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With the Wind with Dr. Paul - Show 173: Pediatric Perspectives: Parents' Guide to the First Year with Kelly Sutton, M.D.
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• Dr. Paul: 52.95%
• Kelly Sutton, M.D.: 47.05%

 
 
00:00:40:28 - 00:01:05:39
Dr. Paul
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00:01:05:53 - 00:01:16:16
Dr. Paul
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00:01:35:06 - 00:01:58:04
Dr. Paul
Good morning. PhD. Welcome to Pediatric Perspectives, where we are looking at children's health challenges from a different perspective, one that includes critical thinking and is not afraid to give you the honest truth. I'm your host, Doctor Paul, and I'm happy and honored and thrilled to welcome our guest, Doctor Kelly Sutton. Hi, Kelly. How are you?
 
00:01:58:09 - 00:02:01:51
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
I'm well. Paul. Thank you for having me. It's pleasure to see you.
 
00:02:01:56 - 00:02:28:16
Dr. Paul
It's always a pleasure to see you and have you on the show. Folks, if you don't know Doctor Sutton, she has been a, family practice physician with the expertise in pediatrics before family practice was even a specialty. You went to medical school, like, over a decade before I did. And you bring to the table 50 years plus of working as a family practice doctor, working with kids, working with moms.
 
00:02:28:21 - 00:02:34:38
Dr. Paul
I don't know that I've ever asked you this. Were you the type of family practitioner who also delivered babies?
 
00:02:34:43 - 00:02:42:17
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
I did not. No. It was really pediatrics and internal medicine. I didn't do surgery. I didn't do ObGyn.
 
00:02:42:22 - 00:02:42:54
Dr. Paul
Gotcha.
 
00:02:42:55 - 00:02:44:43
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
As a specialty work.
 
00:02:44:48 - 00:03:04:28
Dr. Paul
Yeah. So I remember when I was in medical school, you know, 40 years ago, I thought family practitioners had to be the smartest people on earth because you had to know a lot about a lot of things. And so when I found pediatric and I loved kids like, oh, I'll just stick with this, it's enough for me.
 
00:03:04:32 - 00:03:26:34
Dr. Paul
What we're going to cover today a little bit is really do a deep dive into infancy children's Health Defense has a parent's Guide to Healthy Children, and in chapter four of that book they talk about therapeutic touch, infant gut microbiome, sleep, all sorts of stuff. So I thought maybe we would just kind of narrow our focus a little bit on to, infancy.
 
00:03:26:34 - 00:03:50:23
Dr. Paul
Although of course, I'm happy to have you start with pregnancy because that seems to be a pretty important, precursor to becoming an infant. Yes. Tell me a little bit about your experience and philosophy when it comes to health and pregnancy and infancy. Maybe give us the global picture, and then we can kind of also dive into some specifics.
 
00:03:50:28 - 00:04:21:46
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
Well, I really appreciated the Maps conference that brought the preconception care as a specialty aspect of pregnancy care that the Canadian physicians. I think the last name is Jean-Louis. Jean-Louis, have been researching and bringing forward and pointed out that we're in such a time of toxins that this really needs to be before conception happens and evaluation of what's the mothers and fathers health.
 
00:04:21:51 - 00:05:12:47
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
So we know what's the health of the the egg and the sperm and the environment that the baby will grow in? I think that's just enormous common sense, and I'm delighted to see that in the CD booklet. And I think pregnancy has this whole remarkable aspect about it, that it's beyond us. It just happens like a miracle that the baby finds the parents, the parents receive the baby, and the world is changed by this miraculous event of a new child and that the body so, artistically and in such a complex way, integrates this event of another being growing inside a mother's body and the mother not rejecting it, but accepting it until the time
 
00:05:12:47 - 00:05:41:47
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
of delivery. And then delivery happens, and then the breast milk is attuned to exactly the baby's needs. And I was thrilled to hear Suzanne Humphrey's, go through the make up of the breast milk and how the antibodies are present that fight Haemophilus influenzae type b, even though there hasn't been an exposure to that germ nature. Put that in and the microbiome is similar.
 
00:05:41:52 - 00:06:10:22
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
When the baby comes out of the vaginal canal, the entire baby outside and in because the baby swallows some vaginal secretions, is colonized with the lactobacilli in the mother's birth canal. And this forms the foundation of self-defense in the immune sense because the immune system is still, immature and combines with the breast milk to protect the baby in this early period.
 
00:06:10:27 - 00:06:53:38
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
So it's like this remarkable picture that is just beyond constructing. If we were making Legos into conception, pregnancy, birth, breastfeeding, I don't know how we could do it, but it's given to us. It's there. And so that's the way that we, as professional health care providers want to address things, recognizing the totality and complexity and artistry of what we're dealing with, and be a little bit in awe and not poke it, but touch it, because I think medicine has lost a little bit of subtlety.
 
00:06:53:43 - 00:07:22:20
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
It's not very nuanced. It tends to just intervene, period, and not consider the ripple effect. And it's probably a result of our reductionist science, where we only look at one molecule or one chemical reaction at a time and not the context. The bigger picture. Someone said it's the difference between the microscope and the microscope, and we're very microscopic in our understanding in medicine today.
 
00:07:22:25 - 00:07:49:09
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
So when it comes to the clinical side, we want to recognize that that's limited, that the microscope is just the microscope. And there's a bigger picture. I've learned from listening to patients because patients told me things I'd never heard in medical school that were of enormous benefit, whether it was about the rhythm of a baby's schedule, warmth, and the importance of protecting the child's warmth.
 
00:07:49:09 - 00:08:17:41
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
Because the skin is such a vast surface area in proportion to the body volume, that we really want warm extremities and to feel fingers. Toes is warm is the warmest part of the body. And even though it's a beautiful thing to see a picture of a nude baby, that's not the healthiest thing for the baby. Because the room is 20 degrees cooler than the baby's body temperature, so the baby is giving away his or her body heat into the room.
 
00:08:17:41 - 00:08:42:20
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
If it's not clothed, and ideally with a breathable fabric like cotton or linen or wool, because some of the synthetics trap the heat and that can actually overheat the baby. So there's many simple things, and you can't do warmth, or you can't warm up a baby's fingers with a pill. You have to do it with how you look at the baby, handle the baby, and clothe the baby.
 
00:08:42:20 - 00:08:59:27
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
So that's parenting or nursing. If the baby's in a hospital, and it's just one of those basic things that we look at and realize that we have to bring in. I don't know if you've had similar experiences or.
 
00:08:59:32 - 00:09:21:42
Dr. Paul
Oh my goodness. You started off with basically outlining the miracle that life is right and and how incredibly special that time is. I've had my first child was adopted at birth, so I was there attending that birth. And, you know, they handed that baby off to me and that was going to be my daughter. And then I had three biological sons.
 
00:09:21:42 - 00:09:59:23
Dr. Paul
And yes, each and every pregnancy is is a special, miraculous thing. I'm so glad you brought up the issue of preconception. If you're watching and you're going to have children in the future, now is the time to detox your your life. I mean, eat organic, get the pesticides out of your world, drink filtered water, get spiritually connected, get connected emotionally with with a community that supports you because all of that will allow you to love that new life that's forming within you and nurture it in in just the very ways we're intended to do so.
 
00:09:59:28 - 00:10:21:13
Dr. Paul
And interestingly enough, Kelly, I think you and I share a similar view on the power of the natural immune system. You were basically outlining how that develops with breast milk and with passage through the birth canal. So if you happen to have a C-section, there's a concept called seeding. And I'd be interested if you if you agree with this concept.
 
00:10:21:13 - 00:10:44:19
Dr. Paul
But basically, unless mom's birth canal is somehow not healthy, you can take vaginal secretions and put them all over your baby's mouth and face and nose. The hospital. Some hospitals allow this. Some hospitals frown on it. But it's a it's at least a partial way of getting some of that good bacteria into your newborn, because C-sections are sterile.
 
00:10:44:19 - 00:11:06:17
Dr. Paul
Procedure. You know, the babies just cut out. They miss out on that. You know, being squeezed through the birth canal process. But yes. Oh, such wonderful things that happen to to bring a child into the world. And don't forget that skin time. You you you brought it up in such a visual way. You're right. A naked baby, unclothed is losing heat, losing energy.
 
00:11:06:17 - 00:11:31:44
Dr. Paul
But if they're tucked up, you know, skin to skin with mom or dad, as that CD book, Parents Guide to Healthy Children points out, this is how it's supposed to be. So wonderful start. So now we've got this newborn, and we've got to feed them. Yeah. You mentioned breast milk, and, I can't second that enough.
 
00:11:31:49 - 00:11:51:50
Dr. Paul
I it's so difficult to be successful these days. I think so many babies have tongue ties. The support systems for moms. Maybe their mothers didn't breastfeed. What tips do you have from your 50 years of doing this to to help support moms who are trying to get that breastfeeding to work?
 
00:11:51:55 - 00:12:25:51
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
Well, skin to skin time is one of the strongest stimulations for mom to be able to produce milk, and she needs to be hydrated and she needs to slow down. I think we end up as women no longer focusing on the female role of motherhood and pregnancy and breastfeeding. And so we have another responsibility and I and we don't probably through the parasympathetic setting nervous system, create breast milk as easily.
 
00:12:25:56 - 00:12:52:37
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
I think there has been good support from the Leadership League to learn breastfeeding, and also to have, the gadget. I forget the name of it, but it lets you use additional formula while the little tube comes to the nipple and the baby gives stimulation to the mother's breast. But still is fed even though the mother doesn't have enough milk yet.
 
00:12:52:41 - 00:13:18:34
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
And, there are some chemical ways to make breast milk happen, but I'm not sure that those are really in the child's best interest. So some of the breastfeeding issues would happen more in the hands of the, hospital at the time of birth and in my practice. And I'm not fully versed in all of those trips. You may have more to add.
 
00:13:18:38 - 00:13:39:41
Dr. Paul
So you brought up a very important point. Most or at least a large percentage of the mom baby units that fail at breastfeeding. Those mothers had to go back, go to back to work early, and the pressure of having to do that. And I understand if you're watching well, I have to go back to work. I get it.
 
00:13:39:46 - 00:14:03:03
Dr. Paul
We were in the same boat when I was raising kids, and sure enough, we ended up having to use formula because, when you work a lot, it's hard to pump enough. And sometimes pumping just isn't the same as direct nursing. So, partners of breastfeeding moms do every thing in your power to make it possible for mom to breastfeed as often as necessary.
 
00:14:03:08 - 00:14:20:29
Dr. Paul
If there's any way to get that sabbatical or that extra one, 2 or 3 months off at the beginning to get it well established, that's vital. And, I know sometimes grandmas will come into the home and take over all the cleaning and the cooking and just allow mama to be a, you know, nurture breastfeeding. That's your job.
 
00:14:20:34 - 00:14:46:20
Dr. Paul
And that can be super helpful. There are other tools. Since you and I, we're raising kids. They have, I think it's called a Hakka that they while you're nursing one side, you put this thing on the other side and it catches all the stuff that would have been lost. And the pumps have very variable success rates. I mean, they have hospital grade pumps that if if you're really in trouble, rent one for a month and they're quite good.
 
00:14:46:25 - 00:14:54:05
Dr. Paul
So but for those who can't breastfeed, do you have thoughts about formula?
 
00:14:54:10 - 00:15:29:16
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
I have seen a number of different formulas. And I know Western price has a couple of different recipes and I haven't had practical experience with people using those, but I think it's been a sad thing to learn that some of the things that we know are unique to human infant formula, like the amino acid taurine and some of the omega threes are not in American formula, but they do put it in, European formula, but not in American formula.
 
00:15:29:21 - 00:15:41:46
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
So going towards an individual recipe is probably a smart idea. If a person can't I can't recommend individual brands. Maybe there's a good brand now that can be purchased.
 
00:15:41:46 - 00:16:02:54
Dr. Paul
Yeah. I wasn't, I wasn't trying to get a specific brand. I agree with you. The some of the formulas coming out of Europe are, using true organic milk that's not been subjected to hormones. They if you have to buy a commercial formula, there's a couple out of Germany that I think are, at least families in my practice have had good luck with.
 
00:16:02:59 - 00:16:24:22
Dr. Paul
I actually have had many families use the Western price, formulas and here's what you do. Look at the ingredients that are being suggested on Western price. Go to that website and then look at the ingredients in a can of formula and all you have to look at is what they're using to sweeten the formula, the commercial formulas, what what oils are in there.
 
00:16:24:22 - 00:16:45:17
Dr. Paul
I mean, they are putting the grossest, unhealthiest oils into infant formulas that make no sense. Why not start with good ingredients? Well, you can't when you mass produce, which is why if you can just buckle down and make your own in a healthy way, it's very hard to make a safe formula. So I only would use Western price.
 
00:16:45:17 - 00:16:47:17
Dr. Paul
I have no experience with anybody. Okay.
 
00:16:47:22 - 00:16:47:58
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
Yeah.
 
00:16:48:02 - 00:17:08:02
Dr. Paul
And I think those those are good. So. So next, your baby's now an infant and they're hopefully gaining weight if they're not gaining weight. Obviously, I think the first few months of life you need to interact with a health care provider who is going to help you track growth in weight. Right.
 
00:17:08:52 - 00:17:23:41
Dr. Paul
I mean, I imagine you had a scale in your office for weighing infants and, parents who are on their own. You can you can buy an infant scale. Pretty inexpensive. Yeah. And and do that experience.
 
00:17:23:41 - 00:17:49:31
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
Mothers were always, people I would trust if they say, I don't want to come in if they've had babies before, then I have a a sense that they know what they're looking for. And looking at. But, one of the things that was surprising to me was to learn of the work of a pediatrician from Austria or maybe Hungary, Emma Pickler.
 
00:17:49:31 - 00:18:30:19
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
Pickler. And she worked in an orphanage where, she was observing the movement, development of many children. And she made the observation that if a child was left horizontal and able to develop their own use of different planes of movement, like diagonal or vertical, horizontal on their own, and not just propped up in a chair where they don't really have head control, but they're kind of sitting, looking at you, that they actually integrate their neuromuscular development more completely.
 
00:18:30:24 - 00:18:58:33
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
And, she said it often happens in families that the first child is put in what she called containment furniture. First. And so that child doesn't really have the sound, full integration of their neuromuscular system as later children, because the other children are left horizontal, because family is focused on a broader group, not just the one child.
 
00:18:58:38 - 00:19:40:38
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
So the rule that she said, is that a child should not be put in a position that they haven't already tried to get into themselves. So it's amazing to think that through and realize that when the child is horizontal, they're really sensing gravity and what their body is in relation to gravity, and whether there can be a movement in one direction of a smidgeon or a movement in another direction, or a little upward, and what happens and what that feels like, and each of those experiences in relation to gravity is building block towards achieving verticality eventually.
 
00:19:40:43 - 00:20:06:49
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
And we kind of cheat the child of those experiences if we prop them up. And they join us at the table in a highchair or whatever. So that was an eye opener for me. And I think it's valuable to consider, because we have so many different kinds of things to put our babies in. And maybe the really best thing is a nice solid surface that they can work with themselves.
 
00:20:07:02 - 00:20:28:33
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
I will mention a place that does this work in detail, and that is Sophia's Hearth in Keene, New Hampshire. And that early infant movement is a foundation for learning, because how the child learns to move and the neuromuscular integration relates to eventual academic capacity.
 
00:20:28:38 - 00:20:51:52
Dr. Paul
It's interesting that our brains do need to learn cross motor activity, and that's crawling, where you're getting visual input while you're moving both sides of the body on the ground. And that's, I think, floor time was invented to try to solve the problem of our modern society, keeping kids in these walkers and high chairs and poppies and bouncers and you name it.
 
00:20:51:56 - 00:21:12:41
Dr. Paul
But you make a very good point there. I wanted us to touch on sleep. So many parents with infants are confused about the advice they're getting because they're being given conflicting, advice. Pediatricians will say your baby has to be on a firm surface on their back. And, you know, if not, they're going to die of SIDs.
 
00:21:12:46 - 00:21:26:41
Dr. Paul
Right. I have some other thoughts on that, but I wanted to see what you what do you think? Because some parents want to co-sleep. Some people think that's a big mistake. What are your thoughts? Having done this for 50 years?
 
00:21:26:46 - 00:21:55:56
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
Well, I think, a main concern that I have with co-sleeping is it's hard to wean. And the question comes up, how long should I breastfeed if I'm breastfeeding? And if a mother is co-sleeping with the baby. The baby smells the milk, and it's never going to stop. I think the baby gets secure if they are sleeping alone, if they know I can go to sleep on my own and I don't have to have sealing mom or dad right next to me.
 
00:21:56:01 - 00:22:18:32
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
And that's my only survival. So I tend to favor more that there is an independent place of sleeping for the baby's security, and for the parents privacy, and for the freedom of weaning when a person wants to without that attraction of smelling the milk right next door to me in bed. Do you have different thoughts?
 
00:22:18:37 - 00:22:46:24
Dr. Paul
So we differ completely on this one. Okay. But see, it's what you're saying is what I did for my kids that that was what I was taught. And unfortunately, all three of my biological boys are highly anxious, ADHD. And, you know, there is this research that the more you nurture an infant, the more secure they are, as opposed to, you know, having them off on their own, learning to self consult.
 
00:22:46:29 - 00:23:25:27
Dr. Paul
I just think the temperament of an ADHD kid like mine would like, once I had, I wished I had had the bandwidth, I didn't, I needed to sleep so I could get to work, and so did their moms. So we did the cry. It out and you're on your own room and all that stuff. And I see some of these families where they've got, I call them the mama bears, these, these moms who just are so nurturing and given our crazy world with the problems we're having with vaccines, one of the healthiest things you can do to, fight infections is to breastfeed long term.
 
00:23:25:40 - 00:23:46:23
Dr. Paul
I mean, I used to frown at these families that were breastfeeding to three year olds. I mean, my sister breastfed till she was hers. Her daughter was four. But I now know that. Yes, you're right. It makes it hard to wean. And and not very many moms have the bandwidth to be able to, you know, nurse all night and then still function.
 
00:23:46:38 - 00:23:51:37
Dr. Paul
But, there's no harm done to the immune system, that's for sure. With that breast milk.
 
00:23:51:49 - 00:24:13:27
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
I had heard that, if breast milk is always in the stomach, then the child's own, system doesn't meet the antigens because it's already captured by the mother's antibodies. And so after a year, there is value to the child eating dirt or whatever actually meeting. What are the antigens in the outer world.
 
00:24:13:27 - 00:24:13:53
Dr. Paul
That they're.
 
00:24:13:58 - 00:24:20:27
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
Sort of is an improved immune development. It's the breastfeeding has a a closure after a year.
 
00:24:20:32 - 00:24:49:32
Dr. Paul
I agree you need other exposures there. There are families who breastfeed exclusively for a year, I don't think I think breastfeeding longer is okay, but you still gotta be exposed to dirt and other foods and all the other antigens. As you point out. I want to mention SIDs just because I researched it heavily. And it's very interesting. There are six published articles showing SIDs is happening, in the 3 to 7 to ten days after vaccines, not in the other times.
 
00:24:49:32 - 00:25:09:05
Dr. Paul
It's a direct correlation. And so it's gotten to the point, in my experience and in my, you know, when I'm talking with families and coaching, it's, you can co-sleep as long as you're not vaccinating, you know, these these kids who are dying in their sleep are dying after vaccines. They're not I've never heard of a SIDs in an unvaccinated kid.
 
00:25:09:10 - 00:25:10:26
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
Right.
 
00:25:10:31 - 00:25:11:44
Dr. Paul
You have the same degree.
 
00:25:11:48 - 00:25:30:38
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
Yeah I agree yeah. And I remember hearing some pediatrician in New York who had the baby be on a slide slant, and then he said he never had a case of SIDs, whether the child was on the stomach or the back. And he felt that that little bit of a slant made a difference in terms of avoiding SIDs.
 
00:25:30:38 - 00:25:42:40
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
But I think the vaccine is a more fundamental issue because you don't see any cases of SIDs three to 7 to 10 days before the vaccine is planned. It's always, always.
 
00:25:42:40 - 00:25:43:35
Dr. Paul
After.
 
00:25:43:40 - 00:25:56:47
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
Proximal. And I think Japan change the onset date in their vaccine schedule and their SIDs rate dropped when they simply didn't do it. Some vaccines until after age two.
 
00:25:56:52 - 00:26:17:27
Dr. Paul
Yeah, I think I read also, the SIDs rate dropped during the, pandemic because people weren't going in for their vaccines. Yeah. So maybe speak a little bit towards allergies. Kids have so many allergies. What can parents do to maybe minimize the chances their child ends up with allergies?
 
00:26:17:32 - 00:26:39:01
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
I think it really goes back to the microbiome and the thing you described with seeding for C-section children, the use of, probiotic foods. We I was surprised to learn that there's like 3000 different kinds of fermented foods in the world. I thought there was 12, like miso and yogurt and kefir and.
 
00:26:39:06 - 00:26:40:56
Dr. Paul
Yeah, it's there were five.
 
00:26:41:01 - 00:27:11:14
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
Right. Exactly. But whatever we know about, we should be using and there has been a study that those families that use consistently more fermented foods have fewer allergies. So that's kind of the foundational suggestion I have made to families to prevent allergies. Yeah. And then treatment of allergies can be a big issue. Because I don't know that the desensitization is effective and it can be painful.
 
00:27:11:19 - 00:27:42:28
Dr. Paul
Yeah. Allergies are a huge association with vaccines. So if you have a family history of allergies, eczema, asthma, allergic rhinitis, any of the allergies, you might especially want to avoid vaccines, especially in early childhood, early exposure. So it's interesting. I wonder if you've had the same. Yeah. We were taught that we are supposed to avoid things like peanuts and things that are more allergenic until you're much older, right?
 
00:27:42:28 - 00:28:07:20
Dr. Paul
Don't give these foods to infants. And then I remember a study out of Israel, or Europe or both, where, Jewish kids in Israel used teething biscuits that had peanut butter in them. And the Jewish kids in Europe did not. And there were way less allergies in Israel than there were in Europe. Same genetics. So it was like, maybe it's better to give peanuts early.
 
00:28:07:20 - 00:28:17:29
Dr. Paul
And I just read an article this week saying the same thing. It's like they've reinvented the wheel, but we were taught the opposite. Right? So what's your understanding of that?
 
00:28:17:34 - 00:28:40:54
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
Well, I just kind of wait and see what how are things changing? And, it does change. It's probably the question of this sort of sleepy immune system. You can sneak up on it and give it things and it'll accept them going forward. But is there a ripple effect? Is there an outcome from having given that antigen early?
 
00:28:40:54 - 00:28:59:36
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
I don't know, because these are all short term conclusions. No allergies for how long and how the rest of health would be the question about the Israeli kids versus the European kids. Our studies are just designed narrow. Yeah. And so the conclusion we get is narrow.
 
00:28:59:41 - 00:29:19:10
Dr. Paul
Good point. So I wanted to let you have the closing words, your your final wisdom for our audience, focused on, you know, the question of how to raise healthy kids. If you had to summarize it for, for, a new parent or prospective new parents, what are your take home points?
 
00:29:19:14 - 00:29:57:31
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
Trust in the system, because it's a good one. It's a really wise, capable, intelligent, loving system that's designed to survive and to thrive. And we can count on that and then use the cleanest, most wholesome food you can get and have a strong sense of purpose and relationship in life, with humans, with the cosmos, and to do your own research and trust yourself as the decision maker and find connections with other people doing the same thing.
 
00:29:57:31 - 00:30:15:50
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
Because we really need each other now in this huge time of transition in our culture, when things are rocking and in transition one way or in another, if we have connections with other people, that's our basic resource.
 
00:30:15:55 - 00:30:34:11
Dr. Paul
That is beautiful. Kelly, thank you so much for being on the show today. And folks, check out kids book A Parent's Guide to Healthy Children. They cover a lot more than we covered today. We just sort of scratched the surface. And, it's always an honor and a privilege to have you with us.
 
00:30:34:16 - 00:30:36:32
Kelly Sutton, M.D.
Thank you for your work.
 
00:30:36:37 - 00:30:48:26
Dr. Paul
Thanks, Kelly. Folks, I also have another show with the wind at Doctors and science.com. And if you want personal coaching, go to kids First forever.com. Thanks for watching. Look forward to seeing you next week.
 
00:30:53:45 - 00:31:19:39
Dr. Paul
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00:31:19:45 - 00:31:27:01
Dr. Paul
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