:22:22
William Makis, M.D.
And then they get carried all over the body. And I think that's why we see such a wide variety of of vaccine injuries in various systems, whether it's the cardiovascular, neurological, it crosses the blood brain barrier. Of course, pregnant women are having all kinds of problems with miscarriages, stillbirths and so on because it crosses the placenta and then they get picked up by the hip hop abilities system.
 
00:20:22:22 - 00:20:42:49
William Makis, M.D.
There's a portability clearance of lipid nanoparticles, and then we end up with all kinds of problems in the gallbladder, pancreas and the colon. We know that it ends up in the breast milk, for example, as well. And so the lipid nanoparticle is a problem as a, as a, as a delivery mechanism for a vaccine. It ends up in the systemic circulation.
 
00:20:42:58 - 00:21:07:04
William Makis, M.D.
And I think that is one of the key reasons why we are seeing cancers. We are seeing delivery of of a payload to places in the body that that should not see genetic material, whether that genetic material is already modified, RNA, whether it's DNA, plasmids, DNA fragments and RNA fragments and we know it's a huge mess, then flip it nanoparticles.
 
00:21:07:04 - 00:21:31:13
William Makis, M.D.
We know that from Kevin Cronin's work with the discovery of all the DNA contamination. And so on. So I think we have to look at the lipid nanoparticle. That's where the problem starts. As you get delivery of this genetic payload to the brain. And we see extremely aggressive brain cancers, it gets delivered to the bone marrow. And we see, you know, very aggressive, blood cancers like leukemias, multiple myeloma.
 
00:21:31:18 - 00:21:51:20
William Makis, M.D.
We see extremely aggressive breast cancers. And we know it ends up in the breast. Not because we've seen them RNA discovered in the in in breast milk. So we know it goes to the breast. The hepatic biliary system we see extremely aggressive liver cancers. Cholangiocarcinoma as in 20 year olds we've never seen cholangiocarcinoma. So this is a disease.
 
00:21:51:33 - 00:21:53:29
William Makis, M.D.
This is a cancer of 70 year old.
 
00:21:53:34 - 00:21:56:07
Dr. Paul
Yeah I've never heard of it. I'm a pediatrician.
 
00:21:56:12 - 00:22:17:09
William Makis, M.D.
At 20 year olds are showing up with stage four cholangiocarcinoma. And yet we know that lipid nanoparticles are picked up in the hepatic biliary system because of the size of the nanoparticles 60 to 100 nanometers. And we see pancreatic cancer. So the entire amount of biliary tree pancreatic cancers, gall bladder cancers, and of course, stage four colon cancers, which are exploding as well.
 
00:22:17:14 - 00:22:41:49
William Makis, M.D.
So I believe the systemic distribution of the of the lipid nanoparticle is a huge problem and is a big factor. And then you have the impact on the immune system. And we know that the immune systems of people who have had the Covid 19 vaccines are dramatically impacted. We know that from the Cleveland Clinic study, which had shown that the more shots you have, the more likely you are to get Covid 19.
 
00:22:41:53 - 00:23:05:40
William Makis, M.D.
Now, it's difficult to quantify what I call damage to the immune system. The vaccinated, they're always getting sick, so they're always they always seem sicker than people who are unvaccinated. And they're always taking time off work. We see this in workplace absenteeism of the vaccinated, for example. Yeah, there's there's there's impact to the immune system. We see all kinds of autoimmune issues, autoimmune diseases.
 
00:23:05:44 - 00:23:32:16
William Makis, M.D.
And I think once you damage the immune system, you know, we're seeing people develop infections that are life threatening. That shouldn't be. We see people dying of strep throat. We see a lot of sepsis cases, people dying of sepsis, young, healthy people, you know, they drop a minor infection and suddenly they're in the ICU and and, you know, they're developing septic shock, and they might have to have their legs and arms amputated.
 
00:23:32:16 - 00:23:52:04
William Makis, M.D.
We've seen a lot of those horrific cases or they just die of sepsis. A young, healthy person dies of sepsis. Young, healthy child dying of strep throat, for example. You know, at unprecedented rate. So we know the immune system is damaged once you damage the immune system, I think then you get into the area of cancer surveillance is impaired.
 
00:23:52:09 - 00:23:58:58
William Makis, M.D.
And if you don't have a properly functioning immune system, you can get some of these runaway cancers. These terrible cancers?
 
00:23:59:08 - 00:24:01:33
Dr. Paul
Yeah. Do you have kids?
 
00:24:01:38 - 00:24:02:32
William Makis, M.D.
Yes.
 
00:24:02:37 - 00:24:03:53
Dr. Paul
What are their ages?
 
00:24:03:58 - 00:24:10:17
William Makis, M.D.
14 and 12. And they're really excited, to go trick or treating for.
 
00:24:10:22 - 00:24:46:38
Dr. Paul
Okay. Yeah. That's the age where you can haul in some candy that'll that'll be good for you. Their immune system. Wow. So I'm just curious. And you don't have to answer because it's your family's private medical data. But, like, I vaccinated my kids. I didn't know any different at the time. Yeah. And looking back and knowing what I know now, I wouldn't honestly, I'm wondering if if you've had any sort of, awakening about the vaccines in general and then we can talk about Covid vaccines, of course, or so-called vaccines.
 
00:24:46:43 - 00:25:03:37
William Makis, M.D.
You know, that's been a tough journey for me and know and I'm not, you know, I'm not afraid to admit, I had my, you know, kids initially vaccinated with, you know, with the childhood vaccine schedule. I was vaccinated with the childhood vaccines because you and of course, as, as a, as a as a refugee, I had to take a lot of shots over again.
 
00:25:03:37 - 00:25:23:30
William Makis, M.D.
You know, when I went to medical school, I had to take some. Yes. Multiple times. And I actually even have the H1n1 and, swine flu vaccine. That was we had an outbreak of H1n1 back in 2009, and we had, you know, sort of an experimental vaccine at the time. And I was a medical resident and I and we were just forced to take it.
 
00:25:23:30 - 00:25:43:15
William Makis, M.D.
At the time, I knew that there were problems with the HPV vaccine Gardasil, and I'd heard about some of the neurological side effects and so on. And that was where I started to hesitate a little bit in terms of just believing everything about vaccines. You don't get that any kind of sort of examination of vaccines in medical school.
 
00:25:43:20 - 00:26:03:46
William Makis, M.D.
Certainly at McGill University, medical school, we didn't really question vaccines or examine them. We really didn't spend much time learning about vaccines. So for me, it started with HPV. And then of course, with Covid 19 hit. And when I realized they were using this bizarre new technology, I told my family, absolutely not. We're not getting these Covid vaccines at all.
 
00:26:03:51 - 00:26:38:18
William Makis, M.D.
Like, let's not even think about it. And there was no point to me, but I didn't know how how bad they were going to be. I didn't realize, you know, just how horrific the side effect profile was going to be. And when when I look back on my posts back in 2021, I start talking about the the problems, the immune problems that I was seeing, the failure of the vaccines that the need for the booster shots, and the fact that in Israel, you know, they roll out the booster shots and then suddenly they become the capital of the world for Covid infections and realizing, okay, there's something very wrong there.
 
00:26:38:23 - 00:27:02:44
William Makis, M.D.
Then I noticed that my Canadian physician colleagues started dying in their sleep after they took the booster shot. And that was a huge awakening for me, because at the time, I wasn't really paying that much attention to the reporting system, you know, and I, I, you know, started seeing, you know, athletes collapsing and so on. But it was really when my colleagues just started dying at a young age, right after taking the booster shots.
 
00:27:02:44 - 00:27:22:13
William Makis, M.D.
To me, that was, you know, that was the beginning of a big awakening. And and as I looked into the various reporting system more because as, as a Canadian, you know, you don't really use where's that, you know, that much? I had never really used it in my career. I never really looked at it as I dug into more and did my own research.
 
00:27:22:18 - 00:27:42:59
William Makis, M.D.
I think what I kept finding was just absolutely horrible. And I've done a complete 180 in terms of the childhood vaccine schedule myself. So we've stopped, we've stopped everything, and we've stopped all the other childhood vaccines. Yeah, but it's not. There hasn't been an easy. It hasn't been an easy road to get there.
 
00:27:43:04 - 00:27:59:05
Dr. Paul
You know, we were we were taught that this was the most important thing we should do to protect children's health. And so I, I that was my training just like yours. And we never were informed about what was in the vaccines, any of the side effects. It was just that safe and effective mantra.
 
00:27:59:10 - 00:28:13:40
William Makis, M.D.
And looking back, you know, and and I just I just want to mention because then I look back and I see you know, my kids have dealt with now fortunately they you know, you know, I don't believe they were vaccine injured by their childhood vaccines. But, you know, I look back and I say, well, you know, there's a little bit of asthma here.
 
00:28:13:45 - 00:28:43:46
William Makis, M.D.
There's a little bit of, you know, eczema that, you know, there were some recurrent infections and so on. And that really makes me now wonder because, yeah, looking at, you know, the work that Children's Health Defense has done, and looking at, for example, how just a comparison of, of, of how vaccinated kids do compared to unvaccinated kids and the fact that, you know, there's all these sort of chronic, chronic conditions or chronic infections that seem to afflict vaccinated children more.
 
00:28:43:51 - 00:28:48:10
William Makis, M.D.
And now I think back and realize maybe some of this was actually vaccine induced.
 
00:28:48:15 - 00:29:16:02
Dr. Paul
Yeah, I like to use the term vaccine affected as opposed to vaccine injury. Some injuries are clear, right? You take a vaccine, you're dead. That's a very severe injury. But you're absolutely right. Asthma, eczema all the, allergy components are definitely triggered by vaccines. And, you can probably explain the immunology, but we also have the neurodevelopmental issues from ADHD, autism, learning disabilities.
 
00:29:16:07 - 00:29:40:37
Dr. Paul
They're much higher in the vaccinated compared to invest. So, that's another whole topic, though, to wrap this one up, because unfortunately, we're ran out of time and we I want let you have the last word to parents about what you think parents should do to minimize the chances of their child or children getting cancer.
 
00:29:40:41 - 00:30:09:29
William Makis, M.D.
Getting cancer. Well, you know, looking at, you know, unfortunately, we're we're in this era of, of these genetic injections. And again, I hesitate to call them vaccines because they really aren't vaccines. They're not they don't seem to be providing any kind of protection. And the risk benefit, ratio, it just weighs the risk is, is just simply unacceptable.
 
00:30:09:30 - 00:30:29:32
William Makis, M.D.
And and when the these, Covid 19 vaccines, it was Pfizer and Moderna when they were being rolled out in children. I was strongly against it. I was worried about the impact to children's immune systems. And I warned parents about it. This was, you know, kids 5 to 11 years old. This was just being rolled out in Canada.
 
00:30:29:32 - 00:31:04:43
William Makis, M.D.
And I was I was suspended, I was censored by Twitter. My Twitter account was suspended, and I, and I basically lost any sort of social media, you know, access, an exposure that I had. And I'm starting to see I'm starting to see some really concerning signs, among vaccinated kids. And where I'm really seeing an explosion of cancers is kids in their late teens, you know, 17, 18, 19, as they were forced to take Covid vaccines by their universities.
 
00:31:04:56 - 00:31:32:36
William Makis, M.D.
And a lot of universities still have vaccine mandates, which, which would end the the vaccine mandates implemented by universities and colleges, I believe, was a crime. I believe it was a crime against these kids because I just saw an explosion of lymphomas, sarcomas, an all kinds of horrific sarcomas, including some of the really rare ones like angio sarcomas, rhabdomyosarcoma.
 
00:31:32:41 - 00:31:58:59
William Makis, M.D.
And of course, you've got, you know, the osteosarcoma, the Ewing sarcoma. This is a serious problem. These are extremely aggressive cancers that, you know, kids and young adults are dealing with now. And my advice to parents is avoid these injections at all costs. Avoid them because there's going to be a continued push, to get, you know, there's been a continued push with booster shots, Covid 19 booster shots.
 
00:31:58:59 - 00:32:24:15
William Makis, M.D.
And of course, they're looking at introducing other mRNA vaccines, especially when it comes to influenza, RSV, CMV and so on. You have to avoid these genetic injections for your kids. But really, I mean, for, for for everyone, I see zero benefit, for anybody. And then you have to be very, very watchful of kids who have had these vaccines.
 
00:32:24:15 - 00:32:52:31
William Makis, M.D.
Don't ignore mild signs that something is wrong because these cancers sneak up on you. Like I said, they're often being diagnosed at stage three, stage four, at a very late stage. Then they become extremely difficult to deal with. I've started seeing cancer patients, and I actually have some kids as well. Now that I'm seeing as well. And, and, you know, once you're dealing with stage four cancers and most of my patients are stage four, they are extremely difficult to deal with.
 
00:32:52:36 - 00:33:12:48
Dr. Paul
Very good point. Well, thank you for that summary. I'm going to have you back on the show to do a deep dive into mRNA technology, because I think you're absolutely right. That is something we need to avoid. It's it's just plain not safe. So we'll cover that. But folks, whatever you do, no matter what it takes, do not take the Covid jab.
 
00:33:12:53 - 00:33:35:09
Dr. Paul
At this point it's crystal clear. It is so, so dangerous. And you have to protect your children. It gets tough when they're making their own decisions and they're young adults. But, you know, if you're, in Canada, are people allowed to go to certain states where they may have exemptions or are there no exemptions? The colleges across the country are just saying you have to do it.
 
00:33:35:14 - 00:33:54:22
William Makis, M.D.
Honestly. There are no exemptions. They they've gotten extremely aggressive to the point where, even if you have any kind of medical history of, of, you know, any kind of reactions and so on, they say, well, you have to, you know, you have to take the first shot and then, you know, if you have a sort of a near-death experience, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll think about giving it an exemption.
 
00:33:54:22 - 00:33:59:38
William Makis, M.D.
But, it's been it's been just absolutely atrocious in terms of that system.
 
00:33:59:43 - 00:34:05:27
Dr. Paul
Yeah. If that system stays in place when your kids get to college age, what are you going to do?
 
00:34:05:32 - 00:34:39:17
William Makis, M.D.
You know, I'm I'm actually strongly considering leaving the country and that's, you know, it's one of the reasons actually was that if these if these colleges and universities and it's, it's very bad and it's worse in Canada than, than it has been in the United States. But if, if, if these mandates going to continue or the vaccine mandates come back, either my kids are not going to go to university or we're simply going to leave the country and go live in a place where this is simply not, forced on on kids and on young people because I think it's extremely dangerous.
 
00:34:39:22 - 00:34:42:41
William Makis, M.D.
Yeah. And I'm willing to leave the country to protect my kids.
 
00:34:42:46 - 00:35:02:55
Dr. Paul
Perfect. Doctor. Marcus, thank you. And that example you just gave is what I tell parents. You've got to think that critically and be that sincere about protecting your children. You do whatever it takes, right? As parents, that's what we're called to do, is to protect our kids. And if you have to, I mean, you're talking about picking up and leaving the country.
 
00:35:02:55 - 00:35:14:43
Dr. Paul
That's huge. But you'll do it because, you know, the consequences of taking those jabs are just enormous and ongoing. You can't get that stuff out of your body.
 
00:35:14:57 - 00:35:24:40
William Makis, M.D.
No. Right. You're right. Now, at least we're at we're at a point where there's no fix. There's no easy or simple fix. Yeah. To the damage done by these, by these shots.
 
00:35:24:54 - 00:35:29:36
Dr. Paul
Yeah. Well thanks again, doctor Marcus, I really appreciate having you on the show.
 
00:35:29:41 - 00:35:31:31
William Makis, M.D.
Thank you very much. I appreciate it, folks.
 
00:35:31:31 - 00:35:48:56
Dr. Paul
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